For what it's worth I can provide list services if you need that. On 1/20/2013 11:37 AM, Avri Doria wrote: > On 20 Jan 2013, at 14:14, Alain Berranger wrote: > >> I argued and pleaded, to no avail until today, > > How do you mean to no avail? > > If things don't happen on your first or tenth mention, it is to no avail? > Did you really expect things to change immediately? > What NCUC has done up to now was according to charter and yours was one of few voices in NCSG that did not like it. > > There have been discussions for ever about doing this. At one point you jumped in and had strong views. > > So we all kept on talking. > > And then at a certain point there was a general consensus that it was the thing to do and Bill did it. > > Seems like it worked as it should have. > > avri >