Then why your Church didn't see the "Reality" when China started filtering packets, censuring content, persecuting bloggers ? -J On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Marc Perkel <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > I think surveillance is a starting point. I agree that the discussion > should be widened. So - let's participate and widen it to include universal > rights. > > > On 10/27/2013 9:32 AM, Jorge Amodio wrote: > > > NO. If the primary focus is surveillance, now if they are willing to widen > the discussion to universal rights and other issues associated with IG, and > governments obsession to gain control, and call for generating an open > agenda we are talking about something totally different, > > Regards > Jorge > > > > On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 5:22 AM, avri <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> http://igcaucus.org/sign-on.html >> >> Do we want to endorse as ncsg? >> >> avri >> >> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device >> > > >