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Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:48:03 +0900
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Subject:      Re: Fwd: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's
              Enhancing ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
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On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:

> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross =
community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had =
previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also =
proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope =
NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.


Robin,

the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not cross =
constituency. =20

Adam



>  Is there support from others as well?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Robin
>=20
>=20
> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing =
ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>=20
>> Hi everyone,
>>=20
>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the =
accountability public comment and they are proposing several =
recommendations
>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a =
joint SO/AC/SG statement.=20
>>=20
>> Best Regards,
>>=20
>> Rafik
> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> [log in to unmask]
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>=20
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Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:55:50 +0900
Reply-To:     Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi everyone,

there were several discussions in the mailing list about participation and
how newcomer can get involved in policy discussion. for that matter, there
is the GNSO working group newcomer session where participants get an
insight on how working groups works, their procedures , processes and how
policy is developed.
so please try to attend that webinar, that will be good introduction to
join a working group. Please follow the instructions described below
(dates/time, contact etc ).

in addition to that you can find more info about :
* GNSO basics:  http://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/101
* GNSO policy development: http://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/consensus-policy
* GNSO procedures: http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/procedures
 and short explanation on how to get involved
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/How+to+get+Involved

Best Regards,

Rafik


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digest when you join a GNSO Working Group and these monthly meetings are an
opportunity for newcomers and more experienced participants to meet in an
informal setting without the pressure of =E2=80=9Creal work=E2=80=9D that n=
eeds be done.

The agenda is flexible. The presenters will be ready with a standard set of
materials if people would like to discuss them.  Feel free to submit
questions, either in advance or at the beginning of the meeting, if there
is a topic that you would like to explore in more depth .  Providing useful
answers to a wide range of questions is part of the reason why these
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>there were several discuss=
ions in the mailing list about participation and how newcomer can get invol=
ved in policy discussion. for that matter, there is the GNSO working group =
newcomer session where participants get an insight on how working groups wo=
rks, their procedures , processes and how policy is developed.</div><div>so=
 please try to attend that webinar, that will be good introduction to join =
a working group. Please follow the instructions described below (dates/time=
, contact etc ).</div><div><br></div><div>in addition to that you can find =
more info about :</div><div>* GNSO basics: =C2=A0<a href=3D"http://gnso.ica=
nn.org/en/basics/101">http://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/101</a></div><div>* G=
NSO policy development: <a href=3D"http://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/consensu=
s-policy">http://gnso.icann.org/en/basics/consensus-policy</a></div><div>* =
GNSO procedures: <a href=3D"http://gnso.icann.org/en/council/procedures">ht=
tp://gnso.icann.org/en/council/procedures</a></div><div>=C2=A0and short exp=
lanation on how to get involved <a href=3D"https://community.icann.org/disp=
lay/gnsononcomstake/How+to+get+Involved">https://community.icann.org/displa=
y/gnsononcomstake/How+to+get+Involved</a>=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>
Best Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br></div><div><br><=
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G Newcomer Open House Session</span><br></p><h1><u></u></h1><p><span style=
=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">These ongoing monthly sessions are for ne=
w GNSO WG participants to come together and discuss any questions they may =
have about GNSO Working Groups, procedures and/or processes. We know there =
is a lot of information to digest when you join a GNSO Working Group and th=
ese monthly meetings are an opportunity for newcomers and more experienced =
participants to meet in an informal setting without the pressure of =E2=80=
=9Creal work=E2=80=9D that needs be done.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span =
style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The agenda is flexible. The presente=
rs will be ready with a standard set of materials if people would like to d=
iscuss them<span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">.</span> =C2=A0Feel free to=
 submit questions, either in advance or at the beginning of the meeting, if=
 there is a topic that you would like to explore in more depth .=C2=A0 Prov=
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an><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">23 October <span style=3D"c=
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/span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,s=
erif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-=
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sted to join the next </span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif">m=
eeting on 23 October or any <span style=3D"color:black">of the future meeti=
ngs, please let the GNSO Secretariat know (</span></span><span lang=3D"FR" =
style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><a href=3D"mailto:gnso-s=
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span></a></span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">)<=
/span><span style=3D"font-family:Arial,sans-serif"> and we will <span style=
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ions you already have, or any overviews or introductions you think would be=
 helpful (e.g. GNSO Policy Development Process or GNSO Working Group guidel=
ines), please let us know in advance and we will prepare materials accordin=
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nterested.</span></span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span style=3D"font-family:Ari=
al,sans-serif;color:black">We look forward to welcoming you at the next mee=
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Date:         Thu, 25 Sep 2014 19:58:06 -0700
Reply-To:     Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>
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From:         Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's
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Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder Group, =
the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the IP =
Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other part =
of the GNSO. =20

Best,
Robin

On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:

>=20
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>=20
>> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross =
community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had =
previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also =
proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope =
NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>=20
>=20
> Robin,
>=20
> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not cross =
constituency. =20
>=20
> Adam
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> Is there support from others as well?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>>=20
>>=20
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>=20
>>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing =
ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>>=20
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>=20
>>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the =
accountability public comment and they are proposing several =
recommendations
>>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a =
joint SO/AC/SG statement.=20
>>>=20
>>> Best Regards,
>>>=20
>>> Rafik
>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>=20
>=20
>=20


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Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2014 10:02:32 +0700
Reply-To:     Norbert Klein <[log in to unmask]>
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From:         Norbert Klein <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's
              Enhancing ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
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If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line with our 
concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join all the 
others with the present text.

Norbert Klein
Cambodia

=

On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder Group, the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the IP Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other part of the GNSO.
>
> Best,
> Robin
>
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
>
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>>
>> Robin,
>>
>> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not cross constituency.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>> Is there support from others as well?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>>>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>>>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the accountability public comment and they are proposing several recommendations
>>>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a joint SO/AC/SG statement.
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Rafik
>>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>
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Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2014 04:14:20 +0100
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+1 to Norbert's view.

Cheers!

sent from Google nexus 4
kindly excuse brevity and typos.
On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, "Norbert Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line with our
> concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join all the
> others with the present text.
>
> Norbert Klein
> Cambodia
>
> =
>
> On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>
>> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder Group, the
>> Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the IP
>> Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other part of
>> the GNSO.
>>
>> Best,
>> Robin
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
>>
>>  On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross
>>>> community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had
>>>> previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also
>>>> proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope
>>>> NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Robin,
>>>
>>> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not cross
>>> constituency.
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Is there support from others as well?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Robin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>>  From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing
>>>>> ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>>>>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>>>>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the
>>>>> accountability public comment and they are proposing several recommendations
>>>>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a
>>>>> joint SO/AC/SG statement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>
>>>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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<p dir=3D"ltr">+1 to Norbert&#39;s view.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Cheers!</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, &quot;Norbert Klein&quot; =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:<br ty=
pe=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If NCSG is the only one n=
ot yet signed, and as it seems in line with our concern, I suggest that we =
do not try to make changes, but join all the others with the present text.<=
br>
<br>
Norbert Klein<br>
Cambodia<br>
<br>
=3D<br>
<br>
On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder Group, the R=
egistrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the IP Constituency,=
 and the ISP Constituency.=C2=A0 So NCSG is the only other part of the GNSO=
.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Robin<br>
<br>
On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.=C2=A0 I think this draft cross commun=
ity submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had previousl=
y raised with ICANN&#39;s current accountability plan.=C2=A0 It also propos=
es a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.=C2=A0 I hope NCSG=
 will endorse this cross community statement.<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Robin,<br>
<br>
the statement&#39;s from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not cross =
constituency.<br>
<br>
Adam<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Is there support from others as well?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Robin<br>
<br>
<br>
Begin forwarded message:<br>
<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
From: Rafik Dammak &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"=
_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN&#39;s Enhancing ICA=
NN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments<br>
Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT<br>
To: NCSG-Policy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
Hi everyone,<br>
<br>
you find attached the comment from registries SG for the accountability pub=
lic comment and they are proposing several recommendations<br>
Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a joint SO=
/AC/SG statement.<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<br>
<br>
Rafik<br>
</blockquote>
&lt;ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx&gt;<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
______________________________<u></u>_________________<br>
PC-NCSG mailing list<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">PC-NCSG@ipjustic=
e.org</a><br>
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>http://mailman.ipjustice.org/<u></u>listinfo/pc-ncsg</a><br>
</blockquote></blockquote>
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Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2014 13:18:34 +0900
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              Enhancing ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
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My feeling is it's not appropriate for NCUC/NCSG to endorse statements =
it has not had the opportunity to review, comment on, etc. =20

Is the SO/AC list archive now open?  Could we have the address.

Thanks,

Adam



On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:

> +1 to Norbert's view.
>=20
> Cheers!
>=20
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>=20
> On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, "Norbert Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line with =
our concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join all =
the others with the present text.
>=20
> Norbert Klein
> Cambodia
>=20
> =3D
>=20
> On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder Group, =
the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the IP =
Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other part =
of the GNSO.
>=20
> Best,
> Robin
>=20
> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
>=20
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>=20
> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross =
community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had =
previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also =
proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope =
NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>=20
> Robin,
>=20
> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not cross =
constituency.
>=20
> Adam
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Is there support from others as well?
>=20
> Thanks,
> Robin
>=20
>=20
> Begin forwarded message:
>=20
> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing =
ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>=20
> Hi everyone,
>=20
> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the =
accountability public comment and they are proposing several =
recommendations
> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a =
joint SO/AC/SG statement.
>=20
> Best Regards,
>=20
> Rafik
> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
> _______________________________________________
> PC-NCSG mailing list
> [log in to unmask]
> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>=20
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2014 08:41:27 +0200
Reply-To:     William Drake <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]>
From:         William Drake <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing
              ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
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Hi Adam

On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Adam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> My feeling is it's not appropriate for NCUC/NCSG to endorse statements =
it has not had the opportunity to review, comment on, etc. =20

Fair point as stated=85so looking at the document, do you see anything =
that is perhaps overly reflective of commercial actors=92 =
particularistic interests, insufficiently attentive to noncommercials=92 =
interests, or otherwise of concern?  If so, we could take it up with =
Keith and others and ask for tweaks before signing on.  If not, wouldn=92t=
 it make sense to sign on?
>=20
> Is the SO/AC list archive now open?  Could we have the address.

I asked again on the last call, Olivier of ALAC supported, nobody else =
commented, so it=92s not clear if staff think they have a mandate.

As noted previously, the transcripts and recordings of the monthly =
SO/AC/SG chair meetings are available (Confluence account needed) at
=
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=3Dsoaceinputfdb=
ack&title=3DEvent+Calendar.  They are supposed to be coordination and =
info sharing discussions, not an off-the-books decision making channel, =
but if there are concerns about this then let=92s suggest a process, or =
at least define one for our side.  The below exchange from the last call =
may be of interest in this context.

Cheers

Bill

-------

Bill Drake:      =20

No worries, David. Just briefly, Fadi, I'm sure we all appreciate the =
intention of what you=92ve just said, and the spirit of it, it's very =
much welcome, I think it is definitely the case that more often dialogue =
and opportunities to communicate frankly with each other, about possible =
misperceptions and the accumulated understandings would be really, =
really constructive. And this mechanism that you are suggesting sounds =
like it could be useful.
=20
But one thing I want to point out, this is just perhaps, maybe, =
particularly an issue for me coming from the noncommercial side of =
things. There are some concern, I think, amongst some people in the =
community about the whole process of having this kind of shares-based =
[chairs-based] way of interacting, and we haven=92t even figured out, I =
think, ourselves how -- what the rules of the game are in some respects, =
with regard to how do other people in the community participate? What is =
the understanding as to what we can decide or tell you, and so on, what =
kind of internal coordination does each group do within its group of -- =
with each Chair, with each group before we have these discussions, and =
so on.
=20
It's getting a little bit complicated, so I think we have to,  maybe, =
sort out a little bit how we approach this, if we are going to continue =
with this mechanism. And I would say that if you are going to do these =
roundtables, which is, as I say, a constructive idea, we might want to =
consider, perhaps, including other people sometime, as well, not just =
Chairs, because if people -- we have a little bit of an issue already, =
with the fact that the SO/AC their own list is now publicly archived; a =
lot of people were asking me what's going on in this group. It's not =
transparent, what is this whole new channel that's been created for =
decision-making, how does that fit with bottom-up spirit? So, I hope we =
sort that out, and I hope we can maybe involve other more directly in =
the process too. Thanks.
=20
Fadi Chehad=E9:                =20

That's fair, Bill, and I look to your guidance. Just give me guidance, =
tell me what would work. I mean, clearly we can, obviously share with =
people that there are no decisions being made in these meetings, and =
maybe before you come to these roundtables, given that they've elected =
you to certain roles. Maybe you could seek input from them. Say, what is =
it you want us to tell Fadi and his staff to improve, so this becomes -- =
and then we will have a running list of things, and we can leave these =
things completely transparent, and transcribed. Whatever will height -- =
certainly we could have roundtables with, say, I don't know, 100 people, =
but I just think the dynamic will be different.
=20
Ability to be brutally frank and say, look, Fadi, this is a mess, and =
you need to work on it. I just need you to be comfortable doing this. So =
guide me, I'm very open, and I just to find a way, frankly, to avoid =
finding ourselves with the gulf that happened culminating in Istanbul, =
which is, if we had not all stepped back away from that abyss, frankly =
we would have been in a not very good place, certainly (inaudible) all =
of us. And I thank each one of you for the wisdom that you have =
displayed and you=92ve come to me with. And look, we are just not in a =
good place. We are not hearing each other.
=20
We don't need to get to that point again on many issues ahead of us, so =
I'm trying to find a mechanism to ensure we perform without these gulfs =
happening. And any suggestion, I'm open, and I'm committed.
>=20
>=20
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>=20
>> +1 to Norbert's view.
>>=20
>> Cheers!
>>=20
>> sent from Google nexus 4
>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>=20
>> On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, "Norbert Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line with =
our concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join all =
the others with the present text.
>>=20
>> Norbert Klein
>> Cambodia
>>=20
>> =3D
>>=20
>> On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder Group, =
the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the IP =
Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other part =
of the GNSO.
>>=20
>> Best,
>> Robin
>>=20
>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
>>=20
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>=20
>> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross =
community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had =
previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also =
proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope =
NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>>=20
>> Robin,
>>=20
>> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not =
cross constituency.
>>=20
>> Adam
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> Is there support from others as well?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>>=20
>>=20
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>=20
>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing =
ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>=20
>> Hi everyone,
>>=20
>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the =
accountability public comment and they are proposing several =
recommendations
>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a =
joint SO/AC/SG statement.
>>=20
>> Best Regards,
>>=20
>> Rafik
>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>> _______________________________________________
>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>> [log in to unmask]
>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>=20

***********************************************
William J. Drake
International Fellow & Lecturer
  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
  University of Zurich, Switzerland
Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,=20
  ICANN, www.ncuc.org
[log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists),
  www.williamdrake.org
***********************************************
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2014 16:37:31 +0900
Reply-To:     Adam <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Adam <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing
              ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
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Hi Bill,


On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:41 PM, William Drake wrote:

> Hi Adam
>=20
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Adam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>=20
>> My feeling is it's not appropriate for NCUC/NCSG to endorse =
statements it has not had the opportunity to review, comment on, etc. =20=

>=20
> Fair point as stated=85so looking at the document, do you see anything =
that is perhaps overly reflective of commercial actors=92 =
particularistic interests, insufficiently attentive to noncommercials=92 =
interests, or otherwise of concern?  If so, we could take it up with =
Keith and others and ask for tweaks before signing on.  If not, wouldn=92t=
 it make sense to sign on?


Do you agree with everything in the statement and think we should sign?=20=


36 hours is an adequate constituency review period, a fair =
interpretation of the NCUC and NCSG charters?

We (our leaders...) asked for a 21day comment period, and the first we =
hear of a comment is with less than two days left.  My concern is not =
with what other constituencies say, but with NCUC/NCSG process, which =
seems lacking.  =20

Thanks for you efforts to make the SO/AC more transparent. Appreciated, =
shame it seems to be such a battle, but thanks.

Adam





>>=20
>> Is the SO/AC list archive now open?  Could we have the address.
>=20
> I asked again on the last call, Olivier of ALAC supported, nobody else =
commented, so it=92s not clear if staff think they have a mandate.
>=20
> As noted previously, the transcripts and recordings of the monthly =
SO/AC/SG chair meetings are available (Confluence account needed) at
> =
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=3Dsoaceinputfdb=
ack&title=3DEvent+Calendar.  They are supposed to be coordination and =
info sharing discussions, not an off-the-books decision making channel, =
but if there are concerns about this then let=92s suggest a process, or =
at least define one for our side.  The below exchange from the last call =
may be of interest in this context.
>=20
> Cheers
>=20
> Bill
>=20
> -------
>=20
> Bill Drake:      =20
>=20
> No worries, David. Just briefly, Fadi, I'm sure we all appreciate the =
intention of what you=92ve just said, and the spirit of it, it's very =
much welcome, I think it is definitely the case that more often dialogue =
and opportunities to communicate frankly with each other, about possible =
misperceptions and the accumulated understandings would be really, =
really constructive. And this mechanism that you are suggesting sounds =
like it could be useful.
>=20
> But one thing I want to point out, this is just perhaps, maybe, =
particularly an issue for me coming from the noncommercial side of =
things. There are some concern, I think, amongst some people in the =
community about the whole process of having this kind of shares-based =
[chairs-based] way of interacting, and we haven=92t even figured out, I =
think, ourselves how -- what the rules of the game are in some respects, =
with regard to how do other people in the community participate? What is =
the understanding as to what we can decide or tell you, and so on, what =
kind of internal coordination does each group do within its group of -- =
with each Chair, with each group before we have these discussions, and =
so on.
>=20
> It's getting a little bit complicated, so I think we have to,  maybe, =
sort out a little bit how we approach this, if we are going to continue =
with this mechanism. And I would say that if you are going to do these =
roundtables, which is, as I say, a constructive idea, we might want to =
consider, perhaps, including other people sometime, as well, not just =
Chairs, because if people -- we have a little bit of an issue already, =
with the fact that the SO/AC their own list is now publicly archived; a =
lot of people were asking me what's going on in this group. It's not =
transparent, what is this whole new channel that's been created for =
decision-making, how does that fit with bottom-up spirit? So, I hope we =
sort that out, and I hope we can maybe involve other more directly in =
the process too. Thanks.
>=20
> Fadi Chehad=E9:                =20
>=20
> That's fair, Bill, and I look to your guidance. Just give me guidance, =
tell me what would work. I mean, clearly we can, obviously share with =
people that there are no decisions being made in these meetings, and =
maybe before you come to these roundtables, given that they've elected =
you to certain roles. Maybe you could seek input from them. Say, what is =
it you want us to tell Fadi and his staff to improve, so this becomes -- =
and then we will have a running list of things, and we can leave these =
things completely transparent, and transcribed. Whatever will height -- =
certainly we could have roundtables with, say, I don't know, 100 people, =
but I just think the dynamic will be different.
>=20
> Ability to be brutally frank and say, look, Fadi, this is a mess, and =
you need to work on it. I just need you to be comfortable doing this. So =
guide me, I'm very open, and I just to find a way, frankly, to avoid =
finding ourselves with the gulf that happened culminating in Istanbul, =
which is, if we had not all stepped back away from that abyss, frankly =
we would have been in a not very good place, certainly (inaudible) all =
of us. And I thank each one of you for the wisdom that you have =
displayed and you=92ve come to me with. And look, we are just not in a =
good place. We are not hearing each other.
>=20
> We don't need to get to that point again on many issues ahead of us, =
so I'm trying to find a mechanism to ensure we perform without these =
gulfs happening. And any suggestion, I'm open, and I'm committed.
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>=20
>>> +1 to Norbert's view.
>>>=20
>>> Cheers!
>>>=20
>>> sent from Google nexus 4
>>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>=20
>>> On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, "Norbert Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line with =
our concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join all =
the others with the present text.
>>>=20
>>> Norbert Klein
>>> Cambodia
>>>=20
>>> =3D
>>>=20
>>> On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder =
Group, the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the =
IP Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other =
part of the GNSO.
>>>=20
>>> Best,
>>> Robin
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>=20
>>> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross =
community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had =
previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also =
proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope =
NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>>>=20
>>> Robin,
>>>=20
>>> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not =
cross constituency.
>>>=20
>>> Adam
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Is there support from others as well?
>>>=20
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>=20
>>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing =
ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>>=20
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>=20
>>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the =
accountability public comment and they are proposing several =
recommendations
>>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a =
joint SO/AC/SG statement.
>>>=20
>>> Best Regards,
>>>=20
>>> Rafik
>>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>>=20
>=20
> ***********************************************
> William J. Drake
> International Fellow & Lecturer
>  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>  University of Zurich, Switzerland
> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,=20
>  ICANN, www.ncuc.org
> [log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists),
>  www.williamdrake.org
> ***********************************************
=========================================================================
Date:         Fri, 26 Sep 2014 01:38:05 -0700
Reply-To:     Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>
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From:         Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing
              ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
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Well this isn't a departure from what we said a month ago and a month =
before that.  Nothing new here that we haven't already gone over to =
exhaustion before.  Do you have any issues with the substance of the =
statement (which raises concerns NCSG raised over a month ago)?

If you have suggestions for edits, bring them forward.  Don't presume we =
can't and should just walk away.

Robin



On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Adam wrote:

> Hi Bill,
>=20
>=20
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:41 PM, William Drake wrote:
>=20
>> Hi Adam
>>=20
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Adam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>=20
>>> My feeling is it's not appropriate for NCUC/NCSG to endorse =
statements it has not had the opportunity to review, comment on, etc. =20=

>>=20
>> Fair point as stated=85so looking at the document, do you see =
anything that is perhaps overly reflective of commercial actors=92 =
particularistic interests, insufficiently attentive to noncommercials=92 =
interests, or otherwise of concern?  If so, we could take it up with =
Keith and others and ask for tweaks before signing on.  If not, wouldn=92t=
 it make sense to sign on?
>=20
>=20
> Do you agree with everything in the statement and think we should =
sign?=20
>=20
> 36 hours is an adequate constituency review period, a fair =
interpretation of the NCUC and NCSG charters?
>=20
> We (our leaders...) asked for a 21day comment period, and the first we =
hear of a comment is with less than two days left.  My concern is not =
with what other constituencies say, but with NCUC/NCSG process, which =
seems lacking.  =20
>=20
> Thanks for you efforts to make the SO/AC more transparent. =
Appreciated, shame it seems to be such a battle, but thanks.
>=20
> Adam
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>>>=20
>>> Is the SO/AC list archive now open?  Could we have the address.
>>=20
>> I asked again on the last call, Olivier of ALAC supported, nobody =
else commented, so it=92s not clear if staff think they have a mandate.
>>=20
>> As noted previously, the transcripts and recordings of the monthly =
SO/AC/SG chair meetings are available (Confluence account needed) at
>> =
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=3Dsoaceinputfdb=
ack&title=3DEvent+Calendar.  They are supposed to be coordination and =
info sharing discussions, not an off-the-books decision making channel, =
but if there are concerns about this then let=92s suggest a process, or =
at least define one for our side.  The below exchange from the last call =
may be of interest in this context.
>>=20
>> Cheers
>>=20
>> Bill
>>=20
>> -------
>>=20
>> Bill Drake:      =20
>>=20
>> No worries, David. Just briefly, Fadi, I'm sure we all appreciate the =
intention of what you=92ve just said, and the spirit of it, it's very =
much welcome, I think it is definitely the case that more often dialogue =
and opportunities to communicate frankly with each other, about possible =
misperceptions and the accumulated understandings would be really, =
really constructive. And this mechanism that you are suggesting sounds =
like it could be useful.
>>=20
>> But one thing I want to point out, this is just perhaps, maybe, =
particularly an issue for me coming from the noncommercial side of =
things. There are some concern, I think, amongst some people in the =
community about the whole process of having this kind of shares-based =
[chairs-based] way of interacting, and we haven=92t even figured out, I =
think, ourselves how -- what the rules of the game are in some respects, =
with regard to how do other people in the community participate? What is =
the understanding as to what we can decide or tell you, and so on, what =
kind of internal coordination does each group do within its group of -- =
with each Chair, with each group before we have these discussions, and =
so on.
>>=20
>> It's getting a little bit complicated, so I think we have to,  maybe, =
sort out a little bit how we approach this, if we are going to continue =
with this mechanism. And I would say that if you are going to do these =
roundtables, which is, as I say, a constructive idea, we might want to =
consider, perhaps, including other people sometime, as well, not just =
Chairs, because if people -- we have a little bit of an issue already, =
with the fact that the SO/AC their own list is now publicly archived; a =
lot of people were asking me what's going on in this group. It's not =
transparent, what is this whole new channel that's been created for =
decision-making, how does that fit with bottom-up spirit? So, I hope we =
sort that out, and I hope we can maybe involve other more directly in =
the process too. Thanks.
>>=20
>> Fadi Chehad=E9:                =20
>>=20
>> That's fair, Bill, and I look to your guidance. Just give me =
guidance, tell me what would work. I mean, clearly we can, obviously =
share with people that there are no decisions being made in these =
meetings, and maybe before you come to these roundtables, given that =
they've elected you to certain roles. Maybe you could seek input from =
them. Say, what is it you want us to tell Fadi and his staff to improve, =
so this becomes -- and then we will have a running list of things, and =
we can leave these things completely transparent, and transcribed. =
Whatever will height -- certainly we could have roundtables with, say, I =
don't know, 100 people, but I just think the dynamic will be different.
>>=20
>> Ability to be brutally frank and say, look, Fadi, this is a mess, and =
you need to work on it. I just need you to be comfortable doing this. So =
guide me, I'm very open, and I just to find a way, frankly, to avoid =
finding ourselves with the gulf that happened culminating in Istanbul, =
which is, if we had not all stepped back away from that abyss, frankly =
we would have been in a not very good place, certainly (inaudible) all =
of us. And I thank each one of you for the wisdom that you have =
displayed and you=92ve come to me with. And look, we are just not in a =
good place. We are not hearing each other.
>>=20
>> We don't need to get to that point again on many issues ahead of us, =
so I'm trying to find a mechanism to ensure we perform without these =
gulfs happening. And any suggestion, I'm open, and I'm committed.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> +1 to Norbert's view.
>>>>=20
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>=20
>>>> sent from Google nexus 4
>>>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>>=20
>>>> On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, "Norbert Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line =
with our concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join =
all the others with the present text.
>>>>=20
>>>> Norbert Klein
>>>> Cambodia
>>>>=20
>>>> =3D
>>>>=20
>>>> On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder =
Group, the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the =
IP Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other =
part of the GNSO.
>>>>=20
>>>> Best,
>>>> Robin
>>>>=20
>>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross =
community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had =
previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also =
proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope =
NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>>>>=20
>>>> Robin,
>>>>=20
>>>> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not =
cross constituency.
>>>>=20
>>>> Adam
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Is there support from others as well?
>>>>=20
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Robin
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>=20
>>>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing =
ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>>>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>>>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>=20
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>=20
>>>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the =
accountability public comment and they are proposing several =
recommendations
>>>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a =
joint SO/AC/SG statement.
>>>>=20
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>=20
>>>> Rafik
>>>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>>>=20
>>=20
>> ***********************************************
>> William J. Drake
>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,=20
>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org
>> [log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists),
>> www.williamdrake.org
>> ***********************************************
>=20


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              ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
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On Sep 26, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Robin Gross wrote:

> Well this isn't a departure from what we said a month ago and a month =
before that. =20


It's a new statement. =20

Adam


> Nothing new here that we haven't already gone over to exhaustion =
before.  Do you have any issues with the substance of the statement =
(which raises concerns NCSG raised over a month ago)?
>=20
> If you have suggestions for edits, bring them forward.  Don't presume =
we can't and should just walk away.
>=20
> Robin
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Adam wrote:
>=20
>> Hi Bill,
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:41 PM, William Drake wrote:
>>=20
>>> Hi Adam
>>>=20
>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Adam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> My feeling is it's not appropriate for NCUC/NCSG to endorse =
statements it has not had the opportunity to review, comment on, etc. =20=

