Thanks Jfc for that perspective. Lou On 8/22/2012 6:59 PM, JFC Morfin wrote: > At 22:35 22/08/2012, Carl Smith wrote: >> Thanks Avri, >> >> This will work with V6, But would dramatically change the status quo. >> There would be radical changes for commercial aspects to the Net. >> >> Lou > > There will be radical changes for commercial aspects of the Net the > day we might insure the Civil Society, the Governements, the Users and > the International organizations understand how the DNS works. > > That day, > > 1. the ICANN's bluff will be called off. > 2. the Internet will be quite more "neutral" because more forces will > be involved, IUsers and Civil Society to begin with. > 3. innovation will be able to take-off, specially in the direction of > what is called CCN (i.e. content centric networking), i.e. access to > remote files in the network cloud on the basis of their content, even > crypted one (consider an open wikipedia: this is wiki 3.0). > > For those who joined our IUsers list at the IETF ([log in to unmask]), they > know we started today investigating on a "dangerous project": a > "President Internet Book", i.e. a way to explain the whole digital > ecosystem, the Internet is a part of for everyone to understand and > share the same specifications and user guide. This work is a long term > work and we need many people to share into it, of every specialisation > because "2.0" is a network centric bridge to something societaly > really new: the people centric society decided by the WSIS. > > The idea behind it is NOT to tell an embellished history of the US > internet once more but what future "3.0" is to be, so it may be agreed > upon, pertinently discussed, the Internet+ prototyped, network > services tested. In cooperation with the ITU which permitted "1.0" and > IETF which permitted "2.0" and throughout much work and development to > come and explanations that even Presidents may understand. > > I think this is now possible because we are "mid-way": we learned, > gained experience, developped tools, met legal and societal issues, > tried a global governance, made mistakes and obtained successes and > most of all I do not think we made too many blocking mistakes and we > discovered with the IDNA2008 consensus that the Internet architecture > was much more resilient than expected, would we read RFCs appropriately. > > jfc > > http://iucg.org Internet Users Contributing Group > [log in to unmask] - to learn, understand and propose > > >> On 8/22/2012 5:51 AM, Avri Doria wrote: >>> On 22 Aug 2012, at 10:34, Andrei Barburas wrote: >>> >>>> Two or more domain names can share the same IP address and not >>>> every domain/site has a unique IP address. As for the Internet >>>> working without the DNS, it is true when you refer to IPv6, not IPv4. >>> >>> the Internet worked before DNS and I expect it would work without >>> it, thought there would need to be some set of mechanisms for >>> turning structured human intelligible names into the structured >>> digit based names commonly referred to as numbers (aka addresses). >>> >>> it is true as we still don't know how to route on urls, we still >>> need a mechanism to translate between the names we humans are >>> comfortable with and the names that the software is designed for. >>> >>> not sure why this is not the case for IPv6 as well. >>> >>> avri >>> > > >