I was asked off-list about my references to earlier comments on the registrants rights and responsibilities document. I can't find them in the list archive (and I don't keep local copies of list traffic), but they would have been in the march/april timeframe. I suppose this may have been during the list restructuring. There were a couple of rounds, ending in a suggestion by Milton that a position paper be drafted, perhaps starting with that thread. Among other things, I pointed out that the unilateral right to change terms (sound familiar?) without proactive notice to the registrant and without redline (change-bar) of what actually changes version to version makes any other right meaningless. Without proactive notice, the registrant will be ignorant (as typically changes are posted in some obscure part of the registrar's website). Without redline, no-one will figure out what changed (as typically they simply post a complete replacement of a multi-page document in lawyerese - and often change formatting so even diff fails to show the differences.) I also noted that we should insist that the registrant have a no-charge exit to another registrar if material changes adverse to the registrant are imposed. There was more, but I'm not inclined to reconstruct it. If someone saved that thread, perhaps the list administrators could insert it into the archive in the proper place. Thanks. Timothe Litt ACM Distinguished Engineer -------------------------- This communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views, if any, on the matters discussed.