On 18 April 2012 13:26, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The group was chartered to also discuss second level protections for the > IOC and RC; it's not entirely clear that with the Board rejection of the > GNSO motion for *additional* protections the group still shouldn't be > discussing second level protections not premised on such additional > protections. > If such an issue is still on the table, it should be in the form of a proper PDP that can better incorporate input from all communities. This was a hastily-assembled reaction to a specific Board request. Its core question has been asked and answered. The very fact that it's not a working group is only the most obvious clue of this effort's ad-hoc nature. Since the Board has explicitly rejected any wording changes to the AG, continued use of a Drafting Team for further work is wholly inappropriate. FWIW, I support its dissolution. I am speaking here because the differences in process enable different levels of engagement of non-GNSO communities. - Evan > In other words, it has not been disbanded by the GNSO Council or its > charter amended. > > I will try to get on the call since no one else seems to be able to, and > will stay on as long as I can. I'd be surprised if the Chair doesn't raise > the Board resolution or the recent GNSO motion that we proposed (and > succeeded in getting through) - he has already forwarded them to the > Drafting Team mailing list. I will ask the question if he does not. > > Cheers > Mary > > > *Mary W S Wong* > *Professor of Law* > *Chair, Graduate IP Programs* > *Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP* > UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH > 03301 USA Email: [log in to unmask] Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: > http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php Selected writings available on > the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: > http://ssrn.com/author=437584>>> > *From: * Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> *To:* < > [log in to unmask]> *Date: * 4/18/2012 12:51 PM *Subject: * Re: > [NCSG-Discuss] [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO > issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) > names discussion group > Yes, I agree that this group must be disbanded. It has become a runaway > train and the board has already rejected its recommendations. Do we need > to propose a motion in the GNSO to end the group? > > Thanks, > Robin > > > > On Apr 18, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Konstantinos Komaitis wrote: > > > Thanks Avri - I won't be attending either this call. Wolfgang is also > representing NCSG in this group but I am equally baffled as to why this > group continues to meet and discuss things that will end up becoming > policy. I think this needs to be challenged somehow! > > > > KK > > > > Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis, > > > > Senior Lecturer, > > Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses > > Director of LLM Information Technology and Telecommunications Law > > University of Strathclyde, > > The Law School, > > Graham Hills building, > > 50 George Street, Glasgow G1 1BA > > UK > > tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306 > > > http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Regulation-isbn9780415477765 > > Selected publications: > http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038 > > Website: www.komaitis.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Avri Doria > > Sent: Τετάρτη, 18 Απριλίου 2012 12:37 μμ > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting > Invitation/GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) > & Red Cross (RC) names discussion group > > > > Hi, > > > > I assume KK is no attending as well given his hew role in life. > > > > Who else from NCSG has been attending. Will we have a voice at this > meeting? > > > > And now that there is an issues report request in the works, why is this > group still meeting? > > > > avri > > > > On 17 Apr 2012, at 23:56, Joy Liddicoat wrote: > > > >> Hi - FYI, but note that I am unable to make this call. > >> Kind regards > >> Joy > >> > >> > >> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto: > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nathalie Peregrine > >> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2012 3:59 a.m. > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Cc: [log in to unmask] > >> Subject: [ntfy-gnso-iocrc-dt] REMINDER: Meeting Invitation/GAC/GNSO > issues related to International Olympic Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) > names discussion group > >> > >> > >> Dear All, > >> > >> The next call for the GAC/GNSO issues related to International Olympic > Committee (IOC) & Red Cross (RC) names discussion groupis scheduled on > Wednesday 18 April 2012 at 1800 UTC. > >> > >> 11:00 PDT, 14:00 EDT, 19:00 London, 20:00 CET > >> > >> Please be aware that some countries have now moved to Daylight Saving > time, not hesitate to follow the link below if you have any doubts: > >> > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=IOCRC&iso=20120418T18&ah=1 > >> > >> > >> The dial-in details are below. 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