>>>=20
>>> Fair point as stated=85so looking at the document, do you see =
anything that is perhaps overly reflective of commercial actors=92 =
particularistic interests, insufficiently attentive to noncommercials=92 =
interests, or otherwise of concern?  If so, we could take it up with =
Keith and others and ask for tweaks before signing on.  If not, wouldn=92t=
 it make sense to sign on?
>>=20
>>=20
>> Do you agree with everything in the statement and think we should =
sign?=20
>>=20
>> 36 hours is an adequate constituency review period, a fair =
interpretation of the NCUC and NCSG charters?
>>=20
>> We (our leaders...) asked for a 21day comment period, and the first =
we hear of a comment is with less than two days left.  My concern is not =
with what other constituencies say, but with NCUC/NCSG process, which =
seems lacking.  =20
>>=20
>> Thanks for you efforts to make the SO/AC more transparent. =
Appreciated, shame it seems to be such a battle, but thanks.
>>=20
>> Adam
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Is the SO/AC list archive now open?  Could we have the address.
>>>=20
>>> I asked again on the last call, Olivier of ALAC supported, nobody =
else commented, so it=92s not clear if staff think they have a mandate.
>>>=20
>>> As noted previously, the transcripts and recordings of the monthly =
SO/AC/SG chair meetings are available (Confluence account needed) at
>>> =
https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=3Dsoaceinputfdb=
ack&title=3DEvent+Calendar.  They are supposed to be coordination and =
info sharing discussions, not an off-the-books decision making channel, =
but if there are concerns about this then let=92s suggest a process, or =
at least define one for our side.  The below exchange from the last call =
may be of interest in this context.
>>>=20
>>> Cheers
>>>=20
>>> Bill
>>>=20
>>> -------
>>>=20
>>> Bill Drake:      =20
>>>=20
>>> No worries, David. Just briefly, Fadi, I'm sure we all appreciate =
the intention of what you=92ve just said, and the spirit of it, it's =
very much welcome, I think it is definitely the case that more often =
dialogue and opportunities to communicate frankly with each other, about =
possible misperceptions and the accumulated understandings would be =
really, really constructive. And this mechanism that you are suggesting =
sounds like it could be useful.
>>>=20
>>> But one thing I want to point out, this is just perhaps, maybe, =
particularly an issue for me coming from the noncommercial side of =
things. There are some concern, I think, amongst some people in the =
community about the whole process of having this kind of shares-based =
[chairs-based] way of interacting, and we haven=92t even figured out, I =
think, ourselves how -- what the rules of the game are in some respects, =
with regard to how do other people in the community participate? What is =
the understanding as to what we can decide or tell you, and so on, what =
kind of internal coordination does each group do within its group of -- =
with each Chair, with each group before we have these discussions, and =
so on.
>>>=20
>>> It's getting a little bit complicated, so I think we have to,  =
maybe, sort out a little bit how we approach this, if we are going to =
continue with this mechanism. And I would say that if you are going to =
do these roundtables, which is, as I say, a constructive idea, we might =
want to consider, perhaps, including other people sometime, as well, not =
just Chairs, because if people -- we have a little bit of an issue =
already, with the fact that the SO/AC their own list is now publicly =
archived; a lot of people were asking me what's going on in this group. =
It's not transparent, what is this whole new channel that's been created =
for decision-making, how does that fit with bottom-up spirit? So, I hope =
we sort that out, and I hope we can maybe involve other more directly in =
the process too. Thanks.
>>>=20
>>> Fadi Chehad=E9:                =20
>>>=20
>>> That's fair, Bill, and I look to your guidance. Just give me =
guidance, tell me what would work. I mean, clearly we can, obviously =
share with people that there are no decisions being made in these =
meetings, and maybe before you come to these roundtables, given that =
they've elected you to certain roles. Maybe you could seek input from =
them. Say, what is it you want us to tell Fadi and his staff to improve, =
so this becomes -- and then we will have a running list of things, and =
we can leave these things completely transparent, and transcribed. =
Whatever will height -- certainly we could have roundtables with, say, I =
don't know, 100 people, but I just think the dynamic will be different.
>>>=20
>>> Ability to be brutally frank and say, look, Fadi, this is a mess, =
and you need to work on it. I just need you to be comfortable doing =
this. So guide me, I'm very open, and I just to find a way, frankly, to =
avoid finding ourselves with the gulf that happened culminating in =
Istanbul, which is, if we had not all stepped back away from that abyss, =
frankly we would have been in a not very good place, certainly =
(inaudible) all of us. And I thank each one of you for the wisdom that =
you have displayed and you=92ve come to me with. And look, we are just =
not in a good place. We are not hearing each other.
>>>=20
>>> We don't need to get to that point again on many issues ahead of us, =
so I'm trying to find a mechanism to ensure we perform without these =
gulfs happening. And any suggestion, I'm open, and I'm committed.
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>>> +1 to Norbert's view.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> sent from Google nexus 4
>>>>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, "Norbert Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line =
with our concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join =
all the others with the present text.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Norbert Klein
>>>>> Cambodia
>>>>>=20
>>>>> =3D
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>>> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder =
Group, the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the =
IP Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other =
part of the GNSO.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross =
community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had =
previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also =
proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope =
NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Robin,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not =
cross constituency.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Adam
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Is there support from others as well?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Robin
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's =
Enhancing ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>>>>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>>>>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the =
accountability public comment and they are proposing several =
recommendations
>>>>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a =
joint SO/AC/SG statement.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Rafik
>>>>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> ***********************************************
>>> William J. Drake
>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,=20
>>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org
>>> [log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists),
>>> www.williamdrake.org
>>> ***********************************************
>>=20
>=20
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Hi,

lets go back to some basics here,
Keith from registries stakeholder group shared the statement and asked if
we can have a joint statement  between all ICANN groups. we have such
document to review, to comment and suggesting concrete and specific tweaks.
We are in consultation mode and see how we can go from there since no
decision was discussed or made. nobody said that we will endorse it in the
next 2 hours!!

I think there is enough understanding that consultation within different
groups takes time and need to be done properly. lets focus in substance and
found if there is any point we disagree with in the statement and tell
other ICANN groups.

Rafik

2014-09-26 18:15 GMT+09:00 Adam <[log in to unmask]>:

> On Sep 26, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>
> > Well this isn't a departure from what we said a month ago and a month
> before that.
>
>
> It's a new statement.
>
> Adam
>
>
> > Nothing new here that we haven't already gone over to exhaustion
> before.  Do you have any issues with the substance of the statement (whic=
h
> raises concerns NCSG raised over a month ago)?
> >
> > If you have suggestions for edits, bring them forward.  Don't presume w=
e
> can't and should just walk away.
> >
> > Robin
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Adam wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Bill,
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:41 PM, William Drake wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Adam
> >>>
> >>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Adam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My feeling is it's not appropriate for NCUC/NCSG to endorse
> statements it has not had the opportunity to review, comment on, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Fair point as stated=E2=80=A6so looking at the document, do you see a=
nything
> that is perhaps overly reflective of commercial actors=E2=80=99 particula=
ristic
> interests, insufficiently attentive to noncommercials=E2=80=99 interests,=
 or
> otherwise of concern?  If so, we could take it up with Keith and others a=
nd
> ask for tweaks before signing on.  If not, wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense=
 to sign
> on?
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you agree with everything in the statement and think we should sign=
?
> >>
> >> 36 hours is an adequate constituency review period, a fair
> interpretation of the NCUC and NCSG charters?
> >>
> >> We (our leaders...) asked for a 21day comment period, and the first we
> hear of a comment is with less than two days left.  My concern is not wit=
h
> what other constituencies say, but with NCUC/NCSG process, which seems
> lacking.
> >>
> >> Thanks for you efforts to make the SO/AC more transparent. Appreciated=
,
> shame it seems to be such a battle, but thanks.
> >>
> >> Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Is the SO/AC list archive now open?  Could we have the address.
> >>>
> >>> I asked again on the last call, Olivier of ALAC supported, nobody els=
e
> commented, so it=E2=80=99s not clear if staff think they have a mandate.
> >>>
> >>> As noted previously, the transcripts and recordings of the monthly
> SO/AC/SG chair meetings are available (Confluence account needed) at
> >>>
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=3Dsoaceinputfd=
back&title=3DEvent+Calendar.
> They are supposed to be coordination and info sharing discussions, not an
> off-the-books decision making channel, but if there are concerns about th=
is
> then let=E2=80=99s suggest a process, or at least define one for our side=
.  The
> below exchange from the last call may be of interest in this context.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Bill
> >>>
> >>> -------
> >>>
> >>> Bill Drake:
> >>>
> >>> No worries, David. Just briefly, Fadi, I'm sure we all appreciate the
> intention of what you=E2=80=99ve just said, and the spirit of it, it's ve=
ry much
> welcome, I think it is definitely the case that more often dialogue and
> opportunities to communicate frankly with each other, about possible
> misperceptions and the accumulated understandings would be really, really
> constructive. And this mechanism that you are suggesting sounds like it
> could be useful.
> >>>
> >>> But one thing I want to point out, this is just perhaps, maybe,
> particularly an issue for me coming from the noncommercial side of things=
.
> There are some concern, I think, amongst some people in the community abo=
ut
> the whole process of having this kind of shares-based [chairs-based] way =
of
> interacting, and we haven=E2=80=99t even figured out, I think, ourselves =
how --
> what the rules of the game are in some respects, with regard to how do
> other people in the community participate? What is the understanding as t=
o
> what we can decide or tell you, and so on, what kind of internal
> coordination does each group do within its group of -- with each Chair,
> with each group before we have these discussions, and so on.
> >>>
> >>> It's getting a little bit complicated, so I think we have to,  maybe,
> sort out a little bit how we approach this, if we are going to continue
> with this mechanism. And I would say that if you are going to do these
> roundtables, which is, as I say, a constructive idea, we might want to
> consider, perhaps, including other people sometime, as well, not just
> Chairs, because if people -- we have a little bit of an issue already, wi=
th
> the fact that the SO/AC their own list is now publicly archived; a lot of
> people were asking me what's going on in this group. It's not transparent=
,
> what is this whole new channel that's been created for decision-making, h=
ow
> does that fit with bottom-up spirit? So, I hope we sort that out, and I
> hope we can maybe involve other more directly in the process too. Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Fadi Chehad=C3=A9:
> >>>
> >>> That's fair, Bill, and I look to your guidance. Just give me guidance=
,
> tell me what would work. I mean, clearly we can, obviously share with
> people that there are no decisions being made in these meetings, and mayb=
e
> before you come to these roundtables, given that they've elected you to
> certain roles. Maybe you could seek input from them. Say, what is it you
> want us to tell Fadi and his staff to improve, so this becomes -- and the=
n
> we will have a running list of things, and we can leave these things
> completely transparent, and transcribed. Whatever will height -- certainl=
y
> we could have roundtables with, say, I don't know, 100 people, but I just
> think the dynamic will be different.
> >>>
> >>> Ability to be brutally frank and say, look, Fadi, this is a mess, and
> you need to work on it. I just need you to be comfortable doing this. So
> guide me, I'm very open, and I just to find a way, frankly, to avoid
> finding ourselves with the gulf that happened culminating in Istanbul,
> which is, if we had not all stepped back away from that abyss, frankly we
> would have been in a not very good place, certainly (inaudible) all of us=
.
> And I thank each one of you for the wisdom that you have displayed and
> you=E2=80=99ve come to me with. And look, we are just not in a good place=
. We are
> not hearing each other.
> >>>
> >>> We don't need to get to that point again on many issues ahead of us,
> so I'm trying to find a mechanism to ensure we perform without these gulf=
s
> happening. And any suggestion, I'm open, and I'm committed.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1 to Norbert's view.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> sent from Google nexus 4
> >>>>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, "Norbert Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>> If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line wit=
h
> our concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join all t=
he
> others with the present text.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Norbert Klein
> >>>>> Cambodia
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =3D
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
> >>>>> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder
> Group, the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the IP
> Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other part o=
f
> the GNSO.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>> Robin
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross
> community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we had
> previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also
> proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hope
> NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Robin,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not
> cross constituency.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adam
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is there support from others as well?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Robin
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing
> ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
> >>>>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
> >>>>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi everyone,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the
> accountability public comment and they are proposing several recommendati=
ons
> >>>>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop a
> joint SO/AC/SG statement.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Rafik
> >>>>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
> >>>>> [log in to unmask]
> >>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> ***********************************************
> >>> William J. Drake
> >>> International Fellow & Lecturer
> >>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
> >>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
> >>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
> >>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org
> >>> [log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists),
> >>> www.williamdrake.org
> >>> ***********************************************
> >>
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Hi,</div><div class=3D"gmail_ex=
tra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">lets go back to some basics here,=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Keith from registries stakeholder gr=
oup shared the statement and asked if we can have a joint statement =C2=A0b=
etween all ICANN groups. we have such document to review, to comment and su=
ggesting concrete and specific tweaks. We are in consultation mode and see =
how we can go from there since no decision was discussed or made. nobody sa=
id that we will endorse it in the next 2 hours!!</div><div class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I think there is enough understa=
nding that consultation within different groups takes time and need to be d=
one properly. lets focus in substance and found if there is any point we di=
sagree with in the statement and tell other ICANN groups.</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-09-26 18:15 GMT+09:00 Adam <span dir=3D=
"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]
ac.jp</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On Sep 26, 20=
14, at 5:38 PM, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; Well this isn&#39;t a departure from what we said a month ago and a mo=
nth before that.<br>
<br>
<br>
</span>It&#39;s a new statement.<br>
<span><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Adam<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
<br>
&gt; Nothing new here that we haven&#39;t already gone over to exhaustion b=
efore.=C2=A0 Do you have any issues with the substance of the statement (wh=
ich raises concerns NCSG raised over a month ago)?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; If you have suggestions for edits, bring them forward.=C2=A0 Don&#39;t=
 presume we can&#39;t and should just walk away.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Robin<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Adam wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi Bill,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:41 PM, William Drake wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Adam<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Adam &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ajp@gl=
ocom.ac.jp" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; My feeling is it&#39;s not appropriate for NCUC/NCSG to en=
dorse statements it has not had the opportunity to review, comment on, etc.=
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Fair point as stated=E2=80=A6so looking at the document, do yo=
u see anything that is perhaps overly reflective of commercial actors=E2=80=
=99 particularistic interests, insufficiently attentive to noncommercials=
=E2=80=99 interests, or otherwise of concern?=C2=A0 If so, we could take it=
 up with Keith and others and ask for tweaks before signing on.=C2=A0 If no=
t, wouldn=E2=80=99t it make sense to sign on?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Do you agree with everything in the statement and think we should =
sign?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; 36 hours is an adequate constituency review period, a fair interpr=
etation of the NCUC and NCSG charters?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; We (our leaders...) asked for a 21day comment period, and the firs=
t we hear of a comment is with less than two days left.=C2=A0 My concern is=
 not with what other constituencies say, but with NCUC/NCSG process, which =
seems lacking.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Thanks for you efforts to make the SO/AC more transparent. Appreci=
ated, shame it seems to be such a battle, but thanks.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Adam<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is the SO/AC list archive now open?=C2=A0 Could we have th=
e address.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; I asked again on the last call, Olivier of ALAC supported, nob=
ody else commented, so it=E2=80=99s not clear if staff think they have a ma=
ndate.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; As noted previously, the transcripts and recordings of the mon=
thly SO/AC/SG chair meetings are available (Confluence account needed) at<b=
r>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?s=
paceKey=3Dsoaceinputfdback&amp;title=3DEvent+Calendar" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=3Dsoaceinputfdback=
&amp;title=3DEvent+Calendar</a>.=C2=A0 They are supposed to be coordination=
 and info sharing discussions, not an off-the-books decision making channel=
, but if there are concerns about this then let=E2=80=99s suggest a process=
, or at least define one for our side.=C2=A0 The below exchange from the la=
st call may be of interest in this context.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Bill<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; -------<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Bill Drake:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; No worries, David. Just briefly, Fadi, I&#39;m sure we all app=
reciate the intention of what you=E2=80=99ve just said, and the spirit of i=
t, it&#39;s very much welcome, I think it is definitely the case that more =
often dialogue and opportunities to communicate frankly with each other, ab=
out possible misperceptions and the accumulated understandings would be rea=
lly, really constructive. And this mechanism that you are suggesting sounds=
 like it could be useful.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; But one thing I want to point out, this is just perhaps, maybe=
, particularly an issue for me coming from the noncommercial side of things=
. There are some concern, I think, amongst some people in the community abo=
ut the whole process of having this kind of shares-based [chairs-based] way=
 of interacting, and we haven=E2=80=99t even figured out, I think, ourselve=
s how -- what the rules of the game are in some respects, with regard to ho=
w do other people in the community participate? What is the understanding a=
s to what we can decide or tell you, and so on, what kind of internal coord=
ination does each group do within its group of -- with each Chair, with eac=
h group before we have these discussions, and so on.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; It&#39;s getting a little bit complicated, so I think we have =
to,=C2=A0 maybe, sort out a little bit how we approach this, if we are goin=
g to continue with this mechanism. And I would say that if you are going to=
 do these roundtables, which is, as I say, a constructive idea, we might wa=
nt to consider, perhaps, including other people sometime, as well, not just=
 Chairs, because if people -- we have a little bit of an issue already, wit=
h the fact that the SO/AC their own list is now publicly archived; a lot of=
 people were asking me what&#39;s going on in this group. It&#39;s not tran=
sparent, what is this whole new channel that&#39;s been created for decisio=
n-making, how does that fit with bottom-up spirit? So, I hope we sort that =
out, and I hope we can maybe involve other more directly in the process too=
. Thanks.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Fadi Chehad=C3=A9:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; That&#39;s fair, Bill, and I look to your guidance. Just give =
me guidance, tell me what would work. I mean, clearly we can, obviously sha=
re with people that there are no decisions being made in these meetings, an=
d maybe before you come to these roundtables, given that they&#39;ve electe=
d you to certain roles. Maybe you could seek input from them. Say, what is =
it you want us to tell Fadi and his staff to improve, so this becomes -- an=
d then we will have a running list of things, and we can leave these things=
 completely transparent, and transcribed. Whatever will height -- certainly=
 we could have roundtables with, say, I don&#39;t know, 100 people, but I j=
ust think the dynamic will be different.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Ability to be brutally frank and say, look, Fadi, this is a me=
ss, and you need to work on it. I just need you to be comfortable doing thi=
s. So guide me, I&#39;m very open, and I just to find a way, frankly, to av=
oid finding ourselves with the gulf that happened culminating in Istanbul, =
which is, if we had not all stepped back away from that abyss, frankly we w=
ould have been in a not very good place, certainly (inaudible) all of us. A=
nd I thank each one of you for the wisdom that you have displayed and you=
=E2=80=99ve come to me with. And look, we are just not in a good place. We =
are not hearing each other.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; We don&#39;t need to get to that point again on many issues ah=
ead of us, so I&#39;m trying to find a mechanism to ensure we perform witho=
ut these gulfs happening. And any suggestion, I&#39;m open, and I&#39;m com=
mitted.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; +1 to Norbert&#39;s view.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cheers!<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; sent from Google nexus 4<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; kindly excuse brevity and typos.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, &quot;Norbert Klein&quot; &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seem=
s in line with our concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, b=
ut join all the others with the present text.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Norbert Klein<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Cambodia<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; =3D<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Sta=
keholder Group, the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency,=
 the IP Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.=C2=A0 So NCSG is the only o=
ther part of the GNSO.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Best,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Robin<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.=C2=A0 I think th=
is draft cross community submission is great and addresses many of the conc=
erns we had previously raised with ICANN&#39;s current accountability plan.=
=C2=A0 It also proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this proce=
ss.=C2=A0 I hope NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Robin,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; the statement&#39;s from the Registries Stakeholder Gr=
oup (RySG) not cross constituency.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Adam<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Is there support from others as well?<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Robin<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Begin forwarded message:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: Rafik Dammak &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rafik.dammak@=
gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICAN=
N&#39;s Enhancing ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: NCSG-Policy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:PC-NCSG@ipjustic=
e.org" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi everyone,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; you find attached the comment from registries SG for t=
he accountability public comment and they are proposing several recommendat=
ions<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Keith their representative is asking if we would like =
to develop a joint SO/AC/SG statement.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Best Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Rafik<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Cle=
an.docx&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; PC-NCSG mailing list<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[log in to unmask]</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-nc=
sg" target=3D"_blank">http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; ***********************************************<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; William J. Drake<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; International Fellow &amp; Lecturer<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Media Change &amp; Innovation Division, IPMZ<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; University of Zurich, Switzerland<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; ICANN, <a href=3D"http://www.ncuc.org" target=3D"_blank">www.n=
cuc.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">will=
[log in to unmask]</a> (direct), <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=
=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a> (lists),<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.williamdrake.org" target=3D"_blank">www.=
williamdrake.org</a><br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; ***********************************************<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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From:         Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Re: [] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing ICANN
              Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
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Hi,

I find I do not share the same zeal others have for some of the points
on the joint statement list.  I wish it focused more on Scope and
Approval and less on varying formulas for building open community efforts.

I have lots of issues with what is written.  I agree with Adam in
thinking the claim that we have figured out how to do Cross Community
Working Groups (CCWG) is a bit premature.  Beyond what Adam has said, we
do not have a good method for initiating such a group. This one is Board
initiated; why is that so bad?  I think that while a working group (WG)
should have change control of their charter, starting with a draft
charter someone else prepares is ok.  And I think having the chartering
organization(s) approve the charter is also ok.  In this case, I would
recommend that the Supporting Organizations & Advisory Committees (SOAC)
& the Board can approve any charter, if they wish.  But CCWGs should be
the ones that have change control of their charters. I will possibly
send in an individual comment to that effect.  Others who have their own
points of view  should consider their own brief comments.

But I also see value in working with the other Supporting Organizations
& Advisory Committees (SOAC) & GNSO Stakeholder groups (SG).  Given that
the NCSG has not prepared its own comment, and has been working with the
rest of SOAC & SGs this far on statements, not doing so now is probably
a political statement we don't want to make. We should probably join the
rest of them in this too.

As time runs out today/tomorrow, I think we should sign on.

avri

On 26-Sep-14 07:39, Rafik Dammak wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> lets go back to some basics here,
> Keith from registries stakeholder group shared the statement and asked =
if
> we can have a joint statement  between all ICANN groups. we have such
> document to review, to comment and suggesting concrete and specific twe=
aks.
> We are in consultation mode and see how we can go from there since no
> decision was discussed or made. nobody said that we will endorse it in =
the
> next 2 hours!!
>=20
> I think there is enough understanding that consultation within differen=
t
> groups takes time and need to be done properly. lets focus in substance=
 and
> found if there is any point we disagree with in the statement and tell
> other ICANN groups.
>=20
> Rafik
>=20
> 2014-09-26 18:15 GMT+09:00 Adam <[log in to unmask]>:
>=20
>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>
>>> Well this isn't a departure from what we said a month ago and a month
>> before that.
>>
>>
>> It's a new statement.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
>>> Nothing new here that we haven't already gone over to exhaustion
>> before.  Do you have any issues with the substance of the statement (w=
hich
>> raises concerns NCSG raised over a month ago)?
>>>
>>> If you have suggestions for edits, bring them forward.  Don't presume=
 we
>> can't and should just walk away.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:37 AM, Adam wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bill,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 3:41 PM, William Drake wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Adam
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 6:18 AM, Adam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My feeling is it's not appropriate for NCUC/NCSG to endorse
>> statements it has not had the opportunity to review, comment on, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fair point as stated=E2=80=A6so looking at the document, do you see=
 anything
>> that is perhaps overly reflective of commercial actors=E2=80=99 partic=
ularistic
>> interests, insufficiently attentive to noncommercials=E2=80=99 interes=
ts, or
>> otherwise of concern?  If so, we could take it up with Keith and other=
s and
>> ask for tweaks before signing on.  If not, wouldn=E2=80=99t it make se=
nse to sign
>> on?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do you agree with everything in the statement and think we should si=
gn?
>>>>
>>>> 36 hours is an adequate constituency review period, a fair
>> interpretation of the NCUC and NCSG charters?
>>>>
>>>> We (our leaders...) asked for a 21day comment period, and the first =
we
>> hear of a comment is with less than two days left.  My concern is not =
with
>> what other constituencies say, but with NCUC/NCSG process, which seems
>> lacking.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for you efforts to make the SO/AC more transparent. Appreciat=
ed,
>> shame it seems to be such a battle, but thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Adam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the SO/AC list archive now open?  Could we have the address.
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked again on the last call, Olivier of ALAC supported, nobody e=
lse
>> commented, so it=E2=80=99s not clear if staff think they have a mandat=
e.
>>>>>
>>>>> As noted previously, the transcripts and recordings of the monthly
>> SO/AC/SG chair meetings are available (Confluence account needed) at
>>>>>
>> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?spaceKey=3Dsoaceinpu=
tfdback&title=3DEvent+Calendar.
>> They are supposed to be coordination and info sharing discussions, not=
 an
>> off-the-books decision making channel, but if there are concerns about=
 this
>> then let=E2=80=99s suggest a process, or at least define one for our s=
ide.  The
>> below exchange from the last call may be of interest in this context.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>>
>>>>> -------
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Drake:
>>>>>
>>>>> No worries, David. Just briefly, Fadi, I'm sure we all appreciate t=
he
>> intention of what you=E2=80=99ve just said, and the spirit of it, it's=
 very much
>> welcome, I think it is definitely the case that more often dialogue an=
d
>> opportunities to communicate frankly with each other, about possible
>> misperceptions and the accumulated understandings would be really, rea=
lly
>> constructive. And this mechanism that you are suggesting sounds like i=
t
>> could be useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> But one thing I want to point out, this is just perhaps, maybe,
>> particularly an issue for me coming from the noncommercial side of thi=
ngs.
>> There are some concern, I think, amongst some people in the community =
about
>> the whole process of having this kind of shares-based [chairs-based] w=
ay of
>> interacting, and we haven=E2=80=99t even figured out, I think, ourselv=
es how --
>> what the rules of the game are in some respects, with regard to how do
>> other people in the community participate? What is the understanding a=
s to
>> what we can decide or tell you, and so on, what kind of internal
>> coordination does each group do within its group of -- with each Chair=
,
>> with each group before we have these discussions, and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's getting a little bit complicated, so I think we have to,  mayb=
e,
>> sort out a little bit how we approach this, if we are going to continu=
e
>> with this mechanism. And I would say that if you are going to do these
>> roundtables, which is, as I say, a constructive idea, we might want to
>> consider, perhaps, including other people sometime, as well, not just
>> Chairs, because if people -- we have a little bit of an issue already,=
 with
>> the fact that the SO/AC their own list is now publicly archived; a lot=
 of
>> people were asking me what's going on in this group. It's not transpar=
ent,
>> what is this whole new channel that's been created for decision-making=
, how
>> does that fit with bottom-up spirit? So, I hope we sort that out, and =
I
>> hope we can maybe involve other more directly in the process too. Than=
ks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fadi Chehad=C3=A9:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's fair, Bill, and I look to your guidance. Just give me guidan=
ce,
>> tell me what would work. I mean, clearly we can, obviously share with
>> people that there are no decisions being made in these meetings, and m=
aybe
>> before you come to these roundtables, given that they've elected you t=
o
>> certain roles. Maybe you could seek input from them. Say, what is it y=
ou
>> want us to tell Fadi and his staff to improve, so this becomes -- and =
then
>> we will have a running list of things, and we can leave these things
>> completely transparent, and transcribed. Whatever will height -- certa=
inly
>> we could have roundtables with, say, I don't know, 100 people, but I j=
ust
>> think the dynamic will be different.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ability to be brutally frank and say, look, Fadi, this is a mess, a=
nd
>> you need to work on it. I just need you to be comfortable doing this. =
So
>> guide me, I'm very open, and I just to find a way, frankly, to avoid
>> finding ourselves with the gulf that happened culminating in Istanbul,
>> which is, if we had not all stepped back away from that abyss, frankly=
 we
>> would have been in a not very good place, certainly (inaudible) all of=
 us.
>> And I thank each one of you for the wisdom that you have displayed and
>> you=E2=80=99ve come to me with. And look, we are just not in a good pl=
ace. We are
>> not hearing each other.
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't need to get to that point again on many issues ahead of us=
,
>> so I'm trying to find a mechanism to ensure we perform without these g=
ulfs
>> happening. And any suggestion, I'm open, and I'm committed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 12:14 PM, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 to Norbert's view.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sent from Google nexus 4
>>>>>>> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 26 Sep 2014 04:03, "Norbert Klein" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>> If NCSG is the only one not yet signed, and as it seems in line w=
ith
>> our concern, I suggest that we do not try to make changes, but join al=
l the
>> others with the present text.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Norbert Klein
>>>>>>> Cambodia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> =3D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/26/2014 9:58 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>>>>> Actually, the stmt is being signed by the Registry Stakeholder
>> Group, the Registrar Stakeholder Group, the Business Constituency, the=
 IP
>> Constituency, and the ISP Constituency.  So NCSG is the only other par=
t of
>> the GNSO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 25, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Adam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 7:31 AM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for passing this along, Rafik.  I think this draft cross
>> community submission is great and addresses many of the concerns we ha=
d
>> previously raised with ICANN's current accountability plan.  It also
>> proposes a few concrete suggestions for improving this process.  I hop=
e
>> NCSG will endorse this cross community statement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robin,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the statement's from the Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) not
>> cross constituency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there support from others as well?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Robin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Rafik Dammak <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> Subject: [PC-NCSG] Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhanci=
ng
>> ICANN Accountabitliy Plan / Registries comments
>>>>>>> Date: September 25, 2014 7:09:46 AM PDT
>>>>>>> To: NCSG-Policy <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you find attached the comment from registries SG for the
>> accountability public comment and they are proposing several recommend=
ations
>>>>>>> Keith their representative is asking if we would like to develop =
a
>> joint SO/AC/SG statement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rafik
>>>>>>> <ICANN RySG Accountability Response v10 23 2014 Clean.docx>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> PC-NCSG mailing list
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ***********************************************
>>>>> William J. Drake
>>>>> International Fellow & Lecturer
>>>>> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
>>>>> University of Zurich, Switzerland
>>>>> Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,
>>>>> ICANN, www.ncuc.org
>>>>> [log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists),
>>>>> www.williamdrake.org
>>>>> ***********************************************
>>>>
>>>
>>
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On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Given that
> the NCSG has not prepared its own comment, and has been working with =
the
> rest of SOAC & SGs this far on statements, not doing so now is =
probably
> a political statement we don't want to make.


