On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi, > > I dont even think there are preliminary agenda makers yet. > i think they are still at a meta stage trying to figure out who the preliminary agenda makers should be. true, but in the recent call with Fadi and GNSO, Fadi said: "So for example, some people are saying, "Oh, this will be all about surveillance." It won't be. And I already told them that if we even come close to the surveillance issue, we will pull out immediately, all of us. This is not about surveillance. This is not a conference that should come out with proposals to solve any particular problems. This is a conference that should focus on high-level principles and, as you said, these have been floating a lot of us, a lot of you have done a lot of work on this that's just putting things together for that, and should focus on an institutional framework." -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel