On 12/15/2012 11:44 PM, Baudouin SCHOMBE wrote: > I have a feeling that this is a trap. > > Baudouin dear Baudouin ... could you explain ... a trap for what and who made the trap according to you ? > > -----Original Message----- > From: NCSG-Discuss > Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] US, UK and Canada refuse to sign UN's internet > treaty > > Thanks Marc. Couldn't agree more. > > Amr > > On Dec 15, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: > >> My problem is that no matter how benign a treaty might sound in the > beginning it would lead to the creation of an infrastructure to allow > enforcement. Once you have an international infrastructure of control who is > to say the rules might change? So something might start out as the society > for the protection of cute kittens organizing to stop child porn and end up > with the thought police installing chips in your brain. >> And you can imagine where this would go when it comes to "religiously > offensive" materials sent across the internet. There are many countries > where not believing in God caries the death penalty, as well as believing in > God the wrong way. I can imagine what would happen between Christians and > Muslims on an Internet with a central control infrastructure. There was a > story recently where a man who was a non-believer determined that a crying > statue of the Virgin Mary was caused by a leaky sewer pipe and he's being > prosecuted for it. Imagine what a threat it would be to realists if those > views could be enforced across international borders. >> And what about uprisings? The Arab Spring was organized online. Would we > be obligated to censor the cries of the oppressed and tortured because of > treaty obligations of the oppressing country? >> The bottom line for me is that some criminality is the price we pay for > freedom and it's worth it. Once you put in an infrastructure to stop the bad > guys then that infrastructure can, and most certainly will, be used against > the rest of us. So I support our resistance to any treaty or domestic law to > centrally control the internet. > >