That=92d be my bottom line as well.

Bill=

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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;">the NCSG has not prepared its own comment, and has been =
working with the</span><br style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
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style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
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line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline =
!important;">rest of SOAC &amp; SGs this far on statements, not doing so =
now is probably</span><br style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: =
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make.</span></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>That=92d be my bottom =
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NCSG colleagues,

Following last week's exchanges about how we handle membership 
applications and manage the membership databases NPOC offered to explore 
the those issues that could be addressed within the Charters of NCSG, 
NCUC and NPOC, and come back with some comments and suggestions. Here 
are the comments and suggestions, as a contribution to doing two simple 
things better. For the record, I am primary author of the comments.

  Sam L.
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*NPOC Comments on Improving the Handling of Membership Applications and 
the Management of the Membership Database:*

NPOC will open discussion on several issues in this comment, and suggest 
ways forward to greater clarity in the membership application process, 
and ways forward on the simple technical issue of maintaining NCSG, NCUC 
and NPOC membership data bases.

Revising and improving how we handle the membership application process 
and membership databases are technical issues within the existing 
charters of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC and need to be kept separate from other 
membership issues that are charter related. This comment deals with the 
application process and the membership databases.

Briefly reviewing the membership process, applicants apply for 
membership in the NCSG stakeholders group, and may (are urged to) apply 
for membership in one of the two constituency groups (NCUC and NPOC). 
Within the membership guidelines any non-commercial person or 
organization can also apply to the NCUC constituency group, but only 
not-for-profit organizations can apply to the NPOC constituency group.

*The membership application process:*

If one reviews the membership information and application processes on 
ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC it is clear that a constituent interested in 
membership can be left a bit confused. There is a need for a single 
common application form, located at one or more websites, with a common 
return to relevant membership committees, initially for NCSG 
consideration and NCUC/NPOC information, and subsequently for NCUC/NPOC 
consideration.

There is also a need for more clarity about the membership options, and 
for fields within the common form that allow an applicant to at that 
time request (or not request) subsequent consideration for NCUC or NPOC 
membership. This is a well-defined task that could be addressed by a 
small ad hoc committee made up of ICANN staff and NCSG, NCUC and NPOC 
members. Such committee would not address membership issues that are 
Charter issues but could identify and report such issues back to NCSG.

*Maintaining the membership database:*

NCSG, NCUC and NPOC are part of ICANN and should be using Internet best 
practices for maintaining usable and up to date membership information. 
There are existing Internet best practices that can be drawn on to 
achieve those objectives.

First, from a technical standpoint, from a user standpoint, and as 
reflected in the expressed views of Internet savvy NCSG members, there 
should be one master NCSG database with fields indicating NCUC and NPOC 
membership. This would allow those with approval the ability to access 
one or more of the NCSG, NCUC and NPOC views of the database.

The majority of the fields in the membership database should be 
populated directly by field information from the membership application 
form. NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC may wish additional fields, either embedded 
in the overall NCSG database or added as custom fields to an extracted 
subset of membership data, possibly for special events or initiatives. 
The master NCSG database will always serve as the membership list of 
record.

There are a number of issues with regard to the management of the 
membership database that require some discussion so that NCSG can take a 
position on them. They include:

1.Dialogue between the effort to construct the proper fields for the 
membership application and the field information desired by NCSG, NCUC 
and NPOC.
2.Where should the membership database be hosted? Should it be on an 
ICANN server or elsewhere?
3.Who should have what levels of access to the membership database?
4.Should members have password protected access to their own profiles in 
order to update information (especially important for organizations)?
5.Should profile access by via the ICANN dashboard?

There may be other issues with regard to the membership application and 
the membership database that reside within the terms of reference of the 
respective NCSG, NCUC and NPOC charters. Some may come out in the 
dialogue on the issues and tasks listed in this NPOC comment.

After a NCSG dialogue on these database issues it may be appropriate to 
strike a small ad hoc team to work up a concrete proposal to make 
recommendations to address the issues

Sam Lanfranco,
Chair, NPOC Policy Committee

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    NCSG colleagues,<br>
    <br>
    Following last week's exchanges about how we handle membership
    applications and manage the membership databases NPOC offered to
    explore the those issues that could be addressed within the Charters
    of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC, and come back with some comments and
    suggestions. Here are the comments and suggestions, as a
    contribution to doing two simple things better. For the record, I am
    primary author of the comments. <br>
    <br>
    =C2=A0Sam L.<br>
    <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%"> <b>NPOC Comments on Improving the
      Handling of Membership Applications and the Management of the
      Membership Database:</b><o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>NPOC will open discussion on several issues in this comment,
    and suggest ways forward to greater clarity in the membership
    application process, and ways forward on the simple technical issue
    of maintaining NCSG, NCUC and NPOC membership data bases. <o:p></o:p>=
<small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>Revising and improving how we handle the membership
    application process and membership databases are technical issues
    within the existing charters of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC and need to be
    kept separate from other membership issues that are charter related.
    This comment deals with the application process and the membership
    databases. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>Briefly reviewing the membership process, applicants apply
    for membership in the NCSG stakeholders group, and may (are urged
    to) apply for membership in one of the two constituency groups (NCUC
    and NPOC). Within the membership guidelines any non-commercial
    person or organization can also apply to the NCUC constituency
    group, but only not-for-profit organizations can apply to the NPOC
    constituency group. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><b>The membership application process:</b><o:p></o:p><small><=
br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>If one reviews the membership information and application
    processes on ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC it is clear that a
    constituent interested in membership can be left a bit confused.
    There is a need for a single common application form, located at one
    or more websites, with a common return to relevant membership
    committees, initially for NCSG consideration and NCUC/NPOC
    information, and subsequently for NCUC/NPOC consideration. <o:p></o:p=
><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There is also a need for more clarity about the membership
    options, and for fields within the common form that allow an
    applicant to at that time request (or not request) subsequent
    consideration for NCUC or NPOC membership. This is a well-defined
    task that could be addressed by a small ad hoc committee made up of
    ICANN staff and NCSG, NCUC and NPOC members. Such committee would
    not address membership issues that are Charter issues but could
    identify and report such issues back to NCSG. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><b>Maintaining the membership database:</b><o:p></o:p><small>=
<br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>NCSG, NCUC and NPOC are part of ICANN and should be using
    Internet best practices for maintaining usable and up to date
    membership information. There are existing Internet best practices
    that can be drawn on to achieve those objectives. <o:p></o:p><small><=
br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>First, from a technical standpoint, from a user standpoint,
    and as reflected in the expressed views of Internet savvy NCSG
    members, there should be one master NCSG database with fields
    indicating NCUC and NPOC membership. This would allow those with
    approval the ability to access one or more of the NCSG, NCUC and
    NPOC views of the database. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>The majority of the fields in the membership database should
    be populated directly by field information from the membership
    application form. NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC may wish additional fields,
    either embedded in the overall NCSG database or added as custom
    fields to an extracted subset of membership data, possibly for
    special events or initiatives. The master NCSG database will always
    serve as the membership list of record. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There are a number of issues with regard to the management
    of the membership database that require some discussion so that NCSG
    can take a position on them. They include:<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><span
      style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-lat=
in"><span
        style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><=
/span>Dialogue between
    the effort to construct the proper fields for the membership
    application and the field information desired by NCSG, NCUC and
    NPOC.<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small><span
      style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-lat=
in"><span
        style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><=
/span>Where should the
    membership database be hosted? Should it be on an ICANN server or
    elsewhere?<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small><span
      style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-lat=
in"><span
        style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><=
/span>Who should have
    what levels of access to the membership database?<o:p></o:p><small><b=
r>
    </small><span
      style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-lat=
in"><span
        style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><=
/span>Should members
    have password protected access to their own profiles in order to
    update information (especially important for organizations)?<o:p></o:=
p><small><br>
    </small><span
      style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-lat=
in"><span
        style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></span><=
/span>Should profile
    access by via the ICANN dashboard?<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There may be other issues with regard to the membership
    application and the membership database that reside within the terms
    of reference of the respective NCSG, NCUC and NPOC charters. Some
    may come out in the dialogue on the issues and tasks listed in this
    NPOC comment. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>After a NCSG dialogue on these database issues it may be
    appropriate to strike a small ad hoc team to work up a concrete
    proposal to make recommendations to address the issues <o:p></o:p><sm=
all><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes"></span><o:p>Sam Lanfranco,<b=
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Hi everyone,

Avri Doria was appointed by NCSG Policy Committee as representative of NCSG
to the cross community working group on IANA transition. She will liaise
with NCSG and offered to work with other members who will join as observers=
.

as you can read below, you can join  that working group as observer by
following the instructions below.

Best Regards,

Rafik

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From: Grace Abuhamad <[log in to unmask]>
Date: 2014-09-27 2:55 GMT+09:00
Subject: [ianatransition] Call for Observers to join CWG on Naming Related
Functions
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>


To view the original post, please see
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en

Call for Observers to Join Cross Community Working Group to Develop an
IANAStewardship
Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions

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<https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en#>
<https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en#>
In Brief

The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community
Working Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA=
)
Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for
observers to join this effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a
consolidated transition proposal for the elements of the IANA Functions
relating to the Domain NameSystem.
Participating as observer

Participation in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to
members, who are appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone
interested in the work of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are
expected to actively participate and attend all meetings. The only
difference between a member and an observer is that any consensus calls or
formal decisions that may need to be made will be limited to CWG members
appointed by the chartering organizations. However, this does not take away
that it is the expectation that the CWG will operate as much as possible
with the views and consensus support of all participants in mind as the
importance of considering all input and views on this important topic is
recognized. Observers may be from a chartering organization, from a
stakeholder group or organization not represented in the CWG or currently
active within ICANN, or self-appointed.
How to join

If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad (
[log in to unmask]), or the secretariats of your Supporting
Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (members and
observers) will be listed on the CWG's webpage. All observers are also
required to submit a Statement of Interest (SOI) following the procedures
of their chartering organization, or where that is not applicable for
observers, the GNSO Procedures should be followed (see
https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg).
Next steps

The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the At-Large Advisory Committee
(ALAC), the Country Code Supporting Organization (ccNSO), the Generic Names
Supporting Organization (GNSO) and the Security and Stability Advisory
Committee (SSAC) have adopted the charter, and are in the process of
appointing members. *The CWG will have its first meeting
<https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg> (via teleconference) on 6 October at
13.00 UTC, followed by a F2F meeting in Los Angeles during
the ICANN meeting
<http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming> (scheduled
for Monday 13 October from 12.15 =E2=80=93 13.45 local time (19.15 =E2=80=
=93 22.45 UTC),
with remote participation). Both sessions will be recorded and transcribed.=
*
Background

The National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) has
requested that ICANN"convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan
to transition the U.S. government stewardship role" with regard to the
IANA Functions
and related root zone management. In making its announcement, the NTIA
specified
that the transition proposal must have broad community support and meet the
following principles:

   - Support and enhance the multistakeholder model
   - Maintain the security, stability, and resiliency of the Internet DNS
   - Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of
   the IANA services
   - Maintain the openness of the Internet.

NTIA also specified that it would not accept a proposal that replaces the
NTIA role with a government-led or an intergovernmental organization
solution.

On June 6 ICANN proposed the creation of an IANA Stewardship Transition
Coordination Group (ICG) "responsible for preparing a transition proposal
reflecting the differing needs of the various affected parties of the IANA
 functions."

It was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of
the IANA functions
should be developed by the directly affected communities, the IETF and IAB
 for IANA functions related to InternetProtocol Parameters; the NRO, the AS=
O,
and the RIRs for functions related the management and distribution of
numbering resources; and the GNSO and ccNSO for functions related to the Do=
main
NameSystem. These efforts will inform the work of the ICG, whose
responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition proposal from
these autonomously developed components.

Two of IANA's global directly affected communities, the addressing and
Internet protocol parameter communities, have responded to the NTIA's
announcement and the formation of the ICG, by establishing working groups
to provide input on their specific needs and expectations with respect to
the IANAStewardship Transition.

This CWG was formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to
develop a proposal for the elements of the IANA Stewardship Transition that
directly affect the naming community.
Further Information

   - Charter of Cross Community Working Group (CWG) to develop an IANA
Stewardship
   Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions
   <http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardship-naming-function-charte=
r-14aug14-en.pdf>
[PDF,
   277 KB]
   - CWG Wiki <https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>Avri Doria was appointed b=
y NCSG Policy Committee as representative of NCSG to the cross community wo=
rking group on IANA transition. She will liaise with NCSG and offered to wo=
rk with other members who will join as observers.</div><div><br>
as you can read below, you can join =C2=A0that working group as observer by=
 following the instructions below.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</=
div><div><br></div><div>Rafik=C2=A0</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b class=3D"gmail_sender=
name">Grace Abuhamad</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:grace.abuh=
[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: 2014-09-27=
 2:55 GMT+09:00<br>Subject: [ianatransition] Call for Observers to join CWG=
 on Naming Related Functions<br>To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:ianatransition@=
icann.org">[log in to unmask]</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ianatra=
[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;<br><br><br><div style=
=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibr=
i,sans-serif"><div>To view the original post, please see=C2=A0<a href=3D"ht=
tps://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-09-26-en</a></div><div><br></div><=
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olor:rgb(255,255,255)"></div><div style=3D"color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:=
helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)=
"><h3 style=3D"font-weight:500!important;font-family:Lato,Helvetica,Arial,s=
ans-serif;font-size:1.31rem;padding:0.75rem 0px 0.5rem;margin:0px">In Brief=
</h3><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem">=
The organizations that have adopted the charter for the Cross Community Wor=
king Group (CWG) to develop an Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (<abbr t=
itle=3D"Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-=
bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>) Stewardship Trans=
ition Proposal on Naming Related Functions call for observers to join this =
effort. The primary goal of the CWG is to produce a consolidated transition=
 proposal for the elements of the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet Assigned Num=
bers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-botto=
m-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>=C2=A0Functions relating to the=C2=A0<abbr title=
=3D"Domain Name" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bott=
om-style:dotted">Domain Name</abbr>System.</p><h3 style=3D"font-weight:500!=
important;font-family:Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.31rem;pad=
ding:0.75rem 0px 0.5rem;margin:0px">Participating as observer</h3><p style=
=3D"line-height:1.4rem;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem">Participation=
 in the CWG is open to members and observers. In addition to members, who a=
re appointed by the chartering organizations, anyone interested in the work=
 of the CWG, can join as an observer. Observers are expected to actively pa=
rticipate and attend all meetings. The only difference between a member and=
 an observer is that any consensus calls or formal decisions that may need =
to be made will be limited to CWG members appointed by the chartering organ=
izations. However, this does not take away that it is the expectation that =
the CWG will operate as much as possible with the views and consensus suppo=
rt of all participants in mind as the importance of considering all input a=
nd views on this important topic is recognized. Observers may be from a cha=
rtering organization, from a stakeholder group or organization not represen=
ted in the CWG or currently active within=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet Corp=
oration for Assigned Names and Numbers" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-botto=
m-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">ICANN</abbr>, or self-appointed.</p=
><h3 style=3D"font-weight:500!important;font-family:Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:1.31rem;padding:0.75rem 0px 0.5rem;margin:0px">How to jo=
in</h3><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem=
">If you are interested in joining, please contact Grace Abuhamad (<a href=
=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" style=3D"color:rgb(33,123,192);text-de=
coration:none;background-color:transparent;background-repeat:initial initia=
l" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>), or the secretariats of =
your Supporting Organization or Advisory Committee. All participants (membe=
rs and observers) will be listed on the CWG&#39;s webpage. All observers ar=
e also required to submit a Statement of Interest (<abbr title=3D"Statement=
 of Interest" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-=
style:dotted">SOI</abbr>) following the procedures of their chartering orga=
nization, or where that is not applicable for observers, the=C2=A0<abbr tit=
le=3D"Generic Names Supporting Organization" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-=
bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">GNSO</abbr>=C2=A0Procedures sh=
ould be followed (see=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://community.icann.org/x/cYLg" s=
tyle=3D"color:rgb(33,123,192);text-decoration:none;background-color:transpa=
rent;background-repeat:initial initial" target=3D"_blank">https://community=
.icann.org/x/cYLg</a>).</p><h3 style=3D"font-weight:500!important;font-fami=
ly:Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.31rem;padding:0.75rem 0px 0.=
5rem;margin:0px">Next steps</h3><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;font-size:1r=
em;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem">The CWG is currently in formation. To date, the =
At-Large Advisory Committee (<abbr title=3D"At-Large Advisory Committee" st=
yle=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">AL=
AC</abbr>), the Country Code Supporting Organization (<abbr title=3D"Countr=
y Code Names Supporting Organization" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-=
width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">ccNSO</abbr>), the Generic Names Supp=
orting Organization (<abbr title=3D"Generic Names Supporting Organization" =
style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">=
GNSO</abbr>) and the Security and Stability Advisory Committee (<abbr title=
=3D"Security and Stability Advisory Committee" style=3D"direction:ltr;borde=
r-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">SSAC</abbr>) have adopted th=
e charter, and are in the process of appointing members.=C2=A0<strong>The C=
WG will have its=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://community.icann.org/x/6grxAg" styl=
e=3D"font-weight:300;color:rgb(33,123,192);text-decoration:none;background:=
transparent" target=3D"_blank">first meeting</a>=C2=A0(via teleconference) =
on 6 October at 13.00 UTC, followed by a=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://la51.icann.=
org/en/schedule/mon-iana-stewardship-naming" style=3D"font-weight:300;color=
:rgb(33,123,192);text-decoration:none;background:transparent" target=3D"_bl=
ank">F2F meeting in Los Angeles during the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet Cor=
poration for Assigned Names and Numbers" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bott=
om-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">ICANN</abbr>=C2=A0meeting</a>=C2=
=A0(scheduled for Monday 13 October from 12.15 =E2=80=93 13.45 local time (=
19.15 =E2=80=93 22.45 UTC), with remote participation). Both sessions will =
be recorded and transcribed.</strong></p><h3 style=3D"font-weight:500!impor=
tant;font-family:Lato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.31rem;padding:=
0.75rem 0px 0.5rem;margin:0px">Background</h3><p style=3D"line-height:1.4re=
m;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem">The National Telecommunications an=
d Information Administration (<abbr title=3D"US National Telecommunications=
 and Information Agency" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;bor=
der-bottom-style:dotted">NTIA</abbr>) has requested that=C2=A0<abbr title=
=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" style=3D"direction=
:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">ICANN</abbr>&quot;=
convene a multistakeholder process to develop a plan to transition the U.S.=
 government stewardship role&quot; with regard to the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"I=
nternet Assigned Numbers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-wi=
dth:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>=C2=A0Functions and related =
root zone management. In making its announcement, the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"U=
S National Telecommunications and Information Agency" style=3D"direction:lt=
r;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">NTIA</abbr>=C2=A0spec=
ified that the transition proposal must have broad community support and me=
et the following principles:</p><ul style=3D"padding:0px;line-height:1.4rem=
;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem 20px"><li style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin:0px 0p=
x 15px 20px">Support and enhance the multistakeholder model</li><li style=
=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin:0px 0px 15px 20px">Maintain the security, sta=
bility, and resiliency of the Internet=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Domain Name Syst=
em" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dott=
ed">DNS</abbr></li><li style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin:0px 0px 15px 20px=
">Meet the needs and expectation of the global customers and partners of th=
e=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" style=3D"directi=
on:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>=C2=
=A0services</li><li style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin:0px 0px 15px 20px">M=
aintain the openness of the Internet.</li></ul><p style=3D"line-height:1.4r=
em;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem"><abbr title=3D"US National Teleco=
mmunications and Information Agency" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-w=
idth:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">NTIA</abbr>=C2=A0also specified that i=
t would not accept a proposal that replaces the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"US Nati=
onal Telecommunications and Information Agency" style=3D"direction:ltr;bord=
er-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">NTIA</abbr>=C2=A0role with =
a government-led or an intergovernmental organization solution.</p><p style=
=3D"line-height:1.4rem;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem">On June 6=C2=
=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers" styl=
e=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">ICAN=
N</abbr>=C2=A0proposed the creation of an=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet Assi=
gned Numbers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;bord=
er-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>=C2=A0Stewardship Transition Coordinatio=
n Group (<abbr title=3D"IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group" sty=
le=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">ICG=
</abbr>) &quot;responsible for preparing a transition proposal reflecting t=
he differing needs of the various affected parties of the=C2=A0<abbr title=
=3D"Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bott=
om-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>=C2=A0functions.&quot;<=
/p><p style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem">It=
 was determined that Stewardship Transition proposals for each of the=C2=A0=
<abbr title=3D"Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;=
border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>=C2=A0functi=
ons should be developed by the directly affected communities, the=C2=A0<abb=
r title=3D"Internet Engineering Task Force" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-b=
ottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IETF</abbr>=C2=A0and=C2=A0<abbr=
 title=3D"Internet Architecture Board" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom=
-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IAB</abbr>=C2=A0for=C2=A0<abbr title=
=3D"Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bott=
om-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>=C2=A0functions related=
 to Internet<abbr title=3D"Protocol" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-w=
idth:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">Protocol</abbr>=C2=A0Parameters; the=
=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Number Resource Organization" style=3D"direction:ltr;b=
order-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">NRO</abbr>, the=C2=A0<ab=
br title=3D"Address Supporting Organization" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-=
bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">ASO</abbr>, and the RIRs for f=
unctions related the management and distribution of numbering resources; an=
d the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Generic Names Supporting Organization" style=3D"d=
irection:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">GNSO</abbr=
>=C2=A0and=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Country Code Names Supporting Organization" =
style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">=
ccNSO</abbr>=C2=A0for functions related to the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Domain N=
ame" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dot=
ted">Domain Name</abbr>System. These efforts will inform the work of the=C2=
=A0<abbr title=3D"IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group" style=3D"=
direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">ICG</abbr=
>, whose responsibility is to develop an overall integrated transition prop=
osal from these autonomously developed components.</p><p style=3D"line-heig=
ht:1.4rem;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem">Two of=C2=A0<abbr title=3D=
"Internet Assigned Numbers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-=
width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>&#39;s global directly aff=
ected communities, the addressing and Internet protocol parameter communiti=
es, have responded to the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"US National Telecommunication=
s and Information Agency" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;bo=
rder-bottom-style:dotted">NTIA</abbr>&#39;s announcement and the formation =
of the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group" =
style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:dotted">=
ICG</abbr>, by establishing working groups to provide input on their specif=
ic needs and expectations with respect to the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet =
Assigned Numbers Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;=
border-bottom-style:dotted">IANA</abbr>Stewardship Transition.</p><p style=
=3D"line-height:1.4rem;font-size:1rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem">This CWG was =
formed as an integral part of this transition process, and to develop a pro=
posal for the elements of the=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet Assigned Numbers=
 Authority" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-st=
yle:dotted">IANA</abbr>=C2=A0Stewardship Transition that directly affect th=
e naming community.</p><h3 style=3D"font-weight:500!important;font-family:L=
ato,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:1.31rem;padding:0.75rem 0px 0.5rem=
;margin:0px">Further Information</h3><ul style=3D"padding:0px;line-height:1=
.4rem;margin:0px 0px 1.25rem 20px"><li style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin:0=
px 0px 15px 20px"><a href=3D"http://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/iana-stewardsh=
ip-naming-function-charter-14aug14-en.pdf" style=3D"color:rgb(33,123,192);t=
ext-decoration:none;clear:both;background-color:transparent;background-repe=
at:initial initial" target=3D"_blank">Charter of Cross Community Working Gr=
oup (CWG) to develop an=C2=A0<abbr title=3D"Internet Assigned Numbers Autho=
rity" style=3D"direction:ltr;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:do=
tted">IANA</abbr>=C2=A0Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Fu=
nctions</a>=C2=A0[PDF, 277 KB]</li><li style=3D"line-height:1.4rem;margin:0=
px 0px 15px 20px"><a href=3D"https://community.icann.org/x/37fhAg" style=3D=
"color:rgb(33,123,192);text-decoration:none;clear:both;background-color:tra=
nsparent;background-repeat:initial initial" target=3D"_blank">CWG Wiki</a><=
/li></ul></div></div></div>
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Hi

Thanks Sam.

For the techies here (especially Tapani, who seems the most familiar): =
Off the top of my head on my first coffee of the morning, a couple =
question arise: If we have an integrated db for all of NCSG, how if at =
all would it affect the key functionalities for NCUC, e.g. having data =
base additions feed directly into our website listing of members (and =
subscribing new members to mail lists), and the conduct of our =
elections?  Could we set this up in a way that Maryam just handles it =
for everyone?  How would we handle a hosting transfer?

