On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:14 AM, Alex Gakuru <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:52 AM, McTim <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Alex Gakuru <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 12:44 AM, McTim <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Alex Gakuru <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Great development, for the technical side of the Internet. >>>>> Unfortunately AFRINIC, historically most shy to Human Rights, >>>> >>>> >>>> How is the most inclusive bottom-up open and transparent IG mechanism >>>> we have in Africa "most shy" to HR?? >>>> >>> >>> Who are their HR people? >>> >> >> You and me and everyone else interested in making policy. WE make >> policy, the NIC just does what we tell them in terms of policy. >> > > Mailing lists can/are open but effective policy influence is achieved with > representation on the policy making table. Their 6-person > 13 person IIRC. the folk who hold the Alternate seats are full Board members. > BOD structure http://www.afrinic.net/en/our-structure/bod of Eastern > Africa(1), Indian Ocean(1), Northern Africa(1), Western Africa(1), Central > Africa(1), Southern Africa(1) are business, ccTLDs and government persons. > It does not provide for civil society representatives. > Nor does it provide for business, gov or ccTLDs persons. Representation is regional, NOT by stakeholder group. > Or would I be missing one (including on the listed past) BOD members? > There are 2 academics elected as alternates. together, all of these folk ARE acting as CS IMHO. > > The internet was once controlled by engineers before lawyers snatched it > from them. Assertive global civil society raised its and had to be > accommodated. > how so? > Now Africa's Civil Society has risen up and is demanding a say on how > Africa (and global) Internet is managed, for example, > http://netizenproject.org/2012/08/05/pan-african-civil-society-on-who-controls-the-internet/ > We already have a say. Look at the last several AfriNIC meeting lists, you will see LOTS of CS participants!! -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel