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On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:11 PM, Brenden Kuerbis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Happy to help with this as well.

-- Brenden

On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:54 PM, joy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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+1 - I am happy to support this idea.
Joy

On 27/03/2013 9:47 a.m., William Drake wrote:
> +1
>
> Get some allies
>
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 8:28 PM, [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> I agree that the Council would be the appropriate filer in this
>> case. As I mentioned in a different message, there seems to be a
>> pattern that decisions are being made outside the GNSO policy
>> processes - although that may be proven to not be the case in
>> one or more of the instances we've discussed on this list. In
>> any event I think it would be useful and appropriate for the
>> Council to discuss this directly, and hope our Councilors can
>> support this action. It seems to me also that before introducing
>> the motion it may be worth investigating whether a Councilor from
>> a different SG/House would be prepared to second it.
>>
>> Cheers Mary
>>
>>
>> Mary W S Wong Professor of Law Faculty Chair, Global IP
>> Partnerships Chair, Graduate IP Programs UNIVERSITY OF NEW
>> HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW Two White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA
>> Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>> *From: *  Avri Doria <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> *To:*
>>  <[log in to unmask]
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> *Date: *  3/26/2013 3:23
>> PM *Subject: *  Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Should NCSG consider filing
>> an ombudsman complaint against ICANN senior staff for violating
>> the organization's policy development process?
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> I can support the NCSG filling such a complaint, though it would
>> be better for the GNSO Council to file it.
>>
>> Perhaps we can first introduce it as a motion for the next
>> g-council meeting, and if the council decides against it, then
>> we could do it independently.
>>
>> avri
>>
>> On 26 Mar 2013, at 15:14, Robin Gross wrote:
>>
>>> I think NCSG should consider filing an ombudsman complaint
>>> against
>> the organization's senior management for violating the
>> organization's policy development process by adopting staff's
>> "strawman solution" which never went through proper process (or
>> any process for that matter).
>>>
>>> The most dangerous part of staff's adopted proposal creates
>> unprecedented new rights for trademark holders with this "once
>> infringed" theory of new rights to TM+50 derivations of that
>> mark. This particular proposal was stitched together by TM
>> lobbyists and staff when NCSG wasn't even in the room - because
>> it was 10pm at night in LA and I had left for my flight on
>> staff's assurances that no policy discussions would take place
>> that evening.  ALAC wasn't in the room either (although Evan &
>> Alan participated remotely on the phone in the middle of their
>> night).
>>>
>>> The GNSO Council said don't adopt this policy.
>>>
>>> ICANN staff admitted the proposal was a policy decision and
>>> not an
>> implementation decision - a key distinction in staff's ability
>> to make decisions. [Although the first time staff published its
>> report on the mtg's discussion of that proposal, staff's blog
>> report differed from what the CEO stated to meeting participants
>> and said this proposal had been characterized as an
>> "implementation" decision by mtg participants.  It took some
>> persistence and insistence from mtg participants to correct
>> staff's blog post and classify this proposal as "policy" - which
>> was the truth of what the LA mtg participants had said.  Finally
>> staff gave-in, as I was not the only one to complain about the
>> inaccurate reporting, and they changed the web-posting to
>> reflect that the group - and staff - had classified this proposal
>> as "policy, and not implementation" at the LA mtg.  The CEO
>> apologize for staff's "mistake".  I'm sure it's all another
>> coincidence...]
>>>
>>> The CEO told Congress only a few weeks' previously that ICANN
>>> could
>> not adopt such a policy - in part because it creates new rights
>> (and ICANN isn't supposed to creating new rights).
>>>
>>> The above doesn't even go into the underlying substance of the
>> particular (TM+50) proposal (which turns trademark law on its
>> head). How is anyone going to criticize a company or product
>> that was "found to abused" by someone else, somewhere else, in
>> an entirely unrelated circumstance?  This proposal actually
>> thumbs its nose at trademark law because trademark law recognizes
>> that "once infringed" does not create some magical new category
>> of rights that is allowed to trample on the expression rights of
>> all the innocent and lawful uses of a word (that resembles a
>> trademark).  But I'll save the complaints about how nonsensical
>> the substance of this proposal is for another email.  This email
>> is just about the insanity of ICANN senior staff attempting to
>> usurp the bottom-up policy development process to appease
>> powerful political interests.
>>>
>>> If ICANN staff refuses to follow the organization's own stated
>> policies, the Ombudsman is supposed to be able to intercede, no?
>>>
>>> Best, Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> IP JUSTICE Robin Gross, Executive Director 1192 Haight Street,
>>> San Francisco, CA  94117  USA p: +1-415-553-6261    f:
>>> +1-415-462-6451 w: http://www.ipjustice.org
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