Thanks

Bill=20

On Sep 27, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Sam Lanfranco <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> NCSG colleagues,
>=20
> Following last week's exchanges about how we handle membership =
applications and manage the membership databases NPOC offered to explore =
the those issues that could be addressed within the Charters of NCSG, =
NCUC and NPOC, and come back with some comments and suggestions. Here =
are the comments and suggestions, as a contribution to doing two simple =
things better. For the record, I am primary author of the comments.=20
>=20
>  Sam L.
> NPOC Comments on Improving the Handling of Membership Applications and =
the Management of the Membership Database:
>=20
> NPOC will open discussion on several issues in this comment, and =
suggest ways forward to greater clarity in the membership application =
process, and ways forward on the simple technical issue of maintaining =
NCSG, NCUC and NPOC membership data bases.=20
>=20
> Revising and improving how we handle the membership application =
process and membership databases are technical issues within the =
existing charters of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC and need to be kept separate =
from other membership issues that are charter related. This comment =
deals with the application process and the membership databases.=20
>=20
> Briefly reviewing the membership process, applicants apply for =
membership in the NCSG stakeholders group, and may (are urged to) apply =
for membership in one of the two constituency groups (NCUC and NPOC). =
Within the membership guidelines any non-commercial person or =
organization can also apply to the NCUC constituency group, but only =
not-for-profit organizations can apply to the NPOC constituency group.=20=

>=20
> The membership application process:
>=20
> If one reviews the membership information and application processes on =
ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC it is clear that a constituent interested in =
membership can be left a bit confused. There is a need for a single =
common application form, located at one or more websites, with a common =
return to relevant membership committees, initially for NCSG =
consideration and NCUC/NPOC information, and subsequently for NCUC/NPOC =
consideration.=20
>=20
> There is also a need for more clarity about the membership options, =
and for fields within the common form that allow an applicant to at that =
time request (or not request) subsequent consideration for NCUC or NPOC =
membership. This is a well-defined task that could be addressed by a =
small ad hoc committee made up of ICANN staff and NCSG, NCUC and NPOC =
members. Such committee would not address membership issues that are =
Charter issues but could identify and report such issues back to NCSG.=20=

>=20
> Maintaining the membership database:
>=20
> NCSG, NCUC and NPOC are part of ICANN and should be using Internet =
best practices for maintaining usable and up to date membership =
information. There are existing Internet best practices that can be =
drawn on to achieve those objectives.=20
>=20
> First, from a technical standpoint, from a user standpoint, and as =
reflected in the expressed views of Internet savvy NCSG members, there =
should be one master NCSG database with fields indicating NCUC and NPOC =
membership. This would allow those with approval the ability to access =
one or more of the NCSG, NCUC and NPOC views of the database.=20
>=20
> The majority of the fields in the membership database should be =
populated directly by field information from the membership application =
form. NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC may wish additional fields, either embedded =
in the overall NCSG database or added as custom fields to an extracted =
subset of membership data, possibly for special events or initiatives. =
The master NCSG database will always serve as the membership list of =
record.=20
>=20
> There are a number of issues with regard to the management of the =
membership database that require some discussion so that NCSG can take a =
position on them. They include:
>=20
> 1.      Dialogue between the effort to construct the proper fields for =
the membership application and the field information desired by NCSG, =
NCUC and NPOC.
> 2.      Where should the membership database be hosted? Should it be =
on an ICANN server or elsewhere?
> 3.      Who should have what levels of access to the membership =
database?
> 4.      Should members have password protected access to their own =
profiles in order to update information (especially important for =
organizations)?
> 5.      Should profile access by via the ICANN dashboard?
>=20
> There may be other issues with regard to the membership application =
and the membership database that reside within the terms of reference of =
the respective NCSG, NCUC and NPOC charters. Some may come out in the =
dialogue on the issues and tasks listed in this NPOC comment.=20
>=20
> After a NCSG dialogue on these database issues it may be appropriate =
to strike a small ad hoc team to work up a concrete proposal to make =
recommendations to address the issues=20
>=20
> Sam Lanfranco,
> Chair, NPOC Policy Committee

***********************************************
William J. Drake
International Fellow & Lecturer
  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
  University of Zurich, Switzerland
Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency,=20
  ICANN, www.ncuc.org
[log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists),
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;">Hi<div><br></div><div>Thanks =
Sam.</div><div><br></div><div>For the techies here (especially Tapani, =
who seems the most familiar): Off the top of my head on my first coffee =
of the morning, a couple question arise: If we have an integrated db for =
all of NCSG, how if at all would it affect the key functionalities for =
NCUC, e.g. having data base additions feed directly into our website =
listing of members (and subscribing new members to mail lists), and the =
conduct of our elections? &nbsp;Could we set this up in a way that =
Maryam just handles it for everyone? &nbsp;How would we handle a hosting =
transfer?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div><br></div><div>Bill&nb=
sp;</div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 27, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Sam Lanfranco =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
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    NCSG colleagues,<br>
    <br>
    Following last week's exchanges about how we handle membership
    applications and manage the membership databases NPOC offered to
    explore the those issues that could be addressed within the Charters
    of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC, and come back with some comments and
    suggestions. Here are the comments and suggestions, as a
    contribution to doing two simple things better. For the record, I am
    primary author of the comments. <br>
    <br>
    &nbsp;Sam L.<br>
    <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%"> <b>NPOC Comments on Improving the
      Handling of Membership Applications and the Management of the
      Membership Database:</b><o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>NPOC will open discussion on several issues in this comment,
    and suggest ways forward to greater clarity in the membership
    application process, and ways forward on the simple technical issue
    of maintaining NCSG, NCUC and NPOC membership data bases. =
<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>Revising and improving how we handle the membership
    application process and membership databases are technical issues
    within the existing charters of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC and need to be
    kept separate from other membership issues that are charter related.
    This comment deals with the application process and the membership
    databases. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>Briefly reviewing the membership process, applicants apply
    for membership in the NCSG stakeholders group, and may (are urged
    to) apply for membership in one of the two constituency groups (NCUC
    and NPOC). Within the membership guidelines any non-commercial
    person or organization can also apply to the NCUC constituency
    group, but only not-for-profit organizations can apply to the NPOC
    constituency group. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><b>The membership application =
process:</b><o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>If one reviews the membership information and application
    processes on ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC it is clear that a
    constituent interested in membership can be left a bit confused.
    There is a need for a single common application form, located at one
    or more websites, with a common return to relevant membership
    committees, initially for NCSG consideration and NCUC/NPOC
    information, and subsequently for NCUC/NPOC consideration. =
<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There is also a need for more clarity about the membership
    options, and for fields within the common form that allow an
    applicant to at that time request (or not request) subsequent
    consideration for NCUC or NPOC membership. This is a well-defined
    task that could be addressed by a small ad hoc committee made up of
    ICANN staff and NCSG, NCUC and NPOC members. Such committee would
    not address membership issues that are Charter issues but could
    identify and report such issues back to NCSG. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><b>Maintaining the membership =
database:</b><o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>NCSG, NCUC and NPOC are part of ICANN and should be using
    Internet best practices for maintaining usable and up to date
    membership information. There are existing Internet best practices
    that can be drawn on to achieve those objectives. =
<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>First, from a technical standpoint, from a user standpoint,
    and as reflected in the expressed views of Internet savvy NCSG
    members, there should be one master NCSG database with fields
    indicating NCUC and NPOC membership. This would allow those with
    approval the ability to access one or more of the NCSG, NCUC and
    NPOC views of the database. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>The majority of the fields in the membership database should
    be populated directly by field information from the membership
    application form. NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC may wish additional fields,
    either embedded in the overall NCSG database or added as custom
    fields to an extracted subset of membership data, possibly for
    special events or initiatives. The master NCSG database will always
    serve as the membership list of record. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There are a number of issues with regard to the management
    of the membership database that require some discussion so that NCSG
    can take a position on them. They include:<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><span =
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-latin"><sp=
an style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span>Dialogue between
    the effort to construct the proper fields for the membership
    application and the field information desired by NCSG, NCUC and
    NPOC.<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small><span =
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-latin"><sp=
an style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span>Where should the
    membership database be hosted? Should it be on an ICANN server or
    elsewhere?<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small><span =
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-latin"><sp=
an style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span>Who should have
    what levels of access to the membership =
database?<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small><span =
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-latin"><sp=
an style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span>Should members
    have password protected access to their own profiles in order to
    update information (especially important for =
organizations)?<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small><span =
style=3D"mso-bidi-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-latin"><sp=
an style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style=3D"font:7.0pt &quot;Times
          New Roman&quot;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></span></span>Should profile
    access by via the ICANN dashboard?<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There may be other issues with regard to the membership
    application and the membership database that reside within the terms
    of reference of the respective NCSG, NCUC and NPOC charters. Some
    may come out in the dialogue on the issues and tasks listed in this
    NPOC comment. <o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>After a NCSG dialogue on these database issues it may be
    appropriate to strike a small ad hoc team to work up a concrete
    proposal to make recommendations to address the issues =
<o:p></o:p><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes"></span><o:p>Sam =
Lanfranco,<br>
      Chair, NPOC Policy Committee<br>
    </o:p>
  </div>

</blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
***********************************************<br>William J. =
Drake<br>International Fellow &amp;&nbsp;Lecturer<br>&nbsp; Media Change =
&amp;&nbsp;Innovation Division, IPMZ<br>&nbsp; University of =
Zurich,&nbsp;Switzerland<br>Chair, Noncommercial&nbsp;Users =
Constituency,&nbsp;<br>&nbsp; ICANN, <a =
href=3D"http://www.ncuc.org">www.ncuc.org</a><br><a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&nbsp;(direct=
),&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a> =
(lists),<br>&nbsp; <a =
href=3D"http://www.williamdrake.org">www.williamdrake.org</a><br>*********=
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Hi Sam,

thanks for those comments, however I am putting some remarks below because
some assumptions you made
  NCSG colleagues,

Following last week's exchanges about how we handle membership applications
and manage the membership databases NPOC offered to explore the those
issues that could be addressed within the Charters of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC,
and come back with some comments and suggestions. Here are the comments and
suggestions, as a contribution to doing two simple things better. For the
record, I am primary author of the comments.

 Sam L.
------------------------------
*NPOC Comments on Improving the Handling of Membership Applications and the
Management of the Membership Database:*

NPOC will open discussion on several issues in this comment, and suggest
ways forward to greater clarity in the membership application process, and
ways forward on the simple technical issue of maintaining NCSG, NCUC and
NPOC membership data bases.

Revising and improving how we handle the membership application process and
membership databases are technical issues within the existing charters of
NCSG, NCUC and NPOC and need to be kept separate from other membership
issues that are charter related. This comment deals with the application
process and the membership databases.

Briefly reviewing the membership process, applicants apply for membership
in the NCSG stakeholders group, and may (are urged to) apply for membership
in one of the two constituency groups (NCUC and NPOC). Within the
membership guidelines any non-commercial person or organization can also
apply to the NCUC constituency group, but only not-for-profit organizations
can apply to the NPOC constituency group.

*The membership application process:*

If one reviews the membership information and application processes on
ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC it is clear that a constituent interested in
membership can be left a bit confused. There is a need for a single common
application form, located at one or more websites, with a common return to
relevant membership committees, initially for NCSG consideration and
NCUC/NPOC information, and subsequently for NCUC/NPOC consideration.

There is also a need for more clarity about the membership options, and for
fields within the common form that allow an applicant to at that time
request (or not request) subsequent consideration for NCUC or NPOC
membership. This is a well-defined task that could be addressed by a small
ad hoc committee made up of ICANN staff and NCSG, NCUC and NPOC members.
Such committee would not address membership issues that are Charter issues
but could identify and report such issues back to NCSG.

*Maintaining the membership database:*

NCSG, NCUC and NPOC are part of ICANN and should be using Internet best
practices for maintaining usable and up to date membership information.
There are existing Internet best practices that can be drawn on to achieve
those objectives.

First, from a technical standpoint, from a user standpoint, and as
reflected in the expressed views of Internet savvy NCSG members, there
should be one master NCSG database with fields indicating NCUC and NPOC
membership. This would allow those with approval the ability to access one
or more of the NCSG, NCUC and NPOC views of the database.

The majority of the fields in the membership database should be populated
directly by field information from the membership application form. NCSG,
NCUC, and NPOC may wish additional fields, either embedded in the overall
NCSG database or added as custom fields to an extracted subset of
membership data, possibly for special events or initiatives. The master
NCSG database will always serve as the membership list of record.

There are a number of issues with regard to the management of the
membership database that require some discussion so that NCSG can take a
position on them. They include:

1.      Dialogue between the effort to construct the proper fields for the
membership application and the field information desired by NCSG, NCUC and
NPOC.
2.      Where should the membership database be hosted? Should it be on an
ICANN server or elsewhere?
3.      Who should have what levels of access to the membership database?
4.      Should members have password protected access to their own profiles
in order to update information (especially important for organizations)?
5.      Should profile access by via the ICANN dashboard?

There may be other issues with regard to the membership application and the
membership database that reside within the terms of reference of the
respective NCSG, NCUC and NPOC charters. Some may come out in the dialogue
on the issues and tasks listed in this NPOC comment.

After a NCSG dialogue on these database issues it may be appropriate to
strike a small ad hoc team to work up a concrete proposal to make
recommendations to address the issues

Sam Lanfranco,
Chair, NPOC Policy Committee

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<p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Sam,</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">thanks for those comments, however I am putting some remarks=
 below because some assumptions you made<br>
</p>
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;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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    NCSG colleagues,<br>
    <br>
    Following last week&#39;s exchanges about how we handle membership
    applications and manage the membership databases NPOC offered to
    explore the those issues that could be addressed within the Charters
    of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC, and come back with some comments and
    suggestions. Here are the comments and suggestions, as a
    contribution to doing two simple things better. For the record, I am
    primary author of the comments. <br>
    <br>
    =C2=A0Sam L.<br>
    <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%"> <b>NPOC Comments on Improving the
      Handling of Membership Applications and the Management of the
      Membership Database:</b><u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>NPOC will open discussion on several issues in this comment,
    and suggest ways forward to greater clarity in the membership
    application process, and ways forward on the simple technical issue
    of maintaining NCSG, NCUC and NPOC membership data bases. <u></u><u></u=
><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>Revising and improving how we handle the membership
    application process and membership databases are technical issues
    within the existing charters of NCSG, NCUC and NPOC and need to be
    kept separate from other membership issues that are charter related.
    This comment deals with the application process and the membership
    databases. <u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>Briefly reviewing the membership process, applicants apply
    for membership in the NCSG stakeholders group, and may (are urged
    to) apply for membership in one of the two constituency groups (NCUC
    and NPOC). Within the membership guidelines any non-commercial
    person or organization can also apply to the NCUC constituency
    group, but only not-for-profit organizations can apply to the NPOC
    constituency group. <u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><b>The membership application process:</b><u></u><u></u><small>=
<br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>If one reviews the membership information and application
    processes on ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC it is clear that a
    constituent interested in membership can be left a bit confused.
    There is a need for a single common application form, located at one
    or more websites, with a common return to relevant membership
    committees, initially for NCSG consideration and NCUC/NPOC
    information, and subsequently for NCUC/NPOC consideration. <u></u><u></=
u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There is also a need for more clarity about the membership
    options, and for fields within the common form that allow an
    applicant to at that time request (or not request) subsequent
    consideration for NCUC or NPOC membership. This is a well-defined
    task that could be addressed by a small ad hoc committee made up of
    ICANN staff and NCSG, NCUC and NPOC members. Such committee would
    not address membership issues that are Charter issues but could
    identify and report such issues back to NCSG. <u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><b>Maintaining the membership database:</b><u></u><u></u><small=
><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>NCSG, NCUC and NPOC are part of ICANN and should be using
    Internet best practices for maintaining usable and up to date
    membership information. There are existing Internet best practices
    that can be drawn on to achieve those objectives. <u></u><u></u><small>=
<br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>First, from a technical standpoint, from a user standpoint,
    and as reflected in the expressed views of Internet savvy NCSG
    members, there should be one master NCSG database with fields
    indicating NCUC and NPOC membership. This would allow those with
    approval the ability to access one or more of the NCSG, NCUC and
    NPOC views of the database. <u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>The majority of the fields in the membership database should
    be populated directly by field information from the membership
    application form. NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC may wish additional fields,
    either embedded in the overall NCSG database or added as custom
    fields to an extracted subset of membership data, possibly for
    special events or initiatives. The master NCSG database will always
    serve as the membership list of record. <u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There are a number of issues with regard to the management
    of the membership database that require some discussion so that NCSG
    can take a position on them. They include:<u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><span><span>1.<span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span>Dialogue between
    the effort to construct the proper fields for the membership
    application and the field information desired by NCSG, NCUC and
    NPOC.<u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small><span><span>2.<span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span>Where should the
    membership database be hosted? Should it be on an ICANN server or
    elsewhere?<u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small><span><span>3.<span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span>Who should have
    what levels of access to the membership database?<u></u><u></u><small><=
br>
    </small><span><span>4.<span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span>Should members
    have password protected access to their own profiles in order to
    update information (especially important for organizations)?<u></u><u><=
/u><small><br>
    </small><span><span>5.<span>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></spa=
n></span>Should profile
    access by via the ICANN dashboard?<u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>There may be other issues with regard to the membership
    application and the membership database that reside within the terms
    of reference of the respective NCSG, NCUC and NPOC charters. Some
    may come out in the dialogue on the issues and tasks listed in this
    NPOC comment. <u></u><u></u><small><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small>After a NCSG dialogue on these database issues it may be
    appropriate to strike a small ad hoc team to work up a concrete
    proposal to make recommendations to address the issues <u></u><u></u><s=
mall><br>
    </small> <small><br>
    </small><span></span><u></u>Sam Lanfranco,<br>
      Chair, NPOC Policy Committee<br>
    <u></u>
  </div>

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Thank you Maryam.
And sorry for the absence due to a lack of Internet connection from where I
am at the moment of the meeting.
I've read the transcript and will listen to the recording.
Thanks again and keep up the great work.

PS : I have also noticed that all the NPOC EXCOM members were present.
Congrats !
Cheers !
-Ol=E9vi=E9-


2014-09-25 8:29 GMT+00:00 Maryam Bakoshi <[log in to unmask]>:

>   Dear All,
>
>
>
> Please find attached/below the transcript, attendance, and MP3 recording
> of the NCSG Monthly call held on the 23rd September 2014.
>
>
>
> *Attendees*: Rafik Dammak, Rudi Vansnick,  Avri Doria,  Klaus Stoll,
> Marilia Maciel, Sam Lanfranco, Stephanie Perrin, Robin Gross, Bill Drake,
> David Cake
>
>
>
> *Apologies:* Carlos Guttierrez, Magaly Pazello
>
>
>
> *Staff:*  Maryam Bakoshi, Nathalie Peregrine, Benedetta Rossi
>
>
>
>
>
> *MP3 recording: *
> https://icann.box.com/shared/static/914sm51mmwlipc7a1j72.mp3
>
>
>   Many thanks,
> --
>
> Maryam Bakoshi
>
> *Secretariat - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC*
>
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>
>
>  *Email:*  [log in to unmask]
>
> *Mobile:*  +44 7737 698036
>
> *Skype:*  maryam.bakoshi.icann
>



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Ol=E9vi=E9 Ayaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI
Responsable projet CERGI-Education (http://www.cergibs.com)
CEO de INTIC4DEV (http://www.intic4dev.org)
SG de ESTETIC  (http://www.estetic.tg)
Membre de ISoc (www.isoc.org <http://www.isoc.org/>) & du FOSSFA (
www.fossfa.net)
ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (http://www.icann.org/ et
http://www.npoc.org/)
BP : 851 - T=E9l.: (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you Maryam.<div>And sorry for the absence due to a l=
ack of Internet connection from where I am at the moment of the meeting.</d=
iv><div>I&#39;ve read the transcript and will listen to the recording.</div=
><div>Thanks again and keep up the great work.</div><div><br></div><div>PS =
: I have also noticed that all the NPOC EXCOM members were present. Congrat=
s !</div><div>Cheers !</div><div>-Ol=E9vi=E9-</div><div><br></div></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-09-25 8:29 GMT+=
00:00 Maryam Bakoshi <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:maryam.bakoshi=
@icann.org" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span>:<br><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif">
<div>
<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Dear All,</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<span>
<div>
<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Please find a=
ttached/below the transcript, attendance, and MP3 recording of the NCSG Mon=
thly call held on the 23rd September 2014.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Attendees<=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">: R=
afik Dammak, Rudi Vansnick, &nbsp;Avri Doria, &nbsp;Klaus Stoll, Marilia Ma=
ciel, Sam Lanfranco, Stephanie Perrin,
 Robin Gross, Bill Drake, David Cake<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Apologies:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&n=
bsp;Carlos Guttierrez, Magaly Pazello<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Staff:</sp=
an></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;=
 Maryam Bakoshi, Nathalie Peregrine, Benedetta Rossi<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif">
<b>MP3 recording:&nbsp;</b>&nbsp;<u></u><u></u><a href=3D"https://icann.box=
.com/shared/static/914sm51mmwlipc7a1j72.mp3" style=3D"font-size:medium;font=
-family:Consolas" target=3D"_blank">https://icann.box.com/shared/static/914=
sm51mmwlipc7a1j72.mp3</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span>=
</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Many thanks,</div>
<div>--&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt">Mar=
yam Bakoshi<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b>=
Secretariat &ndash; NCSG, NCUC, NPOC</b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt">Int=
ernet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><br=
>
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b>=
Email:</b>&nbsp;
<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">maryam.bakosh=
[log in to unmask]</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b>=
Mobile:</b>&nbsp; <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%207737%20698036" value=3D"+447737698=
036" target=3D"_blank">+44 7737 698036</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt"><b>=
Skype:</b> &nbsp;maryam.bakoshi.icann</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</span>
</div>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Ol=E9vi=E9 A=
yaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI<br>Responsable projet CERGI-Education (<a href=3D"http=
://www.cergibs.com">http://www.cergibs.com</a>) <br>CEO de INTIC4DEV (<a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.intic4dev.org">http://www.intic4dev.org</a>)<br>SG de ESTE=
TIC&nbsp; (<a href=3D"http://www.estetic.tg">http://www.estetic.tg</a>)<br>=
Membre de ISoc (<a href=3D"http://www.isoc.org">www.isoc.org</a> &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"http://www.isoc.org/">http://www.isoc.org/</a>&gt;) &amp; du FOSSFA (<=
br><a href=3D"http://www.fossfa.net">www.fossfa.net</a>) <br>ICANN-NPOC Com=
munications Committee Chair (<a href=3D"http://www.icann.org/">http://www.i=
cann.org/</a> et <a href=3D"http://www.npoc.org/">http://www.npoc.org/</a>)=
<br>BP : 851 - T=E9l.: (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72 <br>Skype : ol=
evie1 FB : @olivier.kouami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lom=E9 &ndash; Togo<br><br>
</div>

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Bill,

Thanks for the three questions regarding the key functionalities for 
NCUC (which also apply for NPOC). I will address them in order, with a 
bit of commentary to help set a context for thought:

*1. How would data base additions feed directly into our (NCUC) website 
listing of members? *
Ideally, and easy to do, there could be a single operation (extracting a 
subset of a membership spreadsheet (or database) that produce the NCUC 
list. The labor-intensive way would be for NCUC (and NPOC) to simply do 
an extraction and update every time there are new NCSG members. It could 
be automated but that would take more effort on both the ICANN staff and 
whomever controls the NCUC and NPOC websites. The key would be a single 
membership list source, provided to NCSG (&NCUC and NPOC) as a 
constituency service by ICANN. The more automated the better.
*
**2. How to handle subscriptions to mailing lists?*
I have run dozens of mailing lists (using listserv like Milton from 
Syracuse) and as a principle we always have someone from the stakeholder 
group with co-manager/moderator authority. That should be the case here. 
For the brief time I was NPOC membership chair I had great difficulty 
determining the subscriber list for npoc-voice. Automating population of 
mailing lists from a membership spreadsheet is a bit of work. I would 
propose that keeping the mailing lists up to date simply be a membership 
committee, or communications committee, task, since the numbers are 
small. The key issue here is access as a manager. My view is that the 
lists should be hosted by ICANN, but managed by the support and 
constituency groups. The other view, using the good offices of Syracuse 
(Milton) for this list, and IPJustice.org (Robin) works well, so choice 
here should be a NCSG decision.
*
**3. How to compose/verify voter lists for elections?*
The key issue is that an eligible voter list be accurate. That starts 
from an accurate overall membership list, and accurate mailing lists so 
that a step involving qualifying voters (just a simply email response) 
works as it should. This is why I suggested that NCSG members have 
access to a membership profile page somewhere (within the ICANN 
dashboard?), a profile page is first populated by data from a successful 
application, feeds the membership database, and can be updated by the 
member. This is useful when a member is not just from an organization, 
but formally represents that organization and may be replaced over time. 
Profiles could be updated, with notice of update sent to those who 
maintain the mailing lists. The update would get captured to NCUC and 
NPOC with periodic/frequent NCUC and NPOC membership updates from the 
master NCSG membership list.

Each of these is a quite simple improvement in handling these three 
areas, is common practice elsewhere, and certainly for ICANN, NCSG, NCUC 
and NPOC should be our best practice goals. After all, we deal with the 
Internet. We are not a consortium of potato farmers (which by the way do 
these tasks much better). It is a tribute to the hard work of ICANN 
volunteers and staff that things have been cobbled together as they 
have, and the work gets done. But, on occasion we have to pause, thank 
all for the hard work, and look to do things better. I am sure that many 
of us who have labored in these trenches over the years have seen the 
product of our hard infrastructure work be replaced, in an instant, by a 
simpler and more efficient solution. I usually congratulate the step 
forward and take pleasure in the fact that the digital discards simply 
vanish and  do not land in land fills.

Sam m

/On 27/09/2014 3:02 AM, William Drake wrote:
/
> /Hi/
> /
> /
> /Thanks Sam./
> /
> /
> /For the techies here (especially Tapani, who seems the most 
> familiar): Off the top of my head on my first coffee of the morning, a 
> couple question arise: If we have an integrated db for all of NCSG, 
> how if at all would it affect the key functionalities for NCUC, e.g. 
> having data base additions feed directly into our website listing of 
> members (and subscribing new members to mail lists), and the conduct 
> of our elections?  Could we set this up in a way that Maryam just 
> handles it for everyone?  How would we handle a hosting transfer?/
> /
> /
> /Thanks/
> /
> /
> /Bill /
>

-- 
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"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
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Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
email: [log in to unmask]   Skype: slanfranco
blog:  http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Bill, <br>
      <br>
      Thanks for the three questions regarding the key functionalities
      for NCUC (which also apply for NPOC). I will address them in
      order, with a bit of commentary to help set a context for thought:<br>
      <br>
      <b>1. How would data base additions feed directly into our (NCUC)
        website listing of members? </b><br>
      Ideally, and easy to do, there could be a single operation
      (extracting a subset of a membership spreadsheet (or database)
      that produce the NCUC list. The labor-intensive way would be for
      NCUC (and NPOC) to simply do an extraction and update every time
      there are new NCSG members. It could be automated but that would
      take more effort on both the ICANN staff and whomever controls the
      NCUC and NPOC websites. The key would be a single membership list
      source, provided to NCSG (&amp;NCUC and NPOC) as a constituency
      service by ICANN. The more automated the better.<br>
      <b><br>
      </b><b>2. How to handle subscriptions to mailing lists?</b><br>
      I have run dozens of mailing lists (using listserv like Milton
      from Syracuse) and as a principle we always have someone from the
      stakeholder group with co-manager/moderator authority. That should
      be the case here. For the brief time I was NPOC membership chair I
      had great difficulty determining the subscriber list for
      npoc-voice. Automating population of mailing lists from a
      membership spreadsheet is a bit of work. I would propose that
      keeping the mailing lists up to date simply be a membership
      committee, or communications committee, task, since the numbers
      are small. The key issue here is access as a manager. My view is
      that the lists should be hosted by ICANN, but managed by the
      support and constituency groups. The other view, using the good
      offices of Syracuse (Milton) for this list, and IPJustice.org
      (Robin) works well, so choice here should be a NCSG decision.<br>
      <b><br>
      </b><b>3. How to compose/verify voter lists for elections?</b><br>
      The key issue is that an eligible voter list be accurate. That
      starts from an accurate overall membership list, and accurate
      mailing lists so that a step involving qualifying voters (just a
      simply email response) works as it should. This is why I suggested
      that NCSG members have access to a membership profile page
      somewhere (within the ICANN dashboard?), a profile page is first
      populated by data from a successful application, feeds the
      membership database, and can be updated by the member. This is
      useful when a member is not just from an organization, but
      formally represents that organization and may be replaced over
      time. Profiles could be updated, with notice of update sent to
      those who maintain the mailing lists. The update would get
      captured to NCUC and NPOC with periodic/frequent NCUC and NPOC
      membership updates from the master NCSG membership list. <br>
      <br>
      Each of these is a quite simple improvement in handling these
      three areas, is common practice elsewhere, and certainly for
      ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC should be our best practice goals.
      After all, we deal with the Internet. We are not a consortium of
      potato farmers (which by the way do these tasks much better). It
      is a tribute to the hard work of ICANN volunteers and staff that
      things have been cobbled together as they have, and the work gets
      done. But, on occasion we have to pause, thank all for the hard
      work, and look to do things better. I am sure that many of us who
      have labored in these trenches over the years have seen the
      product of our hard infrastructure work be replaced, in an
      instant, by a simpler and more efficient solution. I usually
      congratulate the step forward and take pleasure in the fact that
      the digital discards simply vanish and&nbsp; do not land in land fills.
      <br>
      <br>
      Sam m<br>
      <br>
      <i><font color="#330099">On 27/09/2014 3:02 AM, William Drake
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      <div><i><font color="#330099">Thanks Sam.</font></i></div>
      <div><i><font color="#330099"><br>
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      <div><i><font color="#330099">For the techies here (especially
            Tapani, who seems the most familiar): Off the top of my head
            on my first coffee of the morning, a couple question arise:
            If we have an integrated db for all of NCSG, how if at all
            would it affect the key functionalities for NCUC, e.g.
            having data base additions feed directly into our website
            listing of members (and subscribing new members to mail
            lists), and the conduct of our elections? &nbsp;Could we set this
            up in a way that Maryam just handles it for everyone? &nbsp;How
            would we handle a hosting transfer?</font></i></div>
      <div><i><font color="#330099"><br>
          </font></i></div>
      <div><i><font color="#330099">Thanks</font></i></div>
      <div><i><font color="#330099"><br>
          </font></i></div>
      <div><i><font color="#330099">Bill&nbsp;</font></i></div>
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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
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"It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured
in an unjust state" -Confucius
------------------------------------------------
Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus &amp; Senior Scholar)
Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>   Skype: slanfranco
blog:  <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com">http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com</a>
Phone: +1 613-476-0429 cell: +1 416-816-2852</pre>
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Hi Sam,

thanks for those comments, however I am putting some remarks below because
some assumptions you made

>
> Briefly reviewing the membership process, applicants apply for membership
> in the NCSG stakeholders group, and may (are urged to) apply for membership
> in one of the two constituency groups (NCUC and NPOC). Within the
> membership guidelines any non-commercial person or organization can also
> apply to the NCUC constituency group, but only not-for-profit organizations
> can apply to the NPOC constituency group.
>
> *The membership application process:*
>
> If one reviews the membership information and application processes on
> ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC it is clear that a constituent interested in
> membership can be left a bit confused. There is a need for a single common
> application form, located at one or more websites, with a common return to
> relevant membership committees, initially for NCSG consideration and
> NCUC/NPOC information, and subsequently for NCUC/NPOC consideration.
>
>
prospective NCSG applicants are asked to apply here
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/How+to+Join
NCUC indicate here http://www.ncuc.org/participate/become-a-member/ to
future members to go that form
while NPOC sounds adding another layer to the process and request
additional application to be filled http://npoc.org/?p=membershipinfo

so yes we have already a single common application form which also ask
applicants if they want to join constituency. its improvement was discussed
at EC and Lori Schulman volunteered to make proposals to add fields to get
better info from future members while keeping the application simple.
the members of NCSG EC from each constituency are supposed to liaise with
groups committees regarding those who want to join them.

