Which front page? Is it the one from "tangente university" or something like that? Sorry to still be missing it. Nicolas On 13/03/2013 6:16 AM, William Drake wrote: > One thing I'd be eager to express a group view on is that abysmal map > of the Internet governance ecosystem Fadi's put on the front page. I > told him I thought it lame and he was genuinely taken aback, he's been > persuaded it unlocks the secrets of the universe… > > > On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:56 AM, William Drake <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> Thanks Robin, good notes, one addendum since you didn't have a access >> to the Adobe: there was a small bit of discussion about the one-page >> "cheat sheets" we agreed in LA to produce summarizing our positions >> on key issues for Fadi and his team, so they have some organized and >> accessible idea where we're coming from on a range of issues. There >> was some back and forth about just how we would do this and then the >> discussion got side tracked, but I think the most popular view was >> that it should be done at the SG level and coordinated through the PC >> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Policy+Issue+Summaries. >> From my perspective anyway, one would think this should be >> antecedent to and more important than some of the other items >> mentioned yesterday. Yes we could try to help others and broader >> processes by focusing the RAA discussion, supporting EWG, helping to >> define "public interest" for ICANN and all the rest, but shouldn't we >> first concentrate on getting out our own statements about our own >> views as a community, lay down some markers, make it less easy for >> ICANN leadership and staff to characterize community sentiments on a >> given issue in ways that ignore our views, etc. >> >> We have three and half weeks until Beijing. Shouldn't we be able to >> pull together teams to do concise and spiffy statements on say 6 >> topics, e.g. maybe a couple cross-cutting institutional >> (transparency, inclusion in the new extra-meeting meetings, outreach, >> policy/implementation) and a couple substantive policy (RAA, >> registrant right,s INGO, WHOIS, closed generics—both sides—etc). >> >> If there's sufficient juice to do this, I'd volunteer to help with >> the institutional bits, as these synch better with the UC EC work >> underway... >> >> Best, >> >> Bill >> >> >> On Mar 13, 2013, at 2:51 AM, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask] >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> >>> A few notes in advance of receiving the transcript and recording >>> from today's NCSG Open Policy Meeting. >>> >>> Proposal to organize a couple briefing sessions with ICANN staff and >>> Registrar negotiators regarding the recent debacle over the >>> Registrar Agreement Amendment (RAA) and ICANN unilateralism. >>> >>> Proposal to organize a briefing session with privacy-concerned >>> members of the WHOIS Expert Working Group about how NCSG can >>> contribute to the EWG discussions and possible outcomes of EWG. >>> >>> Proposal that NCSG help define "public interest" discussion at ICANN >>> by preparing a list of criteria to consider in the evaluation (Wendy >>> holds drafting pen - looking for input). >>> >>> Below is the list of discussion topics suggested by NCSG members for >>> NCSG GNSO Representatives to propose at Thursday's GNSO Council >>> Meeting on the topic of Beijing planning. >>> >>> GNSO & Board Discussion: >>> 1. Bottom-up multi-stakeholderism v. ICANN unilateralism >>> 2. Definition of "public interest" at ICANN >>> 3. ICANN engagement & outreach plans >>> 4. New constituencies >>> >>> GNSO & GAC Discussion: >>> 1. Policy vs. Implementation - Roles of GAC & GNSO >>> 2. Definition of "public interest" at ICANN >>> >>> CCnso & GNSO Discussion: >>> 1. Rights & Responsibilities document in relation to RAA >>> 2. ICANN engagement & outreach plans >>> 3. Regulation of CCtlds that look like Gtlds >>> >>> I apologize if I've mischaracterized anyone's suggested topic above. >>> Please correct me. And also if there are other suggestions to add >>> to this list, please do. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Robin >>> >>> >>> >>> IP JUSTICE >>> Robin Gross, Executive Director >>> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA 94117 USA >>> p: +1-415-553-6261 f: +1-415-462-6451 >>> w: http://www.ipjustice.org <http://www.ipjustice.org/> e: >>> [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>> >>> >>> >> >