As for me, I couldn't imagine the world without gender and cultural (geographic) diversities : this is the multistakerholderism ! Cheers ! -Olevie- 2013/1/31, David Cake <[log in to unmask]>: > I was just clarifying the process of this particular review team selection > round - gender diversity was not an issue here, because no matter what the > outcome of the process overall, within NCSG our two applicants were both > women, and so NCSG was always going to satisfy the gender diversity > requirement of the council process. > > Personally, I think gender diversity quotas do have a valid role to play in > an institutional context. Luckily NCSGs wealth of talent is already pretty > gender diverse, so gender diversity requirements are generally positive for > us - and personally, I'm very pleased to be working alongside so many > exceptional women in the NCSG leadership team. But if you doubt that > systemic gender bias can be an issue, you don't need to look that far beyond > NCSG to find it, especially in the tech industry generally. > > I'm in favour of ICANN trying to encourage gender and geographical (and > other forms) of diversity. > > Cheers > > David > > > > On 31/01/2013, at 8:23 AM, Carl Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Thanks David, >> >> I have no problem with the geographic point, but If our best choice is a >> woman then what is the problem? To me, the one of whom we have the >> greatest confidence is who will serve our joint interests best. I look to >> the minds and hearts of those I support. There are still bigots in the >> world and surely that will continue to need addressing. Though often >> hidden from view. If the females of the world are to be our leaders >> because they have the right stuff, we are better for that. Are men afraid >> of loosing their machismo? >> >> Sorry for the rant, but I see this gender thing as demeaning to those who >> have worked to get to the position which they have rightfully earned. >> >> Respectfully, >> >> Lou >> >> On 1/30/2013 12:37 PM, David Cake wrote: >>> FWIW, only one GNSO endorsed candidate was required to meet gender >>> diversity requirements, and both applicants from NCSG were women, so NCSG >>> was inevitably going to meet the gender diversity requirements for the >>> council, and so gender diversity was not at issue for this selection. One >>> applicant from the Registries was a woman, but they did not choose to >>> advance them as a candidate for endorsements. >>> >>> The diversity requirement that is relevant to the council endorsement >>> decision was geographical diversity - we have ended up with four GNSO >>> endorsed candidates from North America. There was an option for the >>> council to endorse two extra candidates to satisfy geographical diversity >>> requirements, one each from NCSG (Marie-Laure) and CSG, but the >>> contracted parties did not vote for it. >>> >>> Regards >>> David >>> >>> On 30/01/2013, at 8:38 AM, Carl Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Bill, >>>> >>>> Is this a solution looking for a problem or is there a problem of which >>>> I am unaware. Seems to me, we have tried to get the representation with >>>> confidence in mind. I know we talked about diversity with agreement. >>>> But if our best representation is not of the right sex......? I for one >>>> just want our consensus to be aggressively pursued by whom ever we feel >>>> most confident. I never got the impression any of us was a bigot. We >>>> have a liberty minded group, I believe. >>>> >>>> Respectfully, >>>> >>>> Lou >>>> >>>> On 1/29/2013 9:51 AM, William Drake wrote: >>>>> Hi Alain >>>>> >>>>> The process agreed agreed June 2010 >>>>> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/other/aoc-reviews is that >>>>> >>>>> "If the list does not meet the above mentioned diversity objectives, >>>>> the Council as a whole may choose to endorse up to two additional >>>>> candidates from the applicant pool who would help to give the list of >>>>> GNSO nominees the desired balance. In this case, the Council would hold >>>>> a vote during its teleconference, with sixty percent support of both >>>>> houses represented in the Council being required for endorsement. If no >>>>> candidate obtains that level of support, the list of endorsements >>>>> obtained via the bottom-up process of stakeholder group nominations >>>>> will be deemed final and forwarded to ICANN." >>>>> >>>>> So the additional nominees would be of the GNSO generally, not of the >>>>> houses or SGs. The CPH stance was thus technically fine, just >>>>> ill-considered. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 28, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Alain Berranger >>>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Robin, >>>>>> >>>>>> Did not know it was an option for contracting parties to block >>>>>> non-contracted parties additional candidates. Is that the right >>>>>> interpretation? Did they also blocked additional candidates that >>>>>> would have added gender diversity? >>>>>> >>>>>> Alain >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, January 28, 2013, Robin Gross wrote: >>>>>> I am told that the contracting parties blocked all additional >>>>>> candidates that would have added some geo diversity to the group. >>>>>> That part is disappointing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Jonathan Robinson" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>> Date: January 27, 2013 12:49:41 PM PST >>>>>>> To: "Steve Crocker" <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>, >>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>> Cc: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>, >>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>, "tony holmes" <[log in to unmask]>, >>>>>>> "William Drake" <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>, >>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]>, "'KEITH DRAZEK'" <[log in to unmask]>, "Matt >>>>>>> Serlin" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>>> Subject: GNSO applicants to the ATRT2 team >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Steve, Dear Heather, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please see attached letter regarding appointment of applicants >>>>>>> arising from within the GNSO to the ATRT2 team. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank-you for giving this matter your attention. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best wishes, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jonathan Robinson >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chair >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ICANN GNSO Council >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [log in to unmask] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> skype: jonathan.m.r >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA >>>>>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca >>>>>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, >>>>>> www.schulich.yorku.ca >>>>>> Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, >>>>>> www.gkpfoundation.org >>>>>> NA representative, Chasquinet Foundation, www.chasquinet.org >>>>>> Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/ >>>>>> O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824 >>>>>> Skype: alain.berranger >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> AVIS DE CONFIDENTIALITÉ >>>>>> Ce courriel est confidentiel et est à l’usage exclusif du destinataire >>>>>> ci-dessus. 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