There is also a need for more clarity about the membership options, and for
> fields within the common form that allow an applicant to at that time
> request (or not request) subsequent consideration for NCUC or NPOC
> membership. This is a well-defined task that could be addressed by a small
> ad hoc committee made up of ICANN staff and NCSG, NCUC and NPOC members.
> Such committee would not address membership issues that are Charter issues
> but could identify and report such issues back to NCSG.
>

not sure to get your point here and I may see some overengineering.
as I said , applicants already select to join NCUC, NPOC, both or none when
he/she fills the form . the issue is not the form or review by NCSG EC, it
is about how constituencies handles those new applicants in regard to their
own processes. some suggestions was to delegate the decision to NCSG EC
members to  confirm applications for their respective constituencies.


>
> *Maintaining the membership database:*
>
> NCSG, NCUC and NPOC are part of ICANN and should be using Internet best
> practices for maintaining usable and up to date membership information.
> There are existing Internet best practices that can be drawn on to achieve
> those objectives.
>
> First, from a technical standpoint, from a user standpoint, and as
> reflected in the expressed views of Internet savvy NCSG members, there
> should be one master NCSG database with fields indicating NCUC and NPOC
> membership. This would allow those with approval the ability to access one
> or more of the NCSG, NCUC and NPOC views of the database.
>
> we have already one master NCSG database file.
the fields for constituency exist already in particular for those who
applied with the current form, in addition to other information. however
 it need to be confirmed since the approval to join a constituency is done
at its level and getting confirmation back. that is how I could send you
for your last NPOC election the list of NPOC members extracted from NCSG
database while warning that you need to double-check if you approved them
or not.

I am working with the admin support to clean-up, consolidate the existing
NCSG membership list and working to update info for some organizational
members after the check-in process for the last election.

The majority of the fields in the membership database should be populated
> directly by field information from the membership application form. NCSG,
> NCUC, and NPOC may wish additional fields, either embedded in the overall
> NCSG database or added as custom fields to an extracted subset of
> membership data, possibly for special events or initiatives. The master
> NCSG database will always serve as the membership list of record.
>
>
yes membership database fields are already filled form the current form ,
only old records may miss some information and they can populate by
contacting members.
I would advise to not add more additional fields not directly related to
applications or aimed for specific purpose. that should be in another
list/table which link to NCSG membership list.

There are a number of issues with regard to the management of the
> membership database that require some discussion so that NCSG can take a
> position on them. They include:
>
> 1.      Dialogue between the effort to construct the proper fields for the
> membership application and the field information desired by NCSG, NCUC and
> NPOC.
>

NCSG EC is tasked to work on improving the application , and work started
already. EC members should liaise with their respective groups


>
> 2.      Where should the membership database be hosted? Should it be on an
> ICANN server or elsewhere?
>

while we are involved in ICANN, we have to be independant on our internal
 management matters. we have public  NCSG membership list for transparency
. I don't think any other group in GNSO is using ICANN platform for
critical matter like membership but they should provide public list of the
membership which is missing for many.
so membership database or list must be kept at NCSG.


> 3.      Who should have what levels of access to the membership database?
>

NCSG EC and Chair are tasked to maintain the database and update it (refer
to NCSG charter). maybe EC for constituencies may have access to view-only
mode .


> 4.      Should members have password protected access to their own
> profiles in order to update information (especially important for
> organizations)?
>

we don't have such solution yet and this need development to support user
management, authentication, authorization and which data they can access.
 members just need to update records by informing the NCSG chair during the
check-in election process. if an organization don't do that during a
check-in period, it is unlikely to do it in other time.

>
> 5.      Should profile access by via the ICANN dashboard?
>

which ICANN dashboard?how many people from NCSG use them regularly? so many
initiative launched with random adoption by the community or any clear
added value. as software engineer, I am more in favor of KISS principle (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle) , lets keep things simple and
focused at this stage. any additional feature can be done later.

hope that helps,

Rafik

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Hi Sam,<div><br></div><div>than=
ks for those comments, however I am putting some remarks below because some=
 assumptions you made</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;b=
order-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:s=
olid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><small><br=
></small>Briefly reviewing the membership process, applicants apply for mem=
bership in the NCSG stakeholders group, and may (are urged to) apply for me=
mbership in one of the two constituency groups (NCUC and NPOC). Within the =
membership guidelines any non-commercial person or organization can also ap=
ply to the NCUC constituency group, but only not-for-profit organizations c=
an apply to the NPOC constituency group.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><small><br></sm=
all><small><br></small><b>The membership application process:</b><u></u><u>=
</u><small><br></small><small><br></small>If one reviews the membership inf=
ormation and application processes on ICANN, NCSG, NCUC and NPOC it is clea=
r that a constituent interested in membership can be left a bit confused. T=
here is a need for a single common application form, located at one or more=
 websites, with a common return to relevant membership committees, initiall=
y for NCSG consideration and NCUC/NPOC information, and subsequently for NC=
UC/NPOC consideration.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><small><br></small><small><br></s=
mall></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>prospective NCSG applicants are=
 asked to apply here=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://community.icann.org/display/gn=
sononcomstake/How+to+Join" target=3D"_blank">https://community.icann.org/di=
splay/gnsononcomstake/How+to+Join</a>=C2=A0</div><div>NCUC indicate here=C2=
=A0<a href=3D"http://www.ncuc.org/participate/become-a-member/" target=3D"_=
blank">http://www.ncuc.org/participate/become-a-member/</a>=C2=A0to future =
members to go that form=C2=A0</div><div>while NPOC sounds adding another la=
yer to the process and request additional application to be filled=C2=A0<a =
href=3D"http://npoc.org/?p=3Dmembershipinfo" target=3D"_blank">http://npoc.=
org/?p=3Dmembershipinfo</a></div><div><br></div><div>so yes we have already=
 a single common application form which also ask applicants if they want to=
 join constituency. its improvement was discussed at EC and Lori Schulman v=
olunteered to make proposals to add fields to get better info from future m=
embers while keeping the application simple.</div><div>the members of NCSG =
EC from each constituency are supposed to liaise with groups committees reg=
arding those who want to join them.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;bo=
rder-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">=
<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><small></small>There is also a ne=
ed for more clarity about the membership options, and for fields within the=
 common form that allow an applicant to at that time request (or not reques=
t) subsequent consideration for NCUC or NPOC membership. This is a well-def=
ined task that could be addressed by a small ad hoc committee made up of IC=
ANN staff and NCSG, NCUC and NPOC members. Such committee would not address=
 membership issues that are Charter issues but could identify and report su=
ch issues back to NCSG.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>not sure to g=
et your point here and I may see some overengineering. =C2=A0</div><div>as =
I said , applicants already select to join NCUC, NPOC, both or none when he=
/she fills the form . the issue is not the form or review by NCSG EC, it is=
 about how constituencies handles those new applicants in regard to their o=
wn processes. some suggestions was to delegate the decision to NCSG EC memb=
ers to =C2=A0confirm applications for their respective constituencies.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);b=
order-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#=
000000"><u></u><u></u><small><br></small><small><br></small><b>Maintaining =
the membership database:</b><u></u><u></u><small><br></small><small><br></s=
mall>NCSG, NCUC and NPOC are part of ICANN and should be using Internet bes=
t practices for maintaining usable and up to date membership information. T=
here are existing Internet best practices that can be drawn on to achieve t=
hose objectives.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><small><br></small><small><br></small>F=
irst, from a technical standpoint, from a user standpoint, and as reflected=
 in the expressed views of Internet savvy NCSG members, there should be one=
 master NCSG database with fields indicating NCUC and NPOC membership. This=
 would allow those with approval the ability to access one or more of the N=
CSG, NCUC and NPOC views of the database.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><small><br></s=
mall><small><br></small></div></blockquote><div>we have already one master =
NCSG database file.</div><div>the fields for constituency exist already in =
particular for those who applied with the current form, in addition to othe=
r information. however =C2=A0it need to be confirmed since the approval to =
join a constituency is done at its level and getting confirmation back. tha=
t is how I could send you for your last NPOC election the list of NPOC memb=
ers extracted from NCSG database while warning that you need to double-chec=
k if you approved them or not.</div><div><br></div><div>I am working with t=
he admin support to clean-up, consolidate the existing NCSG membership list=
 and working to update info for some organizational members after the check=
-in process for the last election.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;borde=
r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><small></small>The majority of the f=
ields in the membership database should be populated directly by field info=
rmation from the membership application form. NCSG, NCUC, and NPOC may wish=
 additional fields, either embedded in the overall NCSG database or added a=
s custom fields to an extracted subset of membership data, possibly for spe=
cial events or initiatives. The master NCSG database will always serve as t=
he membership list of record.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><small><br></small><small>=
<br></small></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yes membership database =
fields are already filled form the current form , only old records may miss=
 some information and they can populate by contacting members.=C2=A0</div><=
div>I would advise to not add more additional fields not directly related t=
o applications or aimed for specific purpose. that should be in another lis=
t/table which link to NCSG membership list.</div><div><br></div><blockquote=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:=
1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left=
:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><small></small>There are a =
number of issues with regard to the management of the membership database t=
hat require some discussion so that NCSG can take a position on them. They =
include:<u></u><u></u><small><br></small><small><br></small>1.=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Dialogue between the effort to construct the proper=
 fields for the membership application and the field information desired by=
 NCSG, NCUC and NPOC.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>NCSG EC is task=
ed to work on improving the application , and work started already. EC memb=
ers should liaise with their respective groups</div><div>=C2=A0</div><block=
quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-w=
idth:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding=
-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><u></u><u></u><small><=
br></small>2.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Where should the membershi=
p database be hosted? Should it be on an ICANN server or elsewhere?</div></=
blockquote><div><br></div><div>while we are involved in ICANN, we have to b=
e independant on our internal =C2=A0management matters. we have public =C2=
=A0NCSG membership list for transparency . I don&#39;t think any other grou=
p in GNSO is using ICANN platform for critical matter like membership but t=
hey should provide public list of the membership which is missing for many.=
</div><div>so membership database or list must be kept at NCSG.</div><div><=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-styl=
e:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><u></u>=
<u></u><small><br></small>3.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Who should =
have what levels of access to the membership database?</div></blockquote><d=
iv><br></div><div>NCSG EC and Chair are tasked to maintain the database and=
 update it (refer to NCSG charter). maybe EC for constituencies may have ac=
cess to view-only mode .</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-col=
or:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor=
=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><u></u><u></u><small><br></small>4.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Should members have password protected access to=
 their own profiles in order to update information (especially important fo=
r organizations)?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>we don&#39;t have s=
uch solution yet and this need development to support user management, auth=
entication, authorization and which data they can access. =C2=A0members jus=
t need to update records by informing the NCSG chair during the check-in el=
ection process. if an organization don&#39;t do that during a check-in peri=
od, it is unlikely to do it in other time. =C2=A0</div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;borde=
r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><di=
v bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><u></u><u></u><small><br></small>5.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Should profile access by via the ICANN =
dashboard?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>which ICANN dashboard?how =
many people from NCSG use them regularly? so many initiative launched with =
random adoption by the community or any clear added value. as software engi=
neer, I am more in favor of KISS principle (<a href=3D"http://en.wikipedia.=
org/wiki/KISS_principle" target=3D"_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIS=
S_principle</a>) , lets keep things simple and focused at this stage. any a=
dditional feature can be done later.</div><div><br></div><div>hope that hel=
ps,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div></div></div></div></div>

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On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:02:12AM +0200, William Drake ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

> For the techies here (especially Tapani, who seems the most
> familiar): Off the top of my head on my first coffee of the morning,
> a couple question arise: If we have an integrated db for all of
> NCSG, how if at all would it affect the key functionalities for
> NCUC, e.g. having data base additions feed directly into our website
> listing of members (and subscribing new members to mail lists), and
> the conduct of our elections?

It would not need to have any visible impact on those, although
some changes might be useful.

> Could we set this up in a way that Maryam just handles it for
> everyone?

How various tasks would be delegated is more of a political than
technical issue, but I was thinking along the lines of
"click-to-approve" interface for NCSG, NCUC and NPOC,
who could decide within themselves if it's the Chair
or treasurer or whoever who uses it.
Everything else should be more or less automatic.

> How would we handle a hosting transfer?

That would depend on where it'd be transferred.
Picking on Sam's message:

> On Sep 27, 2014, at 5:43 AM, Sam Lanfranco <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> > 2.      Where should the membership database be hosted? Should it be on an ICANN server or elsewhere?

I can see three obvious alternatives:

* NCUC's member database now lives in NCUC's own (virtual) server, and
  it could just as easily handle entire NCSG. (Websites of NPOC and
  NCSG could still live elsewhere, just accessing the database in
  NCUC's server.) In this case there'd be no need to transfer hosting,
  only updating the database (adding new fields and NPOC and other non-NCUC
  members of NCSG).

* A dedicated virtual server for the purpose could be purchased.
  Moving the database (so that NCUC's server would also access it
  remotely) would be trivial (assuming a similar i.e. Linux server).

* ICANN might want to offer a server (or just database in one) for NCSG.
  In this case we'd need to work with ICANN technical staff; I spoke
  about it with some of them last year, and they were a bit cautious
  about giving NCUC direct access to a database in their machines,
  so transfer would depend on them.

> > 3.      Who should have what levels of access to the membership database?

That is a good question.

First, whoever maintains the machine it lives in will rather
inevitably have full access from a technical point of view
(there are some means of splitting that but they're rather
cumbersome and hard to do well, probably not practical).
The choice here is between ICANN staff if we use their servers
and "our own people", i.e., whoever NCSG gets to do the job.

Second, from administrative point of view access can be restricted
as narrowly as we want. E.g., NPOC Chair (or whoever they nominate
as membership manager or whatever) could be limited to seeing only
NPOC members' and applicants' data and changing their NPOC membership
status, similarly for NCUC, whereas NCSG Chair &c could see all
members, and someone (perhaps just one person for NCSG) should
have "secretarial" access, i.e., ability to edit contact details &c.

> > 4. Should members have password protected access to their own
> > profiles in order to update information (especially important for
> > organizations)?

Yes.

> > 5.      Should profile access by via the ICANN dashboard?

I have no strong opinion on that but I'll have to note it is both
technical and political question and increase our dependency on ICANN.

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On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:13:52AM -0400, Sam Lanfranco ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

> *1. How would data base additions feed directly into our (NCUC)
> website listing of members? *
> Ideally, and easy to do, there could be a single operation
> (extracting a subset of a membership spreadsheet (or database) that
> produce the NCUC list.

That's what I had in mind, and indeed it is how NCUC website now works:
while the database is now in the same machine, it is used in such a way
that it could be moved elsewhere without any changes (apart from
setting the database location in where it's called).
If you want spreadsheet-style it is easy to extract CSV files
from the database, but I think it'd be better to have a simple
web interface for browsing the database (or subset thereof) directly.
(For NCUC there already is a script to produce voter list in the form
ICANN voting system needs them.)

> **2. How to handle subscriptions to mailing lists?*
> I have run dozens of mailing lists (using listserv like Milton from
> Syracuse) and as a principle we always have someone from the
> stakeholder group with co-manager/moderator authority. That should
> be the case here. For the brief time I was NPOC membership chair I
> had great difficulty determining the subscriber list for npoc-voice.
> Automating population of mailing lists from a membership spreadsheet
> is a bit of work.

But almost trivial from a real database and mailing list software
that can be easily scripted (like Mailman running NCUC's lists)
and with direct access (not just web interface!) to it.
If the database is considered to be the definitive source of
addresses and list memberships, syncing them over to Mailman
takes about three lines of code (been there, done that).

It could be done with LISTSERV(tm) as well, but it's somewhat
more complicated (especially without admin level access to
the machine running listserv). Ditto with ICANN-managed lists,
easy automated updates would require level of access they may
not want to give us.

> **3. How to compose/verify voter lists for elections?*
> The key issue is that an eligible voter list be accurate. That
> starts from an accurate overall membership list, and accurate
> mailing lists so that a step involving qualifying voters (just a
> simply email response) works as it should. This is why I suggested
> that NCSG members have access to a membership profile page somewhere
> (within the ICANN dashboard?), a profile page is first populated by
> data from a successful application, feeds the membership database,
> and can be updated by the member. This is useful when a member is
> not just from an organization, but formally represents that
> organization and may be replaced over time. Profiles could be
> updated, with notice of update sent to those who maintain the
> mailing lists. The update would get captured to NCUC and NPOC with
> periodic/frequent NCUC and NPOC membership updates from the master
> NCSG membership list.

That's close to what I had in mind, but I'd tie the profile page
directly to the master database. That way it'd be always up to date,
any changes members make to their data would be instantly visible
to anyone viewing the database (including public lists in websites).
I'm not sure how easy that would be if se use ICANN dashboard
(again, depends on what kind of access ICANN would give us).

As for verification, the scheme I wrote last year for NCUC worked
pretty well, although it could be automated even more.
Something like this:

A specified time before election (or triggered manually if preferred),
send an automated email to all members, showing their current details
and including URLs (buttons) to click either to just confirm their
activity or to change their details. A second reminder could be sent a
specified time later to those who haven't replied to the first. And of
course Chairs (&c) could at any time view the status and if desired
take manual action as well.

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Hi all !
+1 @Ephraim Percy Kenyanito.
Cheers !
-Ol=E9vi=E9-


2014-09-25 13:38 GMT+00:00 Ephraim Percy Kenyanito <[log in to unmask]>:

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>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you Seun.
>
> And thank you to Kivuva for the endorsement to Seun's nomination.
>
> I am thankful for the nomination and intend to send more text to
> support my nomination.
>
> Lastly, I do add my endorsement for Avri Dora, Lea Kaspar, Matt Shears
> and John Dada.
>
> I do believe that they will be great CS additions on the IGF MAG.
>
> - --
>
> Best Regards,
>=20
> Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
> Website: http://about.me/ekenyanito
> Tel: (+254)-786-19-19-30 / (+254)-751-804-120
> @ekenyanito
> Skype: ekenyanito
> PGP: E6BA8DC1
>
>
> On 25/09/14 14:57, Mwendwa Kivuva wrote:
> > As Anriette had indicated, it would be difficult for MAG members
> > from non-developing countries to get funding to attend physical
> > MAG meetings. It would be great to have the perspective of the
> > youth in the MAG.
> >
> > +1 for Ephraim Kenyanito
> >
> > ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya
> > twitter.com/lordmwesh <http://twitter.com/lordmwesh>
> >
> > "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men
> > walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson
> >
> > On 25 September 2014 07:27, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > I wish to submit the following nomination
> >
> > Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
> >
> > Region of residence: Africa
> >
> > Nationality: Kenya
> >
> > Gender: Male
> >
> > Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He
> > is a member of the interim steering committee for the Youth
> > Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF).
> > He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org
> >  <http://accessnow.org/>) and an affiliate at the Internet Policy
> > Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global Communication
> > Studies* *at the Annenberg School for Communication at the
> > University of Pennsylvania)
> >
> > He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African
> > regional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged
> > assertively as a panelist on Developing countries participation in
> >  global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality issues in developing
> > countries.
> >
> > In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet
> > Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
> >
> > Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with
> > various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
> >
> > Regards sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> >
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CEO de INTIC4DEV (http://www.intic4dev.org)
SG de ESTETIC  (http://www.estetic.tg)
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all !<div>+1 @Ephraim Percy Kenyanito.</div><div>Cheers=
 !</div><div>-Ol=E9vi=E9-</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-09-25 13:38 GMT+00:00 Ephraim Percy=
 Kenyanito <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
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<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Thank you Seun.<br>
<br>
And thank you to Kivuva for the endorsement to Seun&#39;s nomination.<br>
<br>
I am thankful for the nomination and intend to send more text to<br>
support my nomination.<br>
<br>
Lastly, I do add my endorsement for Avri Dora, Lea Kaspar, Matt Shears<br>
and John Dada.<br>
<br>
I do believe that they will be great CS additions on the IGF MAG.<br>
<br>
- --<br>
<br>
Best Regards,<br>
<br>
Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>
Website: <a href=3D"http://about.me/ekenyanito" target=3D"_blank">http://ab=
out.me/ekenyanito</a><br>
Tel: <a href=3D"tel:%28%2B254%29-786-19-19-30" value=3D"+254786191930">(+25=
4)-786-19-19-30</a> / <a href=3D"tel:%28%2B254%29-751-804-120" value=3D"+25=
4751804120">(+254)-751-804-120</a><br>
@ekenyanito<br>
Skype: ekenyanito<br>
PGP: E6BA8DC1<br>
<br>
<br>
On 25/09/14 14:57, Mwendwa Kivuva wrote:<br>
&gt; As Anriette had indicated, it would be difficult for MAG members<br>
&gt; from non-developing countries to get funding to attend physical<br>
&gt; MAG meetings. It would be great to have the perspective of the<br>
&gt; youth in the MAG.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; +1 for Ephraim Kenyanito<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target=3D"_blank">twitter.com=
/lordmwesh</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://twitter.com/lordmwesh" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://twitter.com/lordmwesh</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &quot;There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men<b=
r>
&gt; walk on higher ground in that lifetime.&quot; - Maxwell Anderson<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On 25 September 2014 07:27, Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seun.oj=
[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a><br>
<span class=3D"">&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I wish to submit the following nomination<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Region of residence: Africa<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Nationality: Kenya<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Gender: Male<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He<br>
&gt; is a member of the interim steering committee for the Youth<br>
&gt; Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF).<br>
&gt; He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (<a href=3D"http:=
//accessnow.org" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org</a><br>
</span>&gt;&nbsp; &lt;<a href=3D"http://accessnow.org/" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttp://accessnow.org/</a>&gt;) and an affiliate at the Internet Policy<br>
<span class=3D"">&gt; Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global C=
ommunication<br>
</span>&gt; Studies* *at the Annenberg School for Communication at the<br>
<span class=3D"">&gt; University of Pennsylvania)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African<br>
&gt; regional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged<br>
&gt; assertively as a panelist on Developing countries participation in<br>
&gt;&nbsp; global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality issues in developing<br>
&gt; countries.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet<br>
&gt; Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with<br>
&gt; various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Regards sent from Google nexus 4 kindly excuse brevity and typos.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
</span>&gt; ____________________________________________________________ Yo=
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yaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI<br>Responsable projet CERGI-Education (<a href=3D"http=
://www.cergibs.com">http://www.cergibs.com</a>) <br>CEO de INTIC4DEV (<a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.intic4dev.org">http://www.intic4dev.org</a>)<br>SG de ESTE=
TIC&nbsp; (<a href=3D"http://www.estetic.tg">http://www.estetic.tg</a>)<br>=
Membre de ISoc (<a href=3D"http://www.isoc.org">www.isoc.org</a> &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"http://www.isoc.org/">http://www.isoc.org/</a>&gt;) &amp; du FOSSFA (<=
br><a href=3D"http://www.fossfa.net">www.fossfa.net</a>) <br>ICANN-NPOC Com=
munications Committee Chair (<a href=3D"http://www.icann.org/">http://www.i=
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Rafik,

Thanks for the useful questions and comments, and thanks to Tapani for=20
his comments and his expertise. Rather than making a long response I=20
would like to extract the key points [numbered] for follow up.

The objective is to manage these two processes while making NCSG and its=20
constituency groups, best practice users of the Internet to. This will=20
reduce administrative demands on the various executives and volunteers,=20
freeing up more time to deal with substantive and policy issues.

One overarching issue has to do with how much ICANN support and=20
involvement does NCSG want. Is it is an issue of trust, of efficiency,=20
or of optics that suggests that little be hosted on ICANN servers? This=20
needs to be discussed, and decisions arrived at. There are pluses and=20
minuses whichever way one goes here. At the moment there are at least=20
three independent server sites support NCSG and constituency services.

1.We are in agreement with the idea that there should be one application=20
form for NCSG that clearly states the constituency (NCUC/NPOC/neither)=20
membership options. The form can reside on NCSG, NCUC and NPOC websites=20
and report back to admissions email boxes. With regard to application=20
improvements, there is no suggestion for over engineering, and in fact=20
the opposite. A clear and concise application form will expedite=20
application by interested parties, and expedite the admission processes=20
at both the NCSG and constituency levels.

2.Glad to hear that application improvement is being discussed,=20
including a review of appropriate fields for the admission process, and=20
what fields may be needed by NCSG, NCUC and NPOC. The key point is that=20
fields should serve both the admissions process and the ongoing work of=20
NCSG and the constituencies. Proposals for changes here (record forms=20
and fields) should be shared with NCSG members to gather member feedback=20
and draw on member expertise.

3.With regard to maintaining the membership database:Best practices for=20
maintaining the membership databases should put membership updating in=20
the hands of members. While NCSG and the constituency groups may always=20
have to chase laggards with faulty membership data, the process should=20
have self-administered membership profiles, to facilitate ease of member=20
access and to free up executive time and talents for more important work.

4.The aution not adding fields not directly related to applications or=20
aimed for specific purpose of course makes sense. Fields can be added=20
when parts of the database are imported, for local (NCUC/NPOC) use. One=20
way to facilitate that is for member profiles to contain fields for more=20
information than just what is on the membership application. This=20
doesn=E2=80=99t burden the application process, facilitates profile updat=
es, and=20
doesn=E2=80=99t take up NCSG executive time.

5.The question of where to host the membership database and services is=20
important and part of the overarching issue referenced above. Hosting=20
it, or not hosting it at ICANN, has maintenance implications, access=20
implications, and possibly political (optics) implications.

