On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Ginger Paque <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I do agree that Europe has a lot of diversity (languages, culture, etc.), as does Latin America (languages, culture, etc.), and as does the Caribbean (languages, culture, etc.). I don't think this is about diversity. It is about making sure we include the Caribbean. For most of us in the region, 'Latin America' refers to the range and diversity of countries in Latin America. 'Latin America and the Caribbean' refers to the range and diversity of countries in Latin America PLUS the range and diversity of countries in the Caribbean.

Ginger (Virginia) Paque

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On 14 November 2012 09:45, Nuno Garcia <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I think you will agree, in Europe there is a lot of diversity. For example, the situation for users in Germany is not the same as for users in Cyprus, or the Azores (these latter islands in the middle of the North Atlantic Ocean), not the situation in Moldova or Albania the same as in England or Portugal.

There is a huge diversity in terms of culture, language, religion, economy, connectivity to the Internet backbone, services provided by local Internet organizations, education and so on...

Maybe bringing diversity as an argument on "not to" make a region isn't such a good idea...

I'm sure we can extend this rationale to Africa (and the arabic countries) and to Asia and the Pacific region.

Best regards,

Nuno Garcia
NCUC EC representative for Europe

On 14 November 2012 13:13, Ginger Paque <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

'a single LAC region' (from Alain) is very different from saying 'Latin America'. One is Latin America and the Caribbean, one is Latin America. While for some this may be a petty detail, for those in the region it is an important point for inclusion. Thanks, Tracy and all for the discussion.
Ginger

Ginger (Virginia) Paque

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On 14 November 2012 06:55, Alain Berranger <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Thanks Tracy,

Yes ICANN regions are defined for us. Besides reasons of geographical or taxonomic convenience or even simplicity, grouping LA and the Caribbean in a single "region" implies some sense of homogeneity, cultural or economical or political or otherwise. In fact the world is more complex than that. For instance a number of countries in South America and certain regions in Central America are more "Caribbean" than "Latin". So a simplified and limited geographical taxonomy is going to be inadequate from many perspectives. Economically and otherwise many Caribbean islands are more linked to North America than to Latin America.

When I worked at IDRC, the programming in the Caribbean was lumped under a single LAC region. The regional IDRC office for LAC was based in Montevideo, so in practice, program officers from the HQ in Ottawa would do most of the programming in the Caribbean, if only because travel between the Caribbean and Canada was cheaper and easier than between Uruguay and the Caribbean.

Alain

On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google wrote:
Hello,

Latin America is certainly not equal to Latin America & the Caribbean.

Latin America & the Caribbean = Latin America & the Caribbean.

These are the ICANN Regions, no?

ICANN Geographic Regions

AF = Africa
AP = Asia/Australia/Pacific
AQ = Antarctica
EUR = Europe
LAC = Latin America/Caribbean islands
NA = North America

I think it is important to make that point clear.

Rgds,

Tracy

On Nov 14, 2012 1:28 AM, "David Cake" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

The regions in the NCUC constitution are the same as the ICANN geographic regions (literally). So Latin America is Latin America/Caribbean, and Asia Pacific is Asia/Australia/Pacific.
The NCUC regions will change if the ICANN ones do.

Regards

David

On 14/11/2012, at 6:33 AM, Tracy F. Hackshaw @ Google wrote:

Hi.Brenden,
Just checking to see if the nominee.for NCUC EC Latin America really means the nominee for Latin America AND THE CARIBBEAN?
In light of the developing ICANN LAC Strategy, I am simply ensuring that the terminology and implications are in alignment going forward.

Thanks.
Rgds,
Tracy.Hackshaw
Trinidad & Tobago

On Nov 13, 2012 6:25 PM, "Brenden Kuerbis" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear NCUC Membership,

Nominations for the upcoming NCUC Election closed on Oct 31, 2012. Many thanks to the following individuals who have accepted nominations:

NCUC EC Chair

Bill Drake
NCUC EC Africa

Wilson Abigaba
Hago Dafalla
Molefi Mafereka Ndlovu
NCUC EC Asia Pacific

Norbert Klein
Mary Wong
NCUC EC Europe

Nuno Garcia
Tapani Tarvainen
Rudi Vansnick
NCUC EC Latin America

Carlos A. Afonso
NCUC EC North America

Edward Morris

The current NCUC Executive Committee has developed a list of questions to help the NCUC membership learn more about the nominees. If you have been nominated, please take a moment to complete and post to the list answers for the following questions:

1. Why do you want to serve on the EC?

2. Provide a brief biography of recent experience, associations, and affiliations relevant to serving on the Executive Committee. Describe the relevance of your personal and professional experience to serve on the NCUC Executive Committee, and identify any conflicts of interests you might have.

3. The EC performs several functional responsibilities for the Constituency. What level of time commitment can you bring to your EC role on a weekly and overall basis? Describe any concerns or limitations on your ability to attend online meetings of the Executive Committee and ICANN Meetings in person.

4. Communication with the membership is critical. How would you keep members apprised of your EC-related activities?

5. How do you foresee NCUC’s function, scale, or role changing in the future? What areas of ICANN policy, if any, need more attention and why? Be concise (200 words maximum).

As a reminder, the election period is slated to begin Nov 15 and run until midnight (UTC) Nov 30, 2012. Ballots will be sent directly from ICANN to NCUC individual members and representatives of NCUC organizational members. If you have any questions please let us know.

On behalf of the NCUC Executive Committee,

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Brenden Kuerbis
Internet Governance Project
http://internetgovernance.org

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