On 16-Mar-14 06:16, William Drake wrote: > > All the more reason for civil society actors to clear their throats and > bring a little sanity…. > But views in so-called civil society are all over the map and match idea for idea both the crazy and the sane we see elsewhere. Certainly lots of civil society actors are talking now, but we have widely divergent view points. I think that first we have to agree on some sane ideas. I doubt we can find many we agree on, but if we find just a few basic ideas like "No the UN is not going to get IANA", we may be doing all we can do as a group. For example there are many proposals for the way forward. The most famous being that offered by Brenden and Milton with lots of other contributions including one I made. These are all very different and it will take a bit of work to distill from all of them the actual path forward. While it looks like NCSG already endorsed the Brenden and Milton plan, I don't remember us doing so, though many here do endorse it. I don't happen to, though I do credit it for making me think about this seriously - I probably would not have made a contribution if I had not been so disturbed by their contribution. So I am grateful to is for showing me a path we should not follow. So yeah Civil Society needs to open its mouth, but what are we going to say? avri