6.The issue of database access is not complicated. Below the high level=20
editing access, there can be only edit/view/export  access. NCUC and=20
NPOC can export some/all of the database and add whatever they need. The=20
NCSG Charter makes the NCSG EC and Chair responsible for maintaining and=20
updating the membership database, but that does not mean that they=20
should use valuable EC and Chair time to manually do what is an=20
administrative task. However that is done, membership profiles would=20
help. The current process of having members update records by contacting=20
the NCSG chair is needlessly burdensome and inefficient.

7.With regard to where profiles should reside, that doesn=E2=80=99t reall=
y=20
matter. The prior issue to be resolved is what services should be=20
mounted at ICANN, or elsewhere, and how profile access should be=20
managed. The profile approach respects the KISS principle, gives more=20
power to the stakeholder, and reduces labor demands on the executive and=20
administration.

The overall goal is to do these things efficiently and effective, and=20
free up executive and volunteer effort to deal with policy and other=20
matters of substance.

Sam L.

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    Rafik, <o:p></o:p><br>
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    Thanks for the useful questions and comments, and thanks to
    Tapani for his comments and his expertise. Rather than making a long
    response I
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/o:p><br>
    <br>
    The objective is to manage these two processes while making
    NCSG and its constituency groups, best practice users of the
    Internet to. This
    will reduce administrative demands on the various executives and
    volunteers,
    freeing up more time to deal with substantive and policy issues.<o:p>=
</o:p><br>
    <br>
    One overarching issue has to do with how much ICANN support
    and involvement does NCSG want. Is it is an issue of trust, of
    efficiency, or
    of optics that suggests that little be hosted on ICANN servers? This
    needs to be
    discussed, and decisions arrived at. There are pluses and minuses
    whichever way
    one goes here. <span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=C2=A0</span>At the m=
oment
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    constituency (NCUC/NPOC/neither) membership options. <span
      style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=C2=A0</span>The form can reside on NCSG=
, NCUC
    and NPOC
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      style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes">=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span>With
    regard to application improvements, there is no suggestion for over
    engineering, and in fact the opposite. A clear and concise
    application form will
    expedite application by interested parties, and expedite the
    admission processes
    at both the NCSG and constituency levels. <o:p></o:p><br>
    <o:p></o:p><br>
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    improvement is
    being discussed, including a review of appropriate fields for the
    admission
    process, and what fields may be needed by NCSG, NCUC and NPOC. The
    key point is that
    fields should serve both the admissions process and the ongoing work
    of NCSG
    and the constituencies. Proposals for changes here (record forms and
    fields) should be shared with
    NCSG members to gather member feedback and draw on member expertise.
    <o:p></o:p><br>
    <span style=3D"mso-spacerun:yes"></span><br>
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    the membership
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    While NCSG
    and the constituency groups may always have to chase laggards with
    faulty
    membership data, the process should have self-administered
    membership profiles,
    to facilitate ease of member access and to free up executive time
    and talents
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          New Roman&quot;">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
        </span></span></span><!--[endif]-->The aution not adding fields
    not directly
    related to applications or aimed for specific purpose of course
    makes sense.
    Fields can be added when parts of the database are imported, for
    local
    (NCUC/NPOC) use. One way to facilitate that is for member profiles
    to
    contain fields for more information than just what is on the
    membership
    application. This doesn=E2=80=99t burden the application process,
    facilitates profile
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he
    database and add whatever
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    for maintaining
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    they should use
    valuable EC and Chair time to manually do what is an administrative
    task. However that is done, membership
    profiles would help. The current process of having members update
    records by
    contacting the NCSG chair is
    needlessly burdensome and inefficient. <o:p></o:p><br>
    <br>
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+1 @Sam.


2014-09-27 20:07 GMT+00:00 Sam Lanfranco <[log in to unmask]>:

>  Rafik,
>
> Thanks for the useful questions and comments, and thanks to Tapani for hi=
s
> comments and his expertise. Rather than making a long response I would li=
ke
> to extract the key points [numbered] for follow up.
>
> The objective is to manage these two processes while making NCSG and its
> constituency groups, best practice users of the Internet to. This will
> reduce administrative demands on the various executives and volunteers,
> freeing up more time to deal with substantive and policy issues.
>
> One overarching issue has to do with how much ICANN support and
> involvement does NCSG want. Is it is an issue of trust, of efficiency, or
> of optics that suggests that little be hosted on ICANN servers? This need=
s
> to be discussed, and decisions arrived at. There are pluses and minuses
> whichever way one goes here.  At the moment there are at least three
> independent server sites support NCSG and constituency services.
>
> 1.      We are in agreement with the idea that there should be one
> application form for NCSG that clearly states the constituency
> (NCUC/NPOC/neither) membership options.  The form can reside on NCSG,
> NCUC and NPOC websites and report back to admissions email boxes.    With
> regard to application improvements, there is no suggestion for over
> engineering, and in fact the opposite. A clear and concise application fo=
rm
> will expedite application by interested parties, and expedite the admissi=
on
> processes at both the NCSG and constituency levels.
>
> 2.      Glad to hear that application improvement is being discussed,
> including a review of appropriate fields for the admission process, and
> what fields may be needed by NCSG, NCUC and NPOC. The key point is that
> fields should serve both the admissions process and the ongoing work of
> NCSG and the constituencies. Proposals for changes here (record forms and
> fields) should be shared with NCSG members to gather member feedback and
> draw on member expertise.
>
> 3.     With regard to maintaining the membership database: Best practices
> for maintaining the membership databases should put membership updating i=
n
> the hands of members. While NCSG and the constituency groups may always
> have to chase laggards with faulty membership data, the process should ha=
ve
> self-administered membership profiles, to facilitate ease of member acces=
s
> and to free up executive time and talents for more important work.
>
> 4.      The aution not adding fields not directly related to applications
> or aimed for specific purpose of course makes sense. Fields can be added
> when parts of the database are imported, for local (NCUC/NPOC) use. One w=
ay
> to facilitate that is for member profiles to contain fields for more
> information than just what is on the membership application. This doesn't
> burden the application process, facilitates profile updates, and doesn't
> take up NCSG executive time.
>
>  5.      The question of where to host the membership database and
> services is important and part of the overarching issue referenced above.
> Hosting it, or not hosting it at ICANN, has maintenance implications,
> access implications, and possibly political (optics) implications.
>
> 6.      The issue of database access is not complicated. Below the high
> level editing access, there can be only edit/view/export  access. NCUC an=
d
> NPOC can export some/all of the database and add whatever they need. The
> NCSG Charter makes the NCSG EC and Chair responsible for maintaining and
> updating the membership database, but that does not mean that they should
> use valuable EC and Chair time to manually do what is an administrative
> task. However that is done, membership profiles would help. The current
> process of having members update records by contacting the NCSG chair is
> needlessly burdensome and inefficient.
>
>  7.       With regard to where profiles should reside, that doesn't
> really matter. The prior issue to be resolved is what services should be
> mounted at ICANN, or elsewhere, and how profile access should be managed.
> The profile approach respects the KISS principle, gives more power to the
> stakeholder, and reduces labor demands on the executive and administratio=
n.
>
> The overall goal is to do these things efficiently and effective, and fre=
e
> up executive and volunteer effort to deal with policy and other matters o=
f
> substance.
>
> Sam L.
>



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CEO de INTIC4DEV (http://www.intic4dev.org)
SG de ESTETIC  (http://www.estetic.tg)
Membre de ISoc (www.isoc.org <http://www.isoc.org/>) & du FOSSFA (
www.fossfa.net)
ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (http://www.icann.org/ et
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r><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-09-27 20:07 GMT+00:00 Sam Lanfranco <span=
 dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">lanf=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
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    Rafik, <u></u><u></u><br>
    <br>
    Thanks for the useful questions and comments, and thanks to
    Tapani for his comments and his expertise. Rather than making a long
    response I
    would like to extract the key points [numbered] for follow up. <u></u><=
u></u><br>
    <br>
    The objective is to manage these two processes while making
    NCSG and its constituency groups, best practice users of the
    Internet to. This
    will reduce administrative demands on the various executives and
    volunteers,
    freeing up more time to deal with substantive and policy issues.<u></u>=
<u></u><br>
    <br>
    One overarching issue has to do with how much ICANN support
    and involvement does NCSG want. Is it is an issue of trust, of
    efficiency, or
    of optics that suggests that little be hosted on ICANN servers? This
    needs to be
    discussed, and decisions arrived at. There are pluses and minuses
    whichever way
    one goes here. <span>&nbsp;</span>At the moment
    there are at least
    three independent server sites support NCSG and constituency
    services. <u></u><u></u><br>
    <br>
    <span><span>1.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
        </span></span></span>We are in agreement with the
    idea that there
    should be one application form for NCSG that clearly states the
    constituency (NCUC/NPOC/neither) membership options. <span>&nbsp;</span=
>The form can reside on NCSG, NCUC
    and NPOC
    websites and report back to admissions email boxes. <span>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span>With
    regard to application improvements, there is no suggestion for over
    engineering, and in fact the opposite. A clear and concise
    application form will
    expedite application by interested parties, and expedite the
    admission processes
    at both the NCSG and constituency levels. <u></u><u></u><br>
    <u></u><u></u><br>
    <span><span>2.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
        </span></span></span>Glad to hear that application
    improvement is
    being discussed, including a review of appropriate fields for the
    admission
    process, and what fields may be needed by NCSG, NCUC and NPOC. The
    key point is that
    fields should serve both the admissions process and the ongoing work
    of NCSG
    and the constituencies. Proposals for changes here (record forms and
    fields) should be shared with
    NCSG members to gather member feedback and draw on member expertise.
    <u></u><u></u><br>
    <span></span><br>
    <span><span>3.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></span></span>=
With regard to
    maintaining
    the membership database:<u></u><u></u> Best practices for maintaining
    the membership
    databases should put membership updating in the hands of members.
    While NCSG
    and the constituency groups may always have to chase laggards with
    faulty
    membership data, the process should have self-administered
    membership profiles,
    to facilitate ease of member access and to free up executive time
    and talents
    for more important work. <u></u><u></u><br>
    <br>
    <u></u><u></u><span><span>4.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
        </span></span></span>The aution not adding fields
    not directly
    related to applications or aimed for specific purpose of course
    makes sense.
    Fields can be added when parts of the database are imported, for
    local
    (NCUC/NPOC) use. One way to facilitate that is for member profiles
    to
    contain fields for more information than just what is on the
    membership
    application. This doesn&rsquo;t burden the application process,
    facilitates profile
    updates, and doesn&rsquo;t take up NCSG executive time.<span>&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; </span><u></u><u></u><br>
    <br>
    <u></u>&nbsp;<u></u><span><span>5.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
        </span></span></span>The question of where to host
    the membership database
    and services is important and part of the overarching issue
    referenced above. Hosting it, or not hosting it at ICANN, has
    maintenance
    implications, access implications, and possibly political (optics)
    implications.<u></u><u></u><br>
    &nbsp;&nbsp;
    <br>
    <span><span>6.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
        </span></span></span>The issue of database access
    is not complicated.
    Below the high level editing access, there can be only
    edit/view/export&nbsp; access. NCUC and NPOC can export some/all of the
    database and add whatever
    they need. The NCSG Charter makes the NCSG EC and Chair responsible
    for maintaining
    and updating the membership database, but that does not mean that
    they should use
    valuable EC and Chair time to manually do what is an administrative
    task. However that is done, membership
    profiles would help. The current process of having members update
    records by
    contacting the NCSG chair is
    needlessly burdensome and inefficient. <u></u><u></u><br>
    <br>
    <u></u>&nbsp;<u></u><span><span>7.<span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
        </span></span></span><span>&nbsp;</span>With
    regard to where profiles should reside, that doesn&rsquo;t really matte=
r.
    The prior
    issue to be resolved is what services should be mounted at ICANN, or
    elsewhere,
    and how profile access should be managed. The profile approach
    respects the
    KISS principle, gives more power to the stakeholder, and reduces
    labor demands
    on the executive and administration. <u></u><u></u><br>
    <br>
    The overall goal is to do these things efficiently and effective,
    and free up executive and volunteer effort to deal with policy and
    other matters of substance. <br>
    <br>
    Sam L. <br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Ol=E9vi=E9 A=
yaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI<br>Responsable projet CERGI-Education (<a href=3D"http=
://www.cergibs.com">http://www.cergibs.com</a>) <br>CEO de INTIC4DEV (<a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.intic4dev.org">http://www.intic4dev.org</a>)<br>SG de ESTE=
TIC&nbsp; (<a href=3D"http://www.estetic.tg">http://www.estetic.tg</a>)<br>=
Membre de ISoc (<a href=3D"http://www.isoc.org">www.isoc.org</a> &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"http://www.isoc.org/">http://www.isoc.org/</a>&gt;) &amp; du FOSSFA (<=
br><a href=3D"http://www.fossfa.net">www.fossfa.net</a>) <br>ICANN-NPOC Com=
munications Committee Chair (<a href=3D"http://www.icann.org/">http://www.i=
cann.org/</a> et <a href=3D"http://www.npoc.org/">http://www.npoc.org/</a>)=
<br>BP : 851 - T=E9l.: (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72 <br>Skype : ol=
evie1 FB : @olivier.kouami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lom=E9 &ndash; Togo<br><br>
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Date:         Sat, 27 Sep 2014 15:38:25 -0700
Reply-To:     Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>
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From:         Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Fwd: Specific Suggestions to Improve ICANN's Plan for "Enhancing
              Accountability": Don't Narrow Scope; Clarify Roles of "Experts"
              as Advisors,
              Need Independent Accountability; ICANN is Not a Stakeholder and
              Must Provide for Its Conflict of Interest; Community Should Drive
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Below are the comments I just submitted to ICANN's public comment period =
on accountability.

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Specific Suggestions to Improve ICANN's Plan for "Enhancing =
Accountability": Don't Narrow Scope; Clarify Roles of "Experts" as =
Advisors, Need Independent Accountability; ICANN is Not a Stakeholder =
and Must Provide for Its Conflict of Interest; Community Should Drive =
the Process
> Date: September 27, 2014 3:35:15 PM PDT
> To: [log in to unmask]
>=20
> Thank you for accepting public comment on this important issue =
addressing the legitimacy and accountability of an institution that =
provides Internet governance services to the global community, ICANN.  =
While it is unfortunate that ICANN refused to entertain community =
drafted proposals on this effort to address the organization's =
accountability crisis, I do appreciate this opportunity to provide =
comment on the plan created by ICANN staff.
>=20
> I support the cross community statement submitted by RySG, RrSG, =
Business Constituency, Intellectual Property Constituency, ISP =
Constituency, & ALAC:
> =
http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-enhancing-accountability-06sep14/msg=
00009.html
>=20
> A few points should be emphasized and added, however:
>=20
> Scope of Accountability Improvements Must NOT be Narrowed
>=20
> ICANN should not be permitted to limit the scope of this =
accountability effort as it appears to be doing in its 18 Sept. letter =
to leadership.  ICANN's claims about the need to narrow the scope of the =
accountability work to only those accountability issues that relate =
specifically to the IANA stewardship transition should be rejected.  =
There is no logical reason to limit the scope of the group's work, =
except to stifle the community from exploring accountability issues that =
ICANN would rather not be explored.  ICANN's attempt to limit the scope =
of accountability efforts is an example of where ICANN's conflict of =
interest unfortunately influences its handling of the issue in the =
overall process.
>=20
> Only Stakeholders Should be Included in Consensus Calls
>=20
> Decisions on the coordination group should be made by the =
stake-holders whom ICANN was established to serve, not appointed =
"experts", ICANN staff, or board.  Experts should serve in an advisory =
role, providing expertise to the stakeholders as requested, but should =
not comprise the decision making body nor consensus calls.  ICANN Board =
and Staff should serve in liaison and informational roles in =
coordination group and not comprise the decision making body nor =
consensus calls.  Stakeholder representatives should be provided =
"alternates" to assist with work on the coordination group.  ICANN often =
claims to be legitimate because its governance decisions are made via =
bottom-up processes.  "Bottom-up" decision making requires that those =
people who are impacted by the decisions should be making them.  It is =
the democratic principle of self-governance which ICANN should be =
incorporating into its structures including the organization's critical =
accountability efforts.  The community should drive this process, not =
staff nor board of ICANN, and not appointed experts.
>=20
> Provide for Independent Accountability Mechanisms
>=20
> The importance of an independent mechanism that ensures ICANN will be =
accountable to the community it serves cannot be underscored enough.  =
None of ICANN's existing accountability mechanisms are independent from =
the board and thus all accountability improvements depend on the =
agreement of ICANN's board of directors to implement.  While trust is =
important and a necessary precondition to productive engagement, trust =
alone is insufficient for building a robust governance system that is =
capable of remaining accountability irrespective of the individuals =
serving in official or decision making capacities.  The goal is to build =
a system that doesn't have to rely on trusting the specific individuals =
who make decisions.  We should build a governance system with robust =
checks and balances and independent mechanisms that ensure =
accountability in the absence of trust and regardless of motivations.
>=20
> Board Rejection of Accountability Recommendations
>=20
> Neither ICANN's Board nor staff should be allowed to reject the =
recommendations of the group without going through the community =
engagement process described in the cross community submission.  I =
appreciate the staff's effort to require some engagement with the =
community should the board wish to reject recommendations, however I =
believe the process for rejection outlined in the cross community =
submission more appropriately handles the various interests at play.
>=20
> New "Other" Category Invites Gaming, Discourages Engagement in Process
>=20
> I have concern about the opportunity for "capture" or "gaming of the =
system" from the creation of the new "other" category of stakeholder.  =
Stakeholders should make decisions, and ICANN has already provided for a =
mechanism to incorporate all the various significant interests or =
stakeholders via the SO/AC model.  Creating the "other" category seems =
ripe for gaming and incentivizing people to NOT engage in the ICANN =
process, but rather remain an "other", separate from the process in =
order to obtain disproportionately high representation rights in the =
overall process.=20
>=20
> ICANN is Not a Stakeholder and Must Address Conflict Issues
>=20
> ICANN the corporation is not a stakeholder in the way that the =
community members are as alleged by ICANN in its plan's "rationale" and =
the corporation does have a conflict of interest in the underlying =
subject matter that must be dealt with.  It was disappointing that =
despite the numerous comments in the previous round calling for =
attention to the issue of ICANN's conflict of interest in the underlying =
subject, ICANN has still been unwilling to acknowledge its conflict of =
interest, nor provide any strategy to reassure the community that it can =
be adequately addressed.
>=20
> Respectfully Submitted,
> Robin Gross
> IP Justice
>=20
>=20
> * Note: While I am a member of ICANN's Non-Commercial Stakeholders =
Group and presently serve on NCSG's Executive Committee, I submit this =
comment in my personal capacity as an active participant at ICANN for =
more than a decade.


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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Below =
are the comments I just submitted to ICANN's public comment period on =
accountability.<br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Robin Gross &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;<br></span>=
</div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: =
</b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;"><b>Specific Suggestions to Improve ICANN's Plan for =
"Enhancing Accountability": Don't Narrow Scope; Clarify Roles of =
"Experts" as Advisors, Need Independent Accountability; ICANN is Not a =
Stakeholder and Must Provide for Its Conflict of Interest; Community =
Should Drive the Process</b><br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, =
1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;">September 27, 2014 3:35:15 PM =
PDT<br></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span =
style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, =
1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica'; =
font-size:medium;"><a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">commen=
[log in to unmask]</a><br></span></div><br><div=
 style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Thank you for accepting =
public comment on this important issue addressing the legitimacy and =
accountability of an institution that provides Internet governance =
services to the global community, ICANN. &nbsp;While it is unfortunate =
that ICANN refused to entertain community drafted proposals on this =
effort to address the organization's accountability crisis, I do =
appreciate this opportunity to provide comment on the plan created by =
ICANN staff.</div><div><br></div><div>I support the cross community =
statement submitted by RySG, RrSG, Business Constituency, Intellectual =
Property Constituency, ISP Constituency, &amp; ALAC:</div><div><a =
href=3D"http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-enhancing-accountability-06s=
ep14/msg00009.html">http://forum.icann.org/lists/comments-enhancing-accoun=
tability-06sep14/msg00009.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>A few points =
should be emphasized and added, =
however:</div><div><br></div><div><b>Scope of Accountability =
Improvements Must NOT be =
Narrowed</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>ICANN should not be =
permitted to limit the scope of this accountability effort as it appears =
to be doing in its 18 Sept. letter to leadership. &nbsp;ICANN's claims =
about the need to narrow the scope of the accountability work to only =
those accountability issues that relate specifically to the IANA =
stewardship transition should be rejected. &nbsp;There is no logical =
reason to limit the scope of the group's work, except to stifle the =
community from exploring accountability issues that ICANN would rather =
not be explored. &nbsp;ICANN's attempt to limit the scope of =
accountability efforts is an example of where ICANN's conflict of =
interest unfortunately influences its handling of the issue in the =
overall process.</div><div><br></div><div><b>Only Stakeholders Should be =
Included in Consensus Calls</b></div><div><br></div><div>Decisions on =
the coordination group should be made by the stake-holders whom ICANN =
was established to serve, not appointed "experts", ICANN staff, or =
board. &nbsp;Experts should serve in an advisory role, providing =
expertise to the stakeholders as requested, but should not comprise the =
decision making body nor consensus calls. &nbsp;ICANN Board and Staff =
should serve in liaison and informational roles in coordination group =
and not comprise the decision making body nor consensus calls. =
&nbsp;Stakeholder representatives should be provided "alternates" to =
assist with work on the coordination group. &nbsp;ICANN often claims to =
be legitimate because its governance decisions are made via bottom-up =
processes. &nbsp;"Bottom-up" decision making requires that those people =
who are impacted by the decisions should be making them. &nbsp;It is the =
democratic principle of self-governance which ICANN should be =
incorporating into its structures including the organization's critical =
accountability efforts. &nbsp;The community should drive this process, =
not staff nor board of ICANN, and not appointed =
experts.</div><div><br></div><div><b>Provide for Independent =
Accountability Mechanisms</b></div><div><br></div><div>The importance of =
an <u>independent</u>&nbsp;mechanism that ensures ICANN will be =
accountable to the community it serves cannot be underscored enough. =
&nbsp;None of ICANN's existing accountability mechanisms are independent =
from the board and thus all accountability improvements depend on the =
agreement of ICANN's board of directors to implement. &nbsp;While trust =
is important and a necessary precondition to productive engagement, =
trust alone is insufficient for building a robust governance system that =
is capable of remaining accountability irrespective of the individuals =
serving in official or decision making capacities. &nbsp;The goal is to =
build a system that doesn't have to rely on trusting the specific =
individuals who make decisions. &nbsp;We should build a governance =
system with robust checks and balances and independent mechanisms that =
ensure accountability in the absence of trust and regardless of =
motivations.</div><div><br></div><div><b>Board Rejection of =
Accountability Recommendations</b></div><div><br></div><div>Neither =
ICANN's Board nor staff should be allowed to reject the recommendations =
of the group without going through the community engagement process =
described in the cross community submission. &nbsp;I appreciate the =
staff's effort to require some engagement with the community should the =
board wish to reject recommendations, however I believe the process for =
rejection outlined in the cross community submission more appropriately =
handles the various interests at play.</div><div><br></div><div><b>New =
"Other" Category Invites Gaming, Discourages Engagement in =
Process</b></div><div><br></div><div>I have concern about the =
opportunity for "capture" or "gaming of the system" from the creation of =
the new "other" category of stakeholder. &nbsp;Stakeholders should make =
decisions, and ICANN has already provided for a mechanism to incorporate =
all the various significant interests or stakeholders via the SO/AC =
model. &nbsp;Creating the "other" category seems ripe for gaming and =
incentivizing people to NOT engage in the ICANN process, but rather =
remain an "other", separate from the process in order to obtain =
disproportionately high representation rights in the overall =
process.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><b>ICANN is Not a Stakeholder =
and Must Address Conflict Issues</b></div><div><br></div><div>ICANN the =
corporation is not a stakeholder in the way that the community members =
are as alleged by ICANN in its plan's "rationale" and the corporation =
does have a conflict of interest in the underlying subject matter that =
must be dealt with. &nbsp;It was disappointing that despite the numerous =
comments in the previous round calling for attention to the issue of =
ICANN's conflict of interest in the underlying subject, ICANN has still =
been unwilling to acknowledge its conflict of interest, nor provide any =
strategy to reassure the community that it can be adequately =
addressed.</div><div><br></div><div>Respectfully =
Submitted,</div><div>Robin Gross</div><div>IP =
Justice</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>* Note: While I am a =
member of ICANN's Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group and presently serve =
on NCSG's Executive Committee, I submit this comment in my personal =
capacity as an active participant at ICANN for more than a =
decade.</div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>=

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Date:         Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:42:26 -0400
Reply-To:     Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>
Sender:       NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]>
From:         Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi,

I still believe that the two applications processes

- to join the NCSG
- to join a constituency

Should be completely de-coupled.

To link them gives the impression that joining a constituency is the
norm and is an expectation is not a requirement.  It isn't.  It is an
extra membership that one should consider carefully once they have been
a NCSG for a while.

I do believe that there should be a single database with sufficient
access control to allow anyone in the world to see who is a member of
the NCSG and of any of its constituencies to meet transparency
requirements, with all other information restricted to the member and a
secretariat function.

avri


On 27-Sep-14 16:07, Sam Lanfranco wrote:
> Rafik,
>=20
> Thanks for the useful questions and comments, and thanks to Tapani for
> his comments and his expertise. Rather than making a long response I
> would like to extract the key points [numbered] for follow up.
>=20
> The objective is to manage these two processes while making NCSG and it=
s
> constituency groups, best practice users of the Internet to. This will
> reduce administrative demands on the various executives and volunteers,
> freeing up more time to deal with substantive and policy issues.
>=20
> One overarching issue has to do with how much ICANN support and
> involvement does NCSG want. Is it is an issue of trust, of efficiency,
> or of optics that suggests that little be hosted on ICANN servers? This
> needs to be discussed, and decisions arrived at. There are pluses and
> minuses whichever way one goes here. At the moment there are at least
> three independent server sites support NCSG and constituency services.
>=20
> 1.We are in agreement with the idea that there should be one applicatio=
n
> form for NCSG that clearly states the constituency (NCUC/NPOC/neither)
> membership options. The form can reside on NCSG, NCUC and NPOC websites
> and report back to admissions email boxes. With regard to application
> improvements, there is no suggestion for over engineering, and in fact
> the opposite. A clear and concise application form will expedite
> application by interested parties, and expedite the admission processes
> at both the NCSG and constituency levels.
>=20
> 2.Glad to hear that application improvement is being discussed,
> including a review of appropriate fields for the admission process, and
> what fields may be needed by NCSG, NCUC and NPOC. The key point is that
> fields should serve both the admissions process and the ongoing work of
> NCSG and the constituencies. Proposals for changes here (record forms
> and fields) should be shared with NCSG members to gather member feedbac=
k
> and draw on member expertise.
>=20
> 3.With regard to maintaining the membership database:Best practices for
> maintaining the membership databases should put membership updating in
> the hands of members. While NCSG and the constituency groups may always
> have to chase laggards with faulty membership data, the process should
> have self-administered membership profiles, to facilitate ease of membe=
r
> access and to free up executive time and talents for more important wor=
k.
>=20
> 4.The aution not adding fields not directly related to applications or
> aimed for specific purpose of course makes sense. Fields can be added
> when parts of the database are imported, for local (NCUC/NPOC) use. One
> way to facilitate that is for member profiles to contain fields for mor=
e
> information than just what is on the membership application. This
> doesn=E2=80=99t burden the application process, facilitates profile upd=
ates, and
> doesn=E2=80=99t take up NCSG executive time.
>=20
> 5.The question of where to host the membership database and services is
> important and part of the overarching issue referenced above. Hosting
> it, or not hosting it at ICANN, has maintenance implications, access
> implications, and possibly political (optics) implications.
>=20
> 6.The issue of database access is not complicated. Below the high level
> editing access, there can be only edit/view/export  access. NCUC and
> NPOC can export some/all of the database and add whatever they need. Th=
e
> NCSG Charter makes the NCSG EC and Chair responsible for maintaining an=
d
> updating the membership database, but that does not mean that they
> should use valuable EC and Chair time to manually do what is an
> administrative task. However that is done, membership profiles would
> help. The current process of having members update records by contactin=
g
> the NCSG chair is needlessly burdensome and inefficient.
>=20
> 7.With regard to where profiles should reside, that doesn=E2=80=99t rea=
lly
> matter. The prior issue to be resolved is what services should be
> mounted at ICANN, or elsewhere, and how profile access should be
> managed. The profile approach respects the KISS principle, gives more
> power to the stakeholder, and reduces labor demands on the executive an=
d
> administration.
>=20
> The overall goal is to do these things efficiently and effective, and
> free up executive and volunteer effort to deal with policy and other
> matters of substance.
>=20
> Sam L.
>=20
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Avri makes a valid point here, and it is up to NCSG to decide how it 
wants to handle this.

