Hi, I can report that a few people in the CWG drafting team have indicated sympathy with Milton's point and assuming there is more agreement in the discussion, may be willing to substitute the langauge. I haven't been convinced and think people are missing the point. But in the long run that probably doesn't matter. If I find myself in a dissenting group of one, I won't create a kurfuffle. avri On 14-Aug-14 11:14, Brenden Kuerbis wrote: > Hi Avri, > > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Hi, > > As I said, the CWG has defined the notion of IANA accountability as > being in scope for the CWG. I think that is a stronger alternative as > no matter what process ICANN picks to resolve its accountability > problems, the CWG can make its own determinations on IANA > accountability. > > > Sure. > > > And since this is ICANN, many of the same people will be on both, or > will cooordinate through their SOAC and SG/Cs. > > > Sure. But I do agree that having similar language where possible will > prevent misunderstandings, avoid loopholes, etc.: > > The IANA stewardship transition process is taking place alongside a > parallel and related process on enhancing ICANN accountability. While > maintaining the accountability of Internet identifier governance is > central to both processes, this group's scope is focused on the > arrangements required for the continuance of IANA functions [pertaining > to DNS root zone management] in an accountable and widely accepted > manner after the expiry of the NTIA-ICANN contract. Nevertheless, the > two processes are interrelated and interdependent and should > appropriately coordinate their work. > > -- B > > avri > > > > > On 14-Aug-14 09:49, Avri Doria wrote: > > On 14-Aug-14 09:40, Milton L Mueller wrote: > >> I don't understand why Avri is not seeing this and offering apologias > >> for the oversight in the CWG charter. > > > > Hey, I am in the room. > > > > Because i disagree and think what we have is stronger. > > > > avri > > > > > >