Hi, This is something worth working on. While I was very much against working according to categories in this round, it was largely because I thought the categories were something emergent. I don't think we all could have agreed on the set categories before. But now we can. Or at least can come close. I think that the developing region applications are obviously a category that was not sufficiently included. As we start to think and plan for the next round, I think we could/should consider limiting it to categories, i.a. such as developing regions. I beleive remediating failures in diversity etc should be one of the primary goals of the next round. I expect that this may be a controversial perspective, perhaps even within NCSG, so it is going to take some discussion on: - whether a next round should be constrained across some but not all categories - if so, which categories It might be good to start figuring out if we, as NCSG collectively, or [NCUC, NPOC] separately, have viewpoints on such issues. avri PS: I love the way threads wander and morph in a living list. On 4 Jul 2012, at 09:15, Adam Peake wrote: > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Alex Gakuru <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> Is Africa, really, part of ICANN? the 'reveal' showed that 99.99 per cent of >> new gTLDs were from outside Africa which only managed to submit a palty 0.88 >> per cent of the 1930 applications. As developed economies IP industry and >> brand owners entrench themselves deeper on ICANN, we're wondering, what's >> wrong with this model for Africa? >> > > > Alex, not just Africa, developing countries/region generally. Also > equal lack of applicants from Latin America and Caribbean, and > majority of Asia Pacific. > <http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus> > > Plenty of applications from the Asia Pacific when taken across the > whole region, but only from the developed markets (China and India in > the ICT sector can be classed as developed.) > > Failure of outreach, or just a reflection of economics. NCSG should > talk with the GAC about this. GAC's quite animated, complained to the > board. > > Adam > > > >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Alain Berranger <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Avri, >>> >>> It is clear to me too that NCUC/pre NPOC NCSG is a community of some kind >>> - I just don't quite grasp its essence yet, but what is sure is that I don't >>> yet feel part of it. >>> >>> Looking back to Prague, at no times were any of the 5 NPOC members there >>> made to feel full members of that community. For instance, at your own dot >>> gay event at the sky bar, all NCUC members present were invited, but not a >>> single NPOC member was invited. When NCSG EC had informal gatherings, never >>> once were NPOC members included. That said, NPOC members there did not lack >>> social interaction with other Constituencies. >>> >>> Yes Avri, you and I agree on the need for an NCUC email list for the NCUC >>> community.. Keeping NCSG list for building the new NCSG community made out >>> of both NCUC and NPOC members. >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 3, 2012, Avri Doria wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Sorry to hear that. >>>> It is part of what makes us a community instead of just a SG. >>>> >>>> Would have enjoyed hearing your voice as well. >>>> Though I guess I just did. >>>> >>>> BTW: I still think we need an announce list of the news and only the >>>> news for those members whole don't like all the touchy feely group, aka >>>> unprofessional, participation. I would like the NCSG EC to reconsider its >>>> decision from last year not to create such a list. >>>> >>>> avri >>>> >>>> On 3 Jul 2012, at 11:13, Michael Carson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Whoever is in charge of adding/removing email addresses to this >>>>> listserv, I am requesting that my email address be removed. >>>>> >>>>> This sort of exchange is fruitless, a waste of time and unprofessional. >>>>> This is not the first time I have received these types of email exchanges. >>>>> >>>>> Again, please remove my email address. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Michael Carson >>>>> YMCA of the USA >>>>>