Hopefully... But is there a resistance in our community (NCSG) to discuss this? We should not speculate, we should move along, this is just a glitch, even Rolls Royce does dumb things etc, are indications I am wrong in trying to open up the debate? Avri rightly recognizes this is a major event, but that we should wait for more details. I am OK with this, but while waiting we do no harm in thinking of possible scenarios and consequences for which we will be called to position ourselves. --c.a. On 04/19/2012 10:28 AM, Adam Peake wrote: > Doesn't seem much point in speculating, blaming until the facts are > known. Perhaps it was pretty much unforeseeable, just bad luck (like > Airbus' wings crack, Rolls Royce engines blow up…) Or it might have > been the result of dumb decisions. I think given the money involved > --already in ICANN's account from applicants, the money applicants > have spent preparing, business plans, etc-- there won't be a cover-up. > Applicants will want answers and expect they'll nag until the answers > make sense (or they'll go to the courts.) And I'm anyway of the > happy-set who believes ICANN anyway wouldn't cover things up :-) > > Best, > > Adam > > > > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Carlos A. Afonso <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> With due respect for McTim's esprit de corps for what he dismisses as a >> technical problem, my main worry is the pile of legal cases Icann might >> have to confront because of this "simple glitch" (so simple, in fact, >> that has the entire organization running around for a week). >> >> fraternal regards >> >> --c.a. >> >> On 04/18/2012 05:15 PM, Avri Doria wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> And some of us have reflexive protective instinct that seems to indicate no cIr manager can do wrong. >>> >>> At this point there most certainly is something to be seen here. This was not a simple glitch that was fixed in a day. This is a major event that is still ongoing with no end in sight. I do not beleive in judging before the whole story is reveled, but do insist that the whole story be revealed. >>> >>> avri >>> >>> >>> >>> On 18 Apr 2012, at 16:02, McTim wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Do we actually know this? >>>> >>>> of course not, this list just has to reflexively kick ICANN in the >>>> 'nads when they are already on the ground....for me this whole TAS >>>> thing is mountain out of a molehill....nothing to see folks, kindly >>>> move along. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> McTim >>>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >>>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >>>> >>> >