Avri is correct,

There is cross channel static at several levels here. Since the core issue here (stakeholder voice and stakeholder interests in the Internet ecosystem (not just ICANN's remit) ) I will write more later.
Tied up in other business at the moment.

To paraphrase the American humorist Mark Twain:  "Misunderstood information can be around the world before accurate information has time to put its shoes on."

Let's want for a bit,and clear the air. There is more than enough to do at all levels and more than one "deck where there is a call to deck hands". Let's get the shoes on first.

Sam L.

 On 18/07/2014 10:56 AM, Avri Doria wrote:
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Hi,

It is possible i am misunderstanding, but i think the conversation is
cross channeled.

In one case the argument seems to be about how hard it is to get the
NGOs who are all out consumed with their mission on a bare bones (time,
money) budget to do this too.

In one case the argument seems to that we MUST get them involved because
it is instrumental for them to be involved.

From my vantage point, I think both are true.  Accommodating both
realities is tough work.

avri

BTW, my working definition of multistakeholderism (m17m) as a reference
to where i come from in these discussions:

   Multistakeholderism (m17m)

    The study and practice of forms of participatory democracy that
allow for all those who have a stake and who have the inclination, to
participate on equal footing in the deliberation of issues and the
recommendation of solutions. While final decisions and implementation
may be assigned to a single stakeholder group, these decision makers are
always accountable to all of the stakeholders for their decisions and
the implementations.

Of course the devil is in the details and implementation is really hard.