There could be:
1. An NCSG membership application, also listing the options for NCUC and 
NPOC membership, and a place on the form where applicants can apply.
2. An NCSG membership application, information about NCSG or NPOC 
membership options, the requirements, and where to go online to apply.

The extent of decoupling and which process to use should be NCSG 
membership policy decisions.

Sam

On 27/09/2014 11:42 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I still believe that the two applications processes
>
> - to join the NCSG
> - to join a constituency
>
> Should be completely de-coupled.
>
> To link them gives the impression that joining a constituency is the
> norm and is an expectation is not a requirement.  It isn't.  It is an
> extra membership that one should consider carefully once they have been
> a NCSG for a while.
>
> I do believe that there should be a single database with sufficient
> access control to allow anyone in the world to see who is a member of
> the NCSG and of any of its constituencies to meet transparency
> requirements, with all other information restricted to the member and a
> secretariat function.
>
> avri
>
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Date:         Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:30:40 +0300
Reply-To:     Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]>
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On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:52:32PM +0900, Rafik Dammak ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

> we have already one master NCSG database file.

Yes, but unless I'm mistaken, it's just a spreadsheet you maintain
manually, while NCUC and NPOC maintain theirs separately, without
any systematic synchronizing of changes &c.

> I am working with the admin support to clean-up, consolidate the existing
> NCSG membership list and working to update info for some organizational
> members after the check-in process for the last election.

Which is very useful, but could be much easier with proper database
for it.

> I would advise to not add more additional fields not directly related to
> applications or aimed for specific purpose. that should be in another
> list/table which link to NCSG membership list.

In a relational database it would be easy to add new tables linked
to the main member table.

> > 2.      Where should the membership database be hosted? Should it be on an
> > ICANN server or elsewhere?
> >
> 
> while we are involved in ICANN, we have to be independant on our internal
>  management matters. we have public  NCSG membership list for transparency
> . I don't think any other group in GNSO is using ICANN platform for
> critical matter like membership but they should provide public list of the
> membership which is missing for many.
> so membership database or list must be kept at NCSG.

I tend to agree with this, even if it means a bit more effort from NCSG.
Having our own database in our own server would be ideal in this respect
(like NCUC does now). Feeding data back to ICANN's Confluence wiki could
be easily automated to some extent, as desired (even though Confluence
is, eh, not quite as flexible as one might hope).

> > 3.      Who should have what levels of access to the membership database?
>
> NCSG EC and Chair are tasked to maintain the database and update it (refer
> to NCSG charter). maybe EC for constituencies may have access to view-only
> mode .

That would be very easy to arrange. They might also have write access
to constituency membership status (could be in a separate table) or
whatever constituency-specific tables they desire.

> > 4.      Should members have password protected access to their own
> > profiles in order to update information (especially important for
> > organizations)?
>
> we don't have such solution yet and this need development to support user
> management, authentication, authorization and which data they can access.

True. It would need some work to implement that, but not all that much,
given that we don't really need ultra-high-secure system.

> members just need to update records by informing the NCSG chair during the
> check-in election process. if an organization don't do that during a
> check-in period, it is unlikely to do it in other time.

Yes, but it would be easier on them as well as on you if they could
simply update it in a web form. If a check-in message contains
a direct link to such a form, it would be even easier.

> > 5.      Should profile access by via the ICANN dashboard?
> >
> 
> which ICANN dashboard?how many people from NCSG use them regularly?

I suspect most NCSG members don't even know what it is...

-- 
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On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 04:07:07PM -0400, Sam Lanfranco ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

> One overarching issue has to do with how much ICANN support and
> involvement does NCSG want. Is it is an issue of trust, of
> efficiency, or of optics that suggests that little be hosted on
> ICANN servers?

Yes. Historically trust (and "optics" as you put it) has been a big
factor there, but efficiency is also relevant, in particular that
ICANN tends to move somewhat slowly and their staff, while
compenetent, doesn't always understand our needs or don't have the
resources to provide the flexibility we'd like.

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Tapani Tarvainen
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On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:42:26PM -0400, Avri Doria ([log in to unmask]) wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I still believe that the two applications processes
> 
> - to join the NCSG
> - to join a constituency
> 
> Should be completely de-coupled.
> 
> To link them gives the impression that joining a constituency is the
> norm and is an expectation is not a requirement.  It isn't.  It is an
> extra membership that one should consider carefully once they have been
> a NCSG for a while.

This is a political question. Technically it is easy enough to do
either way, regardless of the database solution used.
It is also easy to change at any time, just remove the tick boxes
for joining constituencies in the NCSG application form, or change
their shape or whatever.

Given the way constituencies now work (and SG doesn't) in recruiting
new members to their own ranks it makes sense to keep constituency
application in the same form, but I suspect that's exactly what you
want to change... anyway, as noted, it's not a technical issue.

> I do believe that there should be a single database with sufficient
> access control to allow anyone in the world to see who is a member of
> the NCSG and of any of its constituencies to meet transparency
> requirements, with all other information restricted to the member and a
> secretariat function.

Agreed.

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Tapani Tarvainen
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I wish to endorse the following nomination

Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito

Region of residence: Africa

Nationality: Kenya

On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> I wish to submit the following nomination
>
> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>
> Region of residence: Africa
>
> Nationality: Kenya
>
> Gender: Male
>
> Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He is a
member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet
Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate at the
Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global
Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at the
University of Pennsylvania)
>
> He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African regional
level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a
panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net
Neutrality issues in developing countries.
>
> In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet Governance
in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
>
> Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with various
stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
>
> Regards
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.

-- 
WISDOM DONKOR
Sosftware / Network Engineer
Web/Open Government Platform Portal Specialist
National Information Technology Agency (NITA)
Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana
Tel; +233 20 812881
Email: [log in to unmask]
[log in to unmask]
[log in to unmask]
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I wish to endorse the following nomination<br><br>Name: Ephraim Percy Kenya=
nito<br><br>Region of residence: Africa<br><br>Nationality: Kenya<br><br>On=
 Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seun.ojed=
[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I wish to subm=
it the following nomination<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<b=
r>&gt;<br>&gt; Region of residence: Africa<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nationality: Ken=
ya<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Gender: Male<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ephraim brings a youth from=
 developing=C2=A0countries=C2=A0perspective. He is=C2=A0a member of the int=
erim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a D=
ynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at=
 Access (<a href=3D"http://accessnow.org">accessnow.org</a>) and an affilia=
te at=C2=A0the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for=
 Global Communication Studies=C2=A0at the Annenberg School for Communicatio=
n at the University of Pennsylvania)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; He is a=C2=A0previous =
attendee at IGF at both the global and African regional level and more rece=
ntly in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a panelist on Developing co=
untries participation in global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality issues in deve=
loping countries.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In addition, he is a fellow of the Africa=
n School on Internet Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).<br>=
&gt;<br>&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging wit=
h various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.<br>&gt;<br>&g=
t; Regards<br>&gt; sent from Google nexus 4<br>&gt; kindly excuse brevity a=
nd typos.<br><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>WISDOM DONKOR<br></div><div>S=
osftware / Network Engineer<br></div>Web/Open Government Platform Portal Sp=
ecialist<br><div><div>National Information Technology Agency (NITA) <br></d=
iv><div>Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana</div><div>Tel; =
+233 20 812881</div><div>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:w=
[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><b=
r></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">wisdo=
[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div>Skype: wisdom_dk</div><div>facebook: faceb=
ook@wisdom_dk<br></div><div>Website: <a href=3D"http://www.nita.gov.gh" tar=
get=3D"_blank">www.nita.gov.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www.data.gov.gh" tar=
get=3D"_blank">www.data.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.isoc=
.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.isoc.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www.itag.org.gh"=
 target=3D"_blank">www.itag.org.gh</a> <br><br></div></div></div><br>

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Thank you for the details.
Access was a great problem on the meeting day.

Best regards.

Sonigitu Ekpe

Mobile +234 805 0232 469    Office + 234 802 751 0179
 "LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving"


On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Ol=E9vi=E9 Kouami <[log in to unmask]
m>
wrote:

> Thank you Maryam.
> And sorry for the absence due to a lack of Internet connection from where
> I am at the moment of the meeting.
> I've read the transcript and will listen to the recording.
> Thanks again and keep up the great work.
>
> PS : I have also noticed that all the NPOC EXCOM members were present.
> Congrats !
> Cheers !
> -Ol=E9vi=E9-
>
>
> 2014-09-25 8:29 GMT+00:00 Maryam Bakoshi <[log in to unmask]>:
>
>>   Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please find attached/below the transcript, attendance, and MP3 recording
>> of the NCSG Monthly call held on the 23rd September 2014.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Attendees*: Rafik Dammak, Rudi Vansnick,  Avri Doria,  Klaus Stoll,
>> Marilia Maciel, Sam Lanfranco, Stephanie Perrin, Robin Gross, Bill Drake=
,
>> David Cake
>>
>>
>>
>> *Apologies:* Carlos Guttierrez, Magaly Pazello
>>
>>
>>
>> *Staff:*  Maryam Bakoshi, Nathalie Peregrine, Benedetta Rossi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *MP3 recording: *
>> https://icann.box.com/shared/static/914sm51mmwlipc7a1j72.mp3
>>
>>
>>   Many thanks,
>> --
>>
>> Maryam Bakoshi
>>
>> *Secretariat - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC*
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>
>>
>>  *Email:*  [log in to unmask]
>>
>> *Mobile:*  +44 7737 698036
>>
>> *Skype:*  maryam.bakoshi.icann
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Ol=E9vi=E9 Ayaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI
> Responsable projet CERGI-Education (http://www.cergibs.com)
> CEO de INTIC4DEV (http://www.intic4dev.org)
> SG de ESTETIC  (http://www.estetic.tg)
> Membre de ISoc (www.isoc.org <http://www.isoc.org/>) & du FOSSFA (
> www.fossfa.net)
> ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (http://www.icann.org/ et
> http://www.npoc.org/)
> BP : 851 - T=E9l.: (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72
> Skype : olevie1 FB : @olivier.kouami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lom=E9 - Togo
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Thank you for the details.</div><div>Access was a gre=
at problem on the meeting day.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Best regards.</di=
v></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Sonigitu Ekpe <br><br>Mobile +234 805 0232 469&nbsp; &nbsp; Office + 234 80=
2 751 0179 <br>&nbsp;&quot;LIFE is all about love and thanksgiving&quot; <b=
r><br></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Ol=E9vi=E9=
 Kouami <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you Maryam.<div>And sorry for t=
he absence due to a lack of Internet connection from where I am at the mome=
nt of the meeting.</div><div>I&#39;ve read the transcript and will listen t=
o the recording.</div><div>Thanks again and keep up the great work.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>PS : I have also noticed that all the NPOC EXCOM members =
were present. Congrats !</div><div>Cheers !</div><div>-Ol=E9vi=E9-</div><di=
v><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote">2014-09-25 8:29 GMT+00:00 Maryam Bakoshi <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb=
(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">



<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14p=
x">
<div>
<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size:11pt">Dear All,</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<span>
<div>
<div style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14p=
x">
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&nbsp;<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Please find a=
ttached/below the transcript, attendance, and MP3 recording of the NCSG Mon=
thly call held on the 23rd September 2014.&nbsp;<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<b><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Attendees<=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">: R=
afik Dammak, Rudi Vansnick, &nbsp;Avri Doria, &nbsp;Klaus Stoll, Marilia Ma=
ciel, Sam Lanfranco, Stephanie Perrin,
 Robin Gross, Bill Drake, David Cake<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<b><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Apologies:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&n=
bsp;Carlos Guttierrez, Magaly Pazello<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&nbsp;<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<b><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Staff:</sp=
an></b><span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&nbsp;=
 Maryam Bakoshi, Nathalie Peregrine, Benedetta Rossi<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&nbsp;</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&nbsp;<u></u>=
<u></u></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11p=
t">
<b>MP3 recording:&nbsp;</b>&nbsp;<u></u><u></u><a style=3D"font-family:Cons=
olas;font-size:medium" href=3D"https://icann.box.com/shared/static/914sm51m=
mwlipc7a1j72.mp3" target=3D"_blank">https://icann.box.com/shared/static/914=
sm51mmwlipc7a1j72.mp3</a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">
<span style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">&nbsp;</span>=
</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Many thanks,</div>
<div>--&nbsp;</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-size:11pt">Maryam B=
akoshi<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-size:11pt"><b>Secre=
tariat &ndash; NCSG, NCUC, NPOC</b></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-size:11pt">Internet=
 Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-size:11pt"><br>
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-size:11pt"><b>Email=
:</b>&nbsp;
<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">maryam.bakosh=
[log in to unmask]</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-size:11pt"><b>Mobil=
e:</b>&nbsp; <a href=3D"tel:%2B44%207737%20698036" target=3D"_blank" value=
=3D"+447737698036">+44 7737 698036</a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-size:11pt"><b>Skype=
:</b> &nbsp;maryam.bakoshi.icann</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</span>
</div>

</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div></div></div><span c=
lass=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">-- <br>Ol=E9vi=E9 Ayaovi Agbenyo KO=
UAMI<br>Responsable projet CERGI-Education (<a href=3D"http://www.cergibs.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">http://www.cergibs.com</a>) <br>CEO de INTIC4DEV (<a =
href=3D"http://www.intic4dev.org" target=3D"_blank">http://www.intic4dev.or=
g</a>)<br>SG de ESTETIC&nbsp; (<a href=3D"http://www.estetic.tg" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.estetic.tg</a>)<br>Membre de ISoc (<a href=3D"http://www=
.isoc.org" target=3D"_blank">www.isoc.org</a> &lt;<a href=3D"http://www.iso=
c.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.isoc.org/</a>&gt;) &amp; du FOSSFA (<b=
r><a href=3D"http://www.fossfa.net" target=3D"_blank">www.fossfa.net</a>) <=
br>ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (<a href=3D"http://www.icann.o=
rg/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.icann.org/</a> et <a href=3D"http://www.n=
poc.org/" target=3D"_blank">http://www.npoc.org/</a>)<br>BP : 851 - T=E9l.:=
 (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72 <br>Skype : olevie1 FB : @olivier.ko=
uami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lom=E9 &ndash; Togo<br><br>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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I support the nomination of Ephraim!

Cheers...

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I wish to endorse the following nomination
>
> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>
> Region of residence: Africa
>
> Nationality: Kenya
>
> On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > I wish to submit the following nomination
> >
> > Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
> >
> > Region of residence: Africa
> >
> > Nationality: Kenya
> >
> > Gender: Male
> >
> > Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He is a
> member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
> Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet
> Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate
> at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global
> Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at the
> University of Pennsylvania)
> >
> > He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African regional
> level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a
> panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net
> Neutrality issues in developing countries.
> >
> > In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet Governance
> in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
> >
> > Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with various
> stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
> >
> > Regards
> > sent from Google nexus 4
> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>
> --
> WISDOM DONKOR
> Sosftware / Network Engineer
> Web/Open Government Platform Portal Specialist
> National Information Technology Agency (NITA)
> Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana
> Tel; +233 20 812881
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
> Skype: wisdom_dk
> facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk
> Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh
> www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh
>
>
>


-- 
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I support the nomination of Ephraim!<div><br></div><div>Ch=
eers...</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I wish to endorse th=
e following nomination<span class=3D""><br><br>Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanit=
o<br><br>Region of residence: Africa<br><br>Nationality: Kenya<br><br></spa=
n><span class=3D"">On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I wish to submit the following nomination<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Region of residence: =
Africa<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nationality: Kenya<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Gender: Male<br>&=
gt;<br></span>&gt; Ephraim brings a youth from developing=C2=A0countries=C2=
=A0perspective. He is=C2=A0a member of the interim steering committee for t=
he Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF).=
 He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (<a href=3D"http://ac=
cessnow.org" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org</a>) and an affiliate at=C2=A0=
the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global Com=
munication Studies=C2=A0at the Annenberg School for Communication at the Un=
iversity of Pennsylvania)<span class=3D""><br>&gt;<br>&gt; He is a=C2=A0pre=
vious attendee at IGF at both the global and African regional level and mor=
e recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a panelist on Develop=
ing countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality issues i=
n developing countries.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In addition, he is a fellow of the =
African School on Internet Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD=
).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engagi=
ng with various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.<br>&gt;=
<br>&gt; Regards<br>&gt; sent from Google nexus 4<br>&gt; kindly excuse bre=
vity and typos.<br><br></span>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>WISDOM DONKOR<br=
></div><div>Sosftware / Network Engineer<br></div>Web/Open Government Platf=
orm Portal Specialist<br><div><div>National Information Technology Agency (=
NITA) <br></div><div>Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana</d=
iv><div>Tel; +233 20 812881</div><div>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:wisdom_dk@ho=
tmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">wisdom.donkor@data=
.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"=
_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div>Skype: wisdom_dk</div><div>fa=
cebook: facebook@wisdom_dk<br></div><div>Website: <a href=3D"http://www.nit=
a.gov.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.nita.gov.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www.dat=
a.gov.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.data.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.isoc.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.isoc.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www=
.itag.org.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.itag.org.gh</a> <br><br></div></div></d=
iv><br>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br>Regards<br><=
br>Philip Adar<br>
</div>

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I too am honored to support Ephraim for the nomination.

Sincerely,

Walid
Sincerely,

Walid
On Sep 25, 2014 6:27 AM, "Seun Ojedeji" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I wish to submit the following nomination
>
> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>
> Region of residence: Africa
>
> Nationality: Kenya
>
> Gender: Male
>
> Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He is a
> member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
> Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet
> Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate
> at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global
> Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at the
> University of Pennsylvania)
>
> He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African regional
> level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a
> panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net
> Neutrality issues in developing countries.
>
> In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet Governance
> in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
>
> Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with various
> stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
>
> Regards
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>
> ____________________________________________________________
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<p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
I too am honored to support Ephraim for the nomination.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Sincerely,</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Walid<br>
Sincerely, </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Walid</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sep 25, 2014 6:27 AM, &quot;Seun Ojedeji&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=
=3D"ltr">I wish to submit the following nomination</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Region of residence: Africa</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Nationality: Kenya</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Gender: Male</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Ephraim brings a youth from developing=C2=A0countries=C2=A0p=
erspective. He is=C2=A0a member of the interim steering committee for the Y=
outh Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He =
is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (<a href=3D"http://access=
now.org/" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org</a>) and an affiliate at=C2=A0the=
 Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global Commun=
ication Studies<b>=C2=A0</b>at the Annenberg School for Communication at th=
e University of Pennsylvania)</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">He is a=C2=A0previous attendee at IGF at both the global and=
 African regional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged asser=
tively as a panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Yo=
uth and Net Neutrality issues in developing countries.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Interne=
t Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging w=
ith various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.</p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Regards<br>
sent from Google nexus 4<br>
kindly excuse brevity and typos.</p>
<br>____________________________________________________________<br>
You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br>
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Hello,
I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the
Africa Region.


All the best Ephraim.

Thank you
Benjamin

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I wish to endorse the following nomination
>
> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>
> Region of residence: Africa
>
> Nationality: Kenya
>
> On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > I wish to submit the following nomination
> >
> > Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
> >
> > Region of residence: Africa
> >
> > Nationality: Kenya
> >
> > Gender: Male
> >
> > Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He is a
> member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
> Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet
> Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate
> at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global
> Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at the
> University of Pennsylvania)
> >
> > He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African regional
> level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a
> panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net
> Neutrality issues in developing countries.
> >
> > In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet Governance
> in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
> >
> > Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with various
> stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
> >
> > Regards
> > sent from Google nexus 4
> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>
> --
> WISDOM DONKOR
> Sosftware / Network Engineer
> Web/Open Government Platform Portal Specialist
> National Information Technology Agency (NITA)
> Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana
> Tel; +233 20 812881
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
> Skype: wisdom_dk
> facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk
> Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh
> www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div>I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito=
 &#39;s nomination for the Africa Region.</div><div><br></div><div><br></di=
v><div>All the best Ephraim.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you</div><div>B=
enjamin</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 =
0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I wish to endorse the=
 following nomination<span class=3D""><br><br>Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito=
<br><br>Region of residence: Africa<br><br>Nationality: Kenya<br><br></span=
><span class=3D"">On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I wish to submit the following nomination<br>&gt;<b=
r>&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Region of residence: A=
frica<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nationality: Kenya<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Gender: Male<br>&g=
t;<br></span>&gt; Ephraim brings a youth from developing=C2=A0countries=C2=
=A0perspective. He is=C2=A0a member of the interim steering committee for t=
he Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF).=
 He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (<a href=3D"http://ac=
cessnow.org" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org</a>) and an affiliate at=C2=A0=
the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global Com=
munication Studies=C2=A0at the Annenberg School for Communication at the Un=
iversity of Pennsylvania)<span class=3D""><br>&gt;<br>&gt; He is a=C2=A0pre=
vious attendee at IGF at both the global and African regional level and mor=
e recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a panelist on Develop=
ing countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality issues i=
n developing countries.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In addition, he is a fellow of the =
African School on Internet Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD=
).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engagi=
ng with various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.<br>&gt;=
<br>&gt; Regards<br>&gt; sent from Google nexus 4<br>&gt; kindly excuse bre=
vity and typos.<br><br></span>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>WISDOM DONKOR<br=
></div><div>Sosftware / Network Engineer<br></div>Web/Open Government Platf=
orm Portal Specialist<br><div><div>National Information Technology Agency (=
NITA) <br></div><div>Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana</d=
iv><div>Tel; +233 20 812881</div><div>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:wisdom_dk@ho=
tmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">wisdom.donkor@data=
.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"=
_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div>Skype: wisdom_dk</div><div>fa=
cebook: facebook@wisdom_dk<br></div><div>Website: <a href=3D"http://www.nit=
a.gov.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.nita.gov.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www.dat=
a.gov.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.data.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"ht=
tp://www.isoc.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.isoc.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www=
.itag.org.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.itag.org.gh</a> <br><br></div></div></d=
iv><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thanks.

Regards,
Sherly

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Hello,
> I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the
> Africa Region.
>
>
> All the best Ephraim.
>
> Thank you
> Benjamin
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> I wish to endorse the following nomination
>>
>> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>>
>> Region of residence: Africa
>>
>> Nationality: Kenya
>>
>> On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> > I wish to submit the following nomination
>> >
>> > Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>> >
>> > Region of residence: Africa
>> >
>> > Nationality: Kenya
>> >
>> > Gender: Male
>> >
>> > Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He is a
>> member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
>> Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet
>> Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate
>> at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global
>> Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at the
>> University of Pennsylvania)
>> >
>> > He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African
>> regional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as
>> a panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth and
>> Net Neutrality issues in developing countries.
>> >
>> > In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet
>> Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
>> >
>> > Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with various
>> stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > sent from Google nexus 4
>> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>
>> --
>> WISDOM DONKOR
>> Sosftware / Network Engineer
>> Web/Open Government Platform Portal Specialist
>> National Information Technology Agency (NITA)
>> Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana
>> Tel; +233 20 812881
>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>> [log in to unmask]
>> [log in to unmask]
>> Skype: wisdom_dk
>> facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk
>> Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh
>> www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh
>>
>>
>>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thanks.<div><br>=
</div><div>Regards,</div><div>Sherly</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Ak=
inmoyeje <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=
=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div>I am excited to support Ephraim Perc=
y Kenyanito &#39;s nomination for the Africa Region.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv><br></div><div>All the best Ephraim.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you<=
/div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><div>Benjamin</div></fo=
nt></span></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail=
_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wis=
dom Donkor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">I wish to endorse the following nomination<span><br><br>Nam=
e: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br><br>Region of residence: Africa<br><br>Nation=
ality: Kenya<br><br></span><span>On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojed=
eji &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">seun.oj=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I wish to submit the following nomin=
ation<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Region =
of residence: Africa<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nationality: Kenya<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Gen=
der: Male<br>&gt;<br></span>&gt; Ephraim brings a youth from developing=A0c=
ountries=A0perspective. He is=A0a member of the interim steering committee =
for the Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the =
IGF). He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (<a href=3D"http=
://accessnow.org" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org</a>) and an affiliate at=
=A0the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global =
Communication Studies=A0at the Annenberg School for Communication at the Un=
iversity of Pennsylvania)<span><br>&gt;<br>&gt; He is a=A0previous attendee=
 at IGF at both the global and African regional level and more recently in =
Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a panelist on Developing countries =
participation in global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality issues in developing c=
ountries.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In addition, he is a fellow of the African School=
 on Internet Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).<br>&gt;<br>=
&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with variou=
s stakeholders from the developing world perspective.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Regar=
ds<br>&gt; sent from Google nexus 4<br>&gt; kindly excuse brevity and typos=
.<br><br></span>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>WISDOM DONKOR<br></div><div>So=
sftware / Network Engineer<br></div>Web/Open Government Platform Portal Spe=
cialist<br><div><div>National Information Technology Agency (NITA) <br></di=
v><div>Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana</div><div>Tel; +=
233 20 812881</div><div>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" tar=
get=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:wi=
[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br=
></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">wisdom=
[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div>Skype: wisdom_dk</div><div>facebook: facebo=
ok@wisdom_dk<br></div><div>Website: <a href=3D"http://www.nita.gov.gh" targ=
et=3D"_blank">www.nita.gov.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www.data.gov.gh" targ=
et=3D"_blank">www.data.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www.isoc.=
gh" target=3D"_blank">www.isoc.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www.itag.org.gh" =
target=3D"_blank">www.itag.org.gh</a> <br><br></div></div></div><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>

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Last call for nominations for civil society representatives to the =
Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) for next year's Internet =
Governance Forum (IGF) - see below announcement. =20

Let's get some good people on the IGF MAG to replace the many good ones =
who are leaving this year.  We need more candidates!  Nominate before 30 =
Sept. 2014 for possible endorsement by the Civil Society Coordination =
Group.  More details below.

