Dear all, Regarding the invasion of privacy and apps that upload your contacts to a crowdsourced database... I strongly believe that we should create the opportunity to educate people regarding what they can and cannot do in order for their privacy to be "safe"; here I am not talking about governments, I am talking about organizations that develop such apps. On the other hand, it is also important to know and realize that even if I am careful with what I share, that doesn't mean that my friends/colleagues/buddies are as careful as I am. Have an excellent week ahead! *Andrei Barburas* Community Relations Services Officer International Institute for Communication and Development (IICD) P.O. Box 11586, 2502 AN The Hague, The Netherlands NPOC, ICANN member Mobile: +31 62 928 2879 Phone: +31 70 311 7311 Fax: +31 70 311 7322 Website: www.iicd.org *People ** **ICT Development* On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Carl Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > It's good to hear some positive news. > > Thanks to all for the hard work. Let's keep the momentum moving forward. > > Lou > > > On 2/3/2013 4:01 AM, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" wrote: > >> Hi Alain, >> I want to join Avri in her positive comment on the outcome of the LA >> meeting. On the one hand it was crazy to sit 30 hours in planes for 20 >> hours of meetings & briefings. However it was worth and has helped to >> create a much more constructive collaborative climate between the two SGs, >> within our own SG community and with ICANN Staff. >> I want to congratulate you also for your outreach plan. As already >> discussed with Klaus, I see here a lot of potential to bring expertise both >> from NPOC and NCUC together to strengthen our SG as a whole, in particular >> with the practical projects as papers, webinars and workshops/conferences. >> My concrete proposal is - and I made this already before I saw your >> paper in our NCUC meeting - to organize a monthly NCSG webinar (in >> cooperation with ICANN Staff to use their facilities) on ICANN related >> policy issues which would be open for the whole ICANN community (and >> beyond). We could agree until Beijng on a list of ten themes (and >> lecturers) for 2013/2014 and announce this with concrete dates during the >> Public Forum. I would volunteer to give a webinar in fall 2013 on "WCIT, >> WTPF, WTDC: Can ICANN and ITU develop a constructive collaboration in the >> Internet Governance Eco-System?" >> We could agree also on a joint paper series as a follow up to your >> project with UNCTAD. >> We should also start to think about joint workshop proposals for IGF in >> Bali (and probably for regional IGFs as EURODIG in Lisbon in June) to bring >> issues of special interests for non-commercial users to the agenda and to >> link more NGOs to the process. I hope also that Klaus engagement in the >> German IGF (June 3) will be useful at the national level. >> Best wishes >> wolfgang >> >> ______________________________**__ >> >> Von: NCSG-Discuss im Auftrag von Avri Doria >> Gesendet: Sa 02.02.2013 20:52 >> An: [log in to unmask] >> Betreff: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] WEF Background Paper >> >> >> >> Hi Alain. >> >> I agree, the meeting was quite good for both the NCSG and bring all of >> the all of its NCU/NGO/NFP/academic&activist participants together. >> >> I also like the view we were able to get of how ICANN is changing and of >> the direction in which Fadi seems to be facing. >> >> I also appreciated some of bits of agreement that we were able to reach >> with the other Non Contract Party SG. I even appreciated the clarity with >> which some areas of agreement and disagreement we have with some of the >> constituencies in the CSG were able to be discussed. >> >> It was a good trip. >> >> Of course we probably also owe this list a more comprehensive report. >> Maybe our leaders can work together to produce one. >> >> avri >> >> On 2 Feb 2013, at 08:48, Alain Berranger wrote: >> >> Thanks Kathy, >>> >>> It was a good meeting. For me it was about an opportunity to start some >>> NPOC team building. Secondly, it was the very first time in my opininon >>> that NCSG leadership came together and a climate of trust clearly set in so >>> that from here on we will together move the non-commercial issues forward. >>> We have a lot of work to do together, for instance getting NGO/NFP >>> Engagement on the same level at ICANN as Government Engagement and Business >>> Engagement. With the NCSG getting its act together, we have removed a >>> barrier to ICANN creating a dedicated senior post for NGO/NPF Engagement. >>> Also, the LA meeting was an opportunity to reach to CSG and its >>> Constituencies leadership and to establish perhaps that a win for one side >>> is not always a loss for the other and that NCHP has a role to play in >>> advancing a number of higher level debates to make ICANN stronger in the >>> end. >>> >>> Alain >>> >>> On Friday, February 1, 2013, Kathy Kleiman wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> I have not yet read the attached paper, but it is a background paper >>> that Fadi received at the World Economic Forum in Davos. Fadi was in a >>> meeting on user data and privacy, and found himself speaking for users >>> (those whose data is captured). Hooray! >>> >>> A good intersessional meeting in LA. A new experiment on having the >>> Noncommercial and Commercial meet together for meetings on both policy >>> issues, and administrative issues (for growth and operation of our >>> Stakeholder and constituency groups). I hope others will comment. I found >>> it very valuable -- and think we have a great NCSG team! >>> >>> Best, >>> Kathy >>> >>> >>