Indeed, if the characterization of "the nature, scope and effect of such 
guidance" will be a substantive part of the WG's debated output, then 
it's just better at this stage not to propose any possible 
boundary-setting process extensions.

Nicolas

On 2014-01-17 7:51 PM, Olivier Kouami wrote:
> +1 @Amr; I am following you. I like your opinion on this matter.
> Thank you also for the link.
> Cheers !
> -Olevie-
>
>
>
> 2014/1/17 Amr Elsadr <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>
>     BTW…, here is a link to the WG charter for reference:
>     https://community.icann.org/display/PIWG/3.+WG+Charter
>
>     Thanks.
>
>     Amr
>
>     On Jan 17, 2014, at 2:43 PM, Amr Elsadr <[log in to unmask]
>     <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>     > Hi Avri,
>     >
>     > I think these definitions are all fine except for the one for
>     “GNSO Policy Guidance”. The proposal to develop these definitions
>     was made by the work-plan sub-team of the Policy and
>     Implementation WG as a first step in answering the charter
>     questions. This proposal was a very reasonable one (IMHO) as the
>     intent of the definitions was solely for use by the WG members in
>     order to make sure that everyone on the WG understood what the
>     terms referred to while using them to develop recommendations. The
>     definitions, as they stand now, are working definitions and not
>     meant to be an output of the WG.
>     >
>     > However, the way I see it, the definition of “GNSO Policy
>     Guidance” is a bit preemptive in some of its assumptions. The
>     context in which policy guidance would be produced is still
>     something to be determined by the WG, but already given what I
>     feel is an inappropriate framing. I would have preferred something
>     more closely in sync with the charter question like:
>     >
>     > A process for developing gTLD policy other than “Consensus
>     Policy” instead of a GNSO Policy Development Process. The process
>     by which policy is developed using “GNSO Policy Guidance” as well
>     as the criteria determining when it would be appropriate to do so
>     will be deliberated by the Policy and Implementation Working
>     Group, and included as part of the Working Group’s recommendations
>     in its final report to the GNSO Council.
>     >
>     > This will all still be discussed by the WG of course, but I see
>     no need to include the circumstances in which policy guidance
>     would be resorted to at this stage. WG members might very well
>     work based on these assumptions in the future, when they should
>     really make these determinations themselves.
>     >
>     > Thanks.
>     >
>     > Amr
>     >
>     > On Jan 17, 2014, at 7:45 AM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]
>     <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>     >
>     >>
>     >> Proposed definitions in the Policy and Implementation WG.
>     >>
>     >> Viewpoints?
>     >>
>     >> avri
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> -------- Original Message --------
>     >> Subject:     [gnso-policyimpl-wg] For your review - proposed
>     working
>     >> definitions
>     >> Date:        Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:41:20 -0800
>     >> From:        Marika Konings <[log in to unmask]
>     <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>     >> To: [log in to unmask]
>     <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>     <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> Dear All,
>     >>
>     >> On behalf of the working definitions sub-team, please find
>     attached the
>     >> proposed P&I working definitions for your review and consideration.
>     >> Please feel free to share any feedback you may have with the
>     mailing
>     >> list in advance of next week's WG meeting.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks,
>     >>
>     >> Marika
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> <Draft definitions - FINAL - 16 January 2013.doc>
>
>
>
>
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