Thank you!
Robin


On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Robin Gross wrote:

> This is a call for nominations for civil society representatives for =
the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group (MAG).
>=20
>  This nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil =
society coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just =
Net Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination =
Group. You are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual =
coalitions. Nominations close on Tuesday, September 30, 2014.
>  If you wish to nominate via the Noncommercial Stakeholder Group =
(NCSG), or if you have been nominated and wish to accept, please do so =
either on this list or by email sent to me at the address Robin (at) =
ipjustice (dot) org.
>  Please include in your nomination the nominee=92s name, country of =
residence and nationality, and gender. Please also specifically address =
each of the selection criteria below, giving us examples and evidence of =
how the nominee meets each of the individual selection criteria.
>  CRITERIA
> * Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups
>   working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out =
assertively
> on behalf of public interest concerns.
>=20
> * Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS =
networks
> (including beyond those focused on internet governance where =
appropriate) on
> MAG discussions.=20
>=20
> * Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level.
>=20
> * Willing, available and able to participate effectively and =
constructively
> in the MAG deliberations.
> =20
> Existing MAG members seeking CSCG endorsement should also follow this =
process.
>=20
> Nominations must close on Tuesday, September 30. The list of =
candidates endorsed by CSCG will be published no later than October 16.
>=20
> More about the IGF and the MAG can be obtained from =
www.intgovforum.org


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call for nominations for civil society representatives to the =
Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) for next year's Internet =
Governance Forum (IGF) - see below announcement. =
&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Let's get some good people on the IGF MAG to =
replace the many good ones who are leaving this year. &nbsp;We need more =
candidates! &nbsp;Nominate before 30 Sept. 2014 for possible endorsement =
by the Civil Society Coordination Group. &nbsp;More details =
below.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank =
you!</div><div>Robin<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 18, =
2014, at 12:32 PM, Robin Gross wrote:</div><br =
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small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; ">This is a call for nominations for civil society representatives =
for the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group =
(MAG).</font></font></span></p><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: =
13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times =
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"></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; ">This =
nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil society =
coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just Net =
Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination Group. =
You are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual =
coalitions. <b>Nominations close on Tuesday, September 30, =
2014</b>.</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; "></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
font-size: 15px; ">If you wish to nominate via the Noncommercial =
Stakeholder Group (NCSG), or if you have been nominated and wish to =
accept, please do so either on this list or by email sent to me at the =
address <b><i>Robin (at) ipjustice (dot) org</i></b>.</span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; =
margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; "></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; ">Please =
include in your nomination the nominee=92s name, country of residence =
and nationality, and gender. Please also specifically address each of =
the selection criteria below, giving us examples and evidence of how the =
nominee meets each of the individual selection =
criteria.</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: small; "><b><span><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
"></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; =
">CRITERIA</span></b></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: =
0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">* Past record of active =
engagement as part of civil society groups<br>&nbsp; working on internet =
governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively<br>on behalf of =
public interest concerns.<br><br>* Willingness and commitment to consult =
with and report back to CS networks<br>(including beyond those focused =
on internet governance where appropriate) on<br>MAG =
discussions.&nbsp;<br><br>* Previous attendee at IGF at a global or =
regional level.<br><br>* Willing, available and able to participate =
effectively and constructively<br>in the MAG =
deliberations.</font></font></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: =
13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times =
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margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
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this process.</font></font></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; =
margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; ">Nominations must close on Tuesday, September 30. The list of =
candidates endorsed by CSCG will be published no later than October =
16.</font></font></span></p><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: =
0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; =
font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span"=
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the IGF and the MAG can be obtained from&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.intgovforum.org/">www.intgovforum.org</a></span></div><=
/div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>=

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Date:         Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:14:50 +0200
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Catching up my email backlog last-in-first-out (several weeks of low =
work level due to family issues [health of my mother]) I=92m checking =
now the status here and would like to know how many nominations have =
been received ?=20

Rudi Vansnick

Op 28-sep.-2014, om 22:30 heeft Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> het =
volgende geschreven:

> Last call for nominations for civil society representatives to the =
Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) for next year's Internet =
Governance Forum (IGF) - see below announcement. =20
>=20
> Let's get some good people on the IGF MAG to replace the many good =
ones who are leaving this year.  We need more candidates!  Nominate =
before 30 Sept. 2014 for possible endorsement by the Civil Society =
Coordination Group.  More details below.
>=20
> Thank you!
> Robin
>=20
>=20
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>=20
>> This is a call for nominations for civil society representatives for =
the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group (MAG).
>>=20
>>  This nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil =
society coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just =
Net Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination =
Group. You are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual =
coalitions. Nominations close on Tuesday, September 30, 2014.
>>  If you wish to nominate via the Noncommercial Stakeholder Group =
(NCSG), or if you have been nominated and wish to accept, please do so =
either on this list or by email sent to me at the address Robin (at) =
ipjustice (dot) org.
>>  Please include in your nomination the nominee=92s name, country of =
residence and nationality, and gender. Please also specifically address =
each of the selection criteria below, giving us examples and evidence of =
how the nominee meets each of the individual selection criteria.
>>  CRITERIA
>> * Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups
>>   working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out =
assertively
>> on behalf of public interest concerns.
>>=20
>> * Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS =
networks
>> (including beyond those focused on internet governance where =
appropriate) on
>> MAG discussions.=20
>>=20
>> * Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level.
>>=20
>> * Willing, available and able to participate effectively and =
constructively
>> in the MAG deliberations.
>> =20
>> Existing MAG members seeking CSCG endorsement should also follow this =
process.
>>=20
>> Nominations must close on Tuesday, September 30. The list of =
candidates endorsed by CSCG will be published no later than October 16.
>>=20
>> More about the IGF and the MAG can be obtained from =
www.intgovforum.org
>=20


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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;">Catching up my email backlog last-in-first-out =
(several weeks of low work level due to family issues [health of my =
mother]) I=92m checking now the status here and would like to know how =
many nominations have been received ?&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Rudi =
Vansnick<br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
</div>
<br><div><div>Op 28-sep.-2014, om 22:30 heeft Robin Gross &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; het =
volgende geschreven:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Last call for nominations for =
civil society representatives to the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group =
(MAG) for next year's Internet Governance Forum (IGF) - see below =
announcement. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Let's get some good people on =
the IGF MAG to replace the many good ones who are leaving this year. =
&nbsp;We need more candidates! &nbsp;Nominate before 30 Sept. 2014 for =
possible endorsement by the Civil Society Coordination Group. &nbsp;More =
details below.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank =
you!</div><div>Robin<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 18, =
2014, at 12:32 PM, Robin Gross wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; =
margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; ">This is a call for nominations for civil society representatives =
for the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group =
(MAG).</font></font></span></p><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: =
13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times =
New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
"></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; ">This =
nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil society =
coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just Net =
Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination Group. =
You are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual =
coalitions. <b>Nominations close on Tuesday, September 30, =
2014</b>.</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; "></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
font-size: 15px; ">If you wish to nominate via the Noncommercial =
Stakeholder Group (NCSG), or if you have been nominated and wish to =
accept, please do so either on this list or by email sent to me at the =
address <b><i>Robin (at) ipjustice (dot) org</i></b>.</span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; =
margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; "></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; ">Please =
include in your nomination the nominee=92s name, country of residence =
and nationality, and gender. Please also specifically address each of =
the selection criteria below, giving us examples and evidence of how the =
nominee meets each of the individual selection =
criteria.</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: small; "><b><span><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
"></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
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">CRITERIA</span></b></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: =
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font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">* Past record of active =
engagement as part of civil society groups<br>&nbsp; working on internet =
governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively<br>on behalf of =
public interest concerns.<br><br>* Willingness and commitment to consult =
with and report back to CS networks<br>(including beyond those focused =
on internet governance where appropriate) on<br>MAG =
discussions.&nbsp;<br><br>* Previous attendee at IGF at a global or =
regional level.<br><br>* Willing, available and able to participate =
effectively and constructively<br>in the MAG =
deliberations.</font></font></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: =
13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times =
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"></font></font></span>&nbsp;<br =
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margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
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this process.</font></font></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; =
margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; ">Nominations must close on Tuesday, September 30. The list of =
candidates endorsed by CSCG will be published no later than October =
16.</font></font></span></p><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: =
0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; =
font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span class=3D"Apple-style-span"=
 style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; ">More about =
the IGF and the MAG can be obtained from&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.intgovforum.org/">www.intgovforum.org</a></span></div><=
/div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div=
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Date:         Mon, 29 Sep 2014 11:41:24 +1300
Reply-To:     [log in to unmask]
Sender:       NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]>
From:         joy <[log in to unmask]>
Organization: APC
Subject:      Re: Recording and attendance NCSG Monthly call - 23 September
              2014 at 1400 UTC
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Thanks Maryam, sorry I could not be at the meeting, but i always find
the transcript helpful.
cheers

Joy

On 25/09/2014 8:29 p.m., Maryam Bakoshi wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Please find attached/below the transcript, attendance, and MP3 recording of the NCSG Monthly call held on the 23rd September 2014.
>
> Attendees: Rafik Dammak, Rudi Vansnick,  Avri Doria,  Klaus Stoll, Marilia Maciel, Sam Lanfranco, Stephanie Perrin, Robin Gross, Bill Drake, David Cake
>
> Apologies: Carlos Guttierrez, Magaly Pazello
>
> Staff:  Maryam Bakoshi, Nathalie Peregrine, Benedetta Rossi
>
>
>
> MP3 recording:  https://icann.box.com/shared/static/914sm51mmwlipc7a1j72.mp3
>
> Many thanks,
> --
> Maryam Bakoshi
> Secretariat - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>
> Email:  [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Mobile:  +44 7737 698036
> Skype:  maryam.bakoshi.icann
>
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Date:         Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:04:24 +0400
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Hello everyone,

I also support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the Africa Region.

Best,

Patricia

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Sherly Haristya <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Sherly
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the
>> Africa Region.
>>
>>
>> All the best Ephraim.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Benjamin
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I wish to endorse the following nomination
>>>
>>> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>>>
>>> Region of residence: Africa
>>>
>>> Nationality: Kenya
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > I wish to submit the following nomination
>>> >
>>> > Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>>> >
>>> > Region of residence: Africa
>>> >
>>> > Nationality: Kenya
>>> >
>>> > Gender: Male
>>> >
>>> > Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He is a
>>> member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
>>> Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet
>>> Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate
>>> at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global
>>> Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at the
>>> University of Pennsylvania)
>>> >
>>> > He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African
>>> regional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as
>>> a panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth and
>>> Net Neutrality issues in developing countries.
>>> >
>>> > In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet
>>> Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
>>> >
>>> > Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with
>>> various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> > sent from Google nexus 4
>>> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>
>>> --
>>> WISDOM DONKOR
>>> Sosftware / Network Engineer
>>> Web/Open Government Platform Portal Specialist
>>> National Information Technology Agency (NITA)
>>> Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana
>>> Tel; +233 20 812881
>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> Skype: wisdom_dk
>>> facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk
>>> Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh
>>> www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello everyone,<br><br>I also support Ephraim Percy K=
enyanito &#39;s nomination for the Africa Region.<br><br></div>Best,<br><br=
>Patricia<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote=
">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Sherly Haristya <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">sherly.haristy=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thanks.<div><br></div><=
div>Regards,</div><div>Sherly</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=
=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, S=
ep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</=
span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8e=
x;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div>=
I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito &#39;s nomination for the A=
frica Region.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>All the best Ephraim.=
</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you</div><span><font color=3D"#888888"><div=
>Benjamin</div></font></span></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex">I wish to endorse the following nomination<span><br><br>Name: Ephraim =
Percy Kenyanito<br><br>Region of residence: Africa<br><br>Nationality: Keny=
a<br><br></span><span>On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I wish to submit the following nomination<br>&g=
t;<br>&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Region of residenc=
e: Africa<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nationality: Kenya<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Gender: Male<b=
r>&gt;<br></span>&gt; Ephraim brings a youth from developing=C2=A0countries=
=C2=A0perspective. He is=C2=A0a member of the interim steering committee fo=
r the Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IG=
F). He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (<a href=3D"http:/=
/accessnow.org" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org</a>) and an affiliate at=C2=
=A0the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global =
Communication Studies=C2=A0at the Annenberg School for Communication at the=
 University of Pennsylvania)<span><br>&gt;<br>&gt; He is a=C2=A0previous at=
tendee at IGF at both the global and African regional level and more recent=
ly in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a panelist on Developing coun=
tries participation in global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality issues in develo=
ping countries.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In addition, he is a fellow of the African =
School on Internet Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).<br>&g=
t;<br>&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with =
various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;=
 Regards<br>&gt; sent from Google nexus 4<br>&gt; kindly excuse brevity and=
 typos.<br><br></span>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>WISDOM DONKOR<br></div><=
div>Sosftware / Network Engineer<br></div>Web/Open Government Platform Port=
al Specialist<br><div><div>National Information Technology Agency (NITA) <b=
r></div><div>Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana</div><div>=
Tel; +233 20 812881</div><div>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]
m" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"mai=
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/a><br></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">=
[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div>Skype: wisdom_dk</div><div>facebook: =
facebook@wisdom_dk<br></div><div>Website: <a href=3D"http://www.nita.gov.gh=
" target=3D"_blank">www.nita.gov.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www.data.gov.gh=
" target=3D"_blank">www.data.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"http://www=
.isoc.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.isoc.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://www.itag.or=
g.gh" target=3D"_blank">www.itag.org.gh</a> <br><br></div></div></div><br>
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Hi

Personally, I=92d have preferred to see Ephraim getting more involved =
with us in ICANN, but if he'd prefer for IGF to be his time sink I=92d =
certainly support him as well. :-)

Best

Bill

On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Patricia Gnilane Senghor =
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>=20
> I also support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the Africa =
Region.
>=20
> Best,
>=20
> Patricia
>=20
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Sherly Haristya =
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thanks.
>=20
> Regards,
> Sherly
>=20
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje =
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hello,
> I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the =
Africa Region.
>=20
>=20
> All the best Ephraim.
>=20
> Thank you
> Benjamin
>=20
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <[log in to unmask]> =
wrote:
> I wish to endorse the following nomination
>=20
> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>=20
> Region of residence: Africa
>=20
> Nationality: Kenya
>=20
> On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]> =
wrote:
> > I wish to submit the following nomination
> >
> > Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
> >
> > Region of residence: Africa
> >
> > Nationality: Kenya
> >
> > Gender: Male
> >
> > Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He is =
a member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on =
Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet =
Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate at =
the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Global =
Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at the =
University of Pennsylvania)
> >
> > He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African =
regional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively =
as a panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth =
and Net Neutrality issues in developing countries.
> >
> > In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet =
Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
> >
> > Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with =
various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
> >
> > Regards
> > sent from Google nexus 4
> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>=20
> --=20
> WISDOM DONKOR
> Sosftware / Network Engineer
> Web/Open Government Platform Portal Specialist
> National Information Technology Agency (NITA)=20
> Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana
> Tel; +233 20 812881
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
> Skype: wisdom_dk
> facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk
> Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh
> www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;">Hi<div><br></div><div>Personally, I=92d have =
preferred to see Ephraim getting more involved with us in ICANN, but if =
he'd prefer for IGF to be his time sink I=92d certainly support him as =
well. =
:-)</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br>
<br><div><div>On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Patricia Gnilane Senghor =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">patricia.senghor@GOOGLEMAI=
L.COM</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
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dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello everyone,<br><br>I also support Ephraim Percy =
Kenyanito 's nomination for the Africa =
Region.<br><br></div>Best,<br><br>Patricia<br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, =
2014 at 3:59 PM, Sherly Haristya <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I =
also support the nomination of Ephraim. =
Thanks.<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Sherly</div></div><div =
class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin =
Akinmoyeje <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div>I am excited to =
support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the Africa =
Region.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>All the best =
Ephraim.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you</div><span><font =
color=3D"#888888">Benjamin</font></span></div><div><div =
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, =
2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I wish to endorse the =
following nomination<span><br><br>Name: Ephraim Percy =
Kenyanito<br><br>Region of residence: Africa<br><br>Nationality: =
Kenya<br><br></span><span>On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I wish =
to submit the following nomination<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy =
Kenyanito<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Region of residence: Africa<br>&gt;<br>&gt; =
Nationality: Kenya<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Gender: Male<br>&gt;<br></span>&gt; =
Ephraim brings a youth from developing&nbsp;countries&nbsp;perspective. =
He is&nbsp;a member of the interim steering committee for the Youth =
Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is =
an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (<a =
href=3D"http://accessnow.org/" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org</a>) and =
an affiliate at&nbsp;the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by =
the Center for Global Communication Studies&nbsp;at the Annenberg School =
for Communication at the University of =
Pennsylvania)<span><br>&gt;<br>&gt; He is a&nbsp;previous attendee at =
IGF at both the global and African regional level and more recently in =
Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a panelist on Developing =
countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality issues in =
developing countries.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In addition, he is a fellow of the =
African School on Internet Governance in South Africa (run by APC and =
NEPAD).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience =
on engaging with various stakeholders from the developing world =
perspective.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Regards<br>&gt; sent from Google nexus =
4<br>&gt; kindly excuse brevity and typos.<br><br></span>-- <br><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><div>WISDOM DONKOR<br></div><div>Sosftware / Network =
Engineer<br></div>Web/Open Government Platform Portal =
Specialist<br><div><div>National Information Technology Agency (NITA) =
<br></div><div>Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, =
Ghana</div><div>Tel; +233 20 812881</div><div>Email: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" =
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/ <a href=3D"http://www.data.gov.gh/" =
target=3D"_blank">www.data.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a =
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href=3D"http://www.itag.org.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.itag.org.gh</a> =
<br><br></div></div></div><br>
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Well noting stops both from happening....he's got the muscle ;)

Cheers!

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, William Drake <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Personally, I=E2=80=99d have preferred to see Ephraim getting more involv=
ed with
> us in ICANN, but if he'd prefer for IGF to be his time sink I=E2=80=99d c=
ertainly
> support him as well. :-)
>
> Best
>
> Bill
>
>
> On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Patricia Gnilane Senghor <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I also support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the Africa Regio=
n.
>
> Best,
>
> Patricia
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Sherly Haristya <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thanks.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sherly
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the
>>> Africa Region.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best Ephraim.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> Benjamin
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wish to endorse the following nomination
>>>>
>>>> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>>>>
>>>> Region of residence: Africa
>>>>
>>>> Nationality: Kenya
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > I wish to submit the following nomination
>>>> >
>>>> > Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>>>> >
>>>> > Region of residence: Africa
>>>> >
>>>> > Nationality: Kenya
>>>> >
>>>> > Gender: Male
>>>> >
>>>> > Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He is =
a
>>>> member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
>>>> Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Interne=
t
>>>> Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate
>>>> at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for Gl=
obal
>>>> Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at the
>>>> University of Pennsylvania)
>>>> >
>>>> > He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African
>>>> regional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertive=
ly as
>>>> a panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth a=
nd
>>>> Net Neutrality issues in developing countries.
>>>> >
>>>> > In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet
>>>> Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
>>>> >
>>>> > Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with
>>>> various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards
>>>> > sent from Google nexus 4
>>>> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> WISDOM DONKOR
>>>> Sosftware / Network Engineer
>>>> Web/Open Government Platform Portal Specialist
>>>> National Information Technology Agency (NITA)
>>>> Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana
>>>> Tel; +233 20 812881
>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> Skype: wisdom_dk
>>>> facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk
>>>> Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh
>>>> www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>


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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Well noting stops both from happening....he&#39;s got=
 the muscle ;)<br><br></div>Cheers!<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, William Drake =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank=
">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"=
><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi<div><br></div><div>Personally, I=E2=
=80=99d have preferred to see Ephraim getting more involved with us in ICAN=
N, but if he&#39;d prefer for IGF to be his time sink I=E2=80=99d certainly=
 support him as well. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div=
><div>Bill<div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br><div><div>On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Patricia Gnilane Senghor &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">patricia.=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello everyone,<br><br>I also support Ephraim Percy Ken=
yanito &#39;s nomination for the Africa Region.<br><br></div>Best,<br><br>P=
atricia<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Sherly Haristya <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">sherly.haristya@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"ltr">I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thanks.<div><br></div><d=
iv>Regards,</div><div>Sherly</div></div><div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin =
Akinmoyeje <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" targe=
t=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<div>I am excited to support Ephraim P=
ercy Kenyanito &#39;s nomination for the Africa Region.</div><div><br></div=
><div><br></div><div>All the best Ephraim.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank y=
ou</div><span><font color=3D"#888888">Benjamin</font></span></div><div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 =
at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wisdom.dk=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I wish to endorse the following nomination<s=
pan><br><br>Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br><br>Region of residence: Afric=
a<br><br>Nationality: Kenya<br><br></span><span>On Thursday, September 25, =
2014, Seun Ojedeji &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"=
_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I wish to submit the =
following nomination<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Region of residence: Africa<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nationality: Kenya<br>&=
gt;<br>&gt; Gender: Male<br>&gt;<br></span>&gt; Ephraim brings a youth from=
 developing=C2=A0countries=C2=A0perspective. He is=C2=A0a member of the int=
erim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a D=
ynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at=
 Access (<a href=3D"http://accessnow.org/" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org<=
/a>) and an affiliate at=C2=A0the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (create=
d by the Center for Global Communication Studies=C2=A0at the Annenberg Scho=
ol for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania)<span><br>&gt;<br>&g=
t; He is a=C2=A0previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African reg=
ional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a =
panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net =
Neutrality issues in developing countries.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In addition, he =
is a fellow of the African School on Internet Governance in South Africa (r=
un by APC and NEPAD).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of e=
xperience on engaging with various stakeholders from the developing world p=
erspective.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Regards<br>&gt; sent from Google nexus 4<br>&gt=
; kindly excuse brevity and typos.<br><br></span>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv>WISDOM DONKOR<br></div><div>Sosftware / Network Engineer<br></div>Web/Op=
en Government Platform Portal Specialist<br><div><div>National Information =
Technology Agency (NITA) <br></div><div>Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonmen=
ts, Accra, Ghana</div><div>Tel; +233 20 812881</div><div>Email: <a href=3D"=
mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><b=
r></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:wisdom.dk@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div>Skype: wis=
dom_dk</div><div>facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk<br></div><div>Website: <a hre=
f=3D"http://www.nita.gov.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.nita.gov.gh</a> / <a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.data.gov.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.data.gov.gh</a><br></d=
iv><div><a href=3D"http://www.isoc.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.isoc.gh</a> /=
 <a href=3D"http://www.itag.org.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.itag.org.gh</a> =
<br><br></div></div></div><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br c=
lear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">----------------------------------=
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te style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex;font-family:garamond,serif">
<i><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)">Seun Ojedeji,<br style=3D"color:rgb(0=
,102,0)"></span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)">Federal University Oye-E=
kiti<br style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,=
0)">web:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 </span><a href=3D"http://www.fuoye.edu.ng" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)=
">Mobile: <a value=3D"+2348035233535">+2348035233535</a></span><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><br></i><i><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)=
">alt email:<a href=3D"http://goog_1872880453" target=3D"_blank"> </a><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">seun.ojedeji@fuoy=
e.edu.ng</a></span></i><br><br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The key to under=
standing is humility - my view !<br></blockquote></blockquote></font><br></=
div>
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Hi All!

I strongly support Ephraim nomination!!

Cheers!

Mamadou=20

Date: Sat=2C 27 Sep 2014 19:38:58 +0000
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To: [log in to unmask]

Hi all !+1 @Ephraim Percy Kenyanito.Cheers !-Ol=E9vi=E9-

2014-09-25 13:38 GMT+00:00 Ephraim Percy Kenyanito <[log in to unmask]>:
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>Hi All!<br><br>I strongly suppor=
t Ephraim nomination!!<br><br>Cheers!<br><br>Mamadou <br><br><div><hr id=3D=
"stopSpelling">Date: Sat=2C 27 Sep 2014 19:38:58 +0000<br>From: olivierkoua=
[log in to unmask]<br>Subject: Re: [bestbits] Nomination to MAG<br>To: NCSG-DISCU=
[log in to unmask]<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all !<div>+1 @Ephraim Percy =
Kenyanito.</div><div>Cheers !</div><div>-Ol=E9vi=E9-</div><div><br></div></=
div><div class=3D"ecxgmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"ecxgmail_quote">2014-09=
-25 13:38 GMT+00:00 Ephraim Percy Kenyanito <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=3B<a href=
=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>=
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<br>=0A=
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support my nomination.<br>=0A=
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Lastly=2C I do add my endorsement for Avri Dora=2C Lea Kaspar=2C Matt Shear=
s<br>=0A=
and John Dada.<br>=0A=
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I do believe that they will be great CS additions on the IGF MAG.<br>=0A=
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Best Regards=2C<br>=0A=
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Website: <a href=3D"http://about.me/ekenyanito" target=3D"_blank">http://ab=
out.me/ekenyanito</a><br>=0A=
Tel: <a target=3D"_blank">(+254)-786-19-19-30</a> / <a target=3D"_blank">(+=
254)-751-804-120</a><br>=0A=
@ekenyanito<br>=0A=
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&gt=3B from non-developing countries to get funding to attend physical<br>=
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blank">http://twitter.com/lordmwesh</a>&gt=3B<br>=0A=
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<span>&gt=3B &lt=3Bmailto:<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">seun.oj=
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&gt=3B Region of residence: Africa<br>=0A=
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</span>&gt=3B&nbsp=3B &lt=3B<a href=3D"http://accessnow.org/" target=3D"_bl=
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&gt=3B In addition=2C he is a fellow of the African School on Internet<br>=
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&gt=3B Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).<br>=0A=
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&gt=3B various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.<br>=0A=
&gt=3B<br>=0A=
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Dear All,

Thank you to everyone who has filled in the LA 51 attendance Doodle poll.

This poll will be closing tomorrow, Tuesday, 30th September 2014 at 00:00 U=
TC.

Please if you have not already done so, using the link below, kindly fill i=
n the poll to confirm attendance.

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Thank you so much for your time.

Many thanks,
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Maryam Bakoshi
Secretariat - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers

Email:  [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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Hi everyone,

some session about security during LA meeting , for those interested by
security issue and it is open to everybody.

Best Regards,

Rafik

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Glen de Saint G=C3=A9ry
Date: 2014-09-29 16:38 GMT+09:00
Subject: Cybersecurity Awareness Messaging - Session Invitation (ICANN 51)
To:






The Anti-Phishing Working Group will hold a session during ICANN 51 in Los
Angeles regarding the STOP. THINK. CONNECT. cybersecurity awareness
campaign. The SSR Team would like to invite all members of the community,
including gTLD and ccTLD registries, registrars, the private sector,
government representatives, academic researchers, NGOs and all others to
attend and consider joining the initiative as well.



Session title: (APWG) Hemispheric Unification of Cyber Security Awareness
Messaging

http://la51.icann.org/en/schedule/wed-apwg-cyber-security

Date: Wed, 15 October 2014 - 16:30 to 17:45 PDT

Room: Pacific Palisades



"The STOP. THINK. CONNECT. Messaging Convention has embarked upon a
campaign to establish the STOP. THINK. CONNECT. cybersecurity awareness
messaging suite as a hemisphere-wide campaign, leveraging initial adoption
by nation-states in North America, Central America and South America.



"The Messaging Convention was established in 2010 to unify online safety
awareness with a common slogan - STOP.THINK.CONNECT. - and a universally
recognized logo. The campaign has been adopted by national government
agencies and group in the USA, Canada, Malaysia, Japan, Uruguay, Panama and
Paraguay and the Convention joined with the Organization of American States
in 2012 to promote the campaign among its member states, of which there are
35 independent nations.



Working from these early adoptions in the Western Hemisphere and the
membership networks of the APWG and co-founder, NCSA, the Convention
proposes the consolidation of national cybersecurity awareness messaging
campaigns into a hemispheric effort that would provide transborder
resonance and unparalleled efficiency in delivering the campaign=E2=80=99s
essential messages."

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi everyone,<div><br></div><div>some session about securit=
y during LA meeting , for those interested by security issue and it is open=
 to everybody.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div><br></div><=
div>Rafik</div><div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>F=
rom: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Glen de Saint G=C3=A9ry</b> <br>Date: 20=
14-09-29 16:38 GMT+09:00<br>Subject: Cybersecurity Awareness Messaging - Se=
ssion Invitation (ICANN 51)<br>To:=C2=A0<br><br><br>





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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">The Anti-Phishing Working G=
roup will hold a session during ICANN 51 in Los Angeles regarding the STOP.=
 THINK. CONNECT. cybersecurity awareness campaign. The SSR
 Team would like to invite all members of the community, including gTLD and=
 ccTLD registries, registrars, the private sector, government representativ=
es, academic researchers, NGOs and all others to attend and consider joinin=
g the initiative as well.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Session title: (APWG) Hemis=
pheric Unification of Cyber Security Awareness Messaging<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p>
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><a href=3D"http://la51.ican=
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ann.org/en/schedule/wed-apwg-cyber-security</a>=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span><=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Date: Wed, 15 October 2014 =
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">Room: Pacific Palisades<u><=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&quot;The STOP. THINK. CONN=
ECT. Messaging Convention has embarked upon a campaign to establish the STO=
P. THINK. CONNECT. cybersecurity awareness messaging suite as
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n North America, Central America and South America.<u></u><u></u></span></p=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black">&quot;The Messaging Convent=
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slogan - STOP.THINK.CONNECT. - and a universally recognized logo.
 The campaign has been adopted by national government agencies and group in=
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vention joined with the Organization of American States in 2012 to promote =
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awareness messaging campaigns into a hemispheric effort that would provide =
transborder resonance and unparalleled efficiency in delivering the campaig=
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For anyone who wants to get up to speed on the EWG report and its implicati=
ons for privacy and security, this blog post by Emily Taylor is the place t=
o start:=20
http://www.emilytaylor.eu/online-privacy-icann-ewg/


Milton L. Mueller
Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor
Syracuse University School of Information Studies
http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/mueller/Home.html=20
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Dear Robin, all.

Thanks all for the endorsements and more especially from the young people
and those from the global south as this are two constituencies that I am
blