Magnificent. Adam On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:11 AM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: > Dear compa McT, > > You being a rigorous techie, maybe you will not change your logical > view... :) And I understand there is a lot of people in all sectors who > feel disturbed by the emerging presence of Brazil and its concrete > proposals to finally move on. > > At the very beginning Fadi describes the motivation -- Rousseff's > statement at the UN, her clear adherence to the basic principles most of > civil society defends (which she has repeated several times in her radio > program and her twitter @dilmabr), and her proposal to build a planetary > framework of rights. This did not come out of the blue, from a meeting > of IP addressers in a wonderful city called Montevideo. Do you think > Fadi just dropped by the presidential door in Brasilia, knocked and > entered to sell that proposal? :) > > Anyway, it is relevant to understand that this is not a proposal for yet > another Icann meeting, or a reedition of the UN chatting space called > IGF, as both Dilma and Fadi made it very clear. It is a major > achievement that that motivation brought Icann to colead this effort > jointly with BR. > > All the more so because, as you know, there are strong sectors within > the government who would love to bring the root-zone to the purview of > the ITU, who hate Icann, who do not like the pluriparticipative model of > governance we defend, and who are basically associated with the > transnational telecom oligopoly which controls the main networks in BR. > Dilma is courageously up against a huge wall here, to defend those > principles, and receiving Fadi and emerging from the meeting with thar > proposal was a major political milestone for her in those internal > disputes as well. > > [] fraterno > > --c.a. > > On 10/10/2013 10:14 AM, McTim wrote: >> At 55 seconds in, Fadi says: >> "Her Excellency President Rousseff has accepted our invitation that we >> hold next year a Global Summit" >> >> Seem fairly clear to me. >> >> On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> McT, maybe you should watch the video a few times more... :) >>> >>> --c.a. >>> >>> On 10/10/2013 09:57 AM, McTim wrote: >>>> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:50 PM, michael gurstein <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> Why so pessimistic and cynical everyone.. I may be wrong but this isn't just >>>>> about ICANN, although hats off to Fadi for getting this going and putting >>>>> that into play… >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not pessimistic or cynical. >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But I would be extremely surprised if the Pres. of Brazil is going to invite >>>>> the world to Rio in April next year to discuss names and numbers. Rather my >>>>> reading is that she is by-passing the quite evident log-jam at the ITU, the >>>>> frivolities of the IGF, the now discredited "Internet Freedom" crusade and >>>>> the status quo which it was intended to cast into concrete errr… (non) rules >>>>> and regs. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It appears to me, after watching the video again several times that it >>>> is ICANN (and I assume the rest of the Montevideoans) that are >>>> spearheading this. In other words the idea of the Summit comes from >>>> the T&A folks, not Brasilia. >>>> >>>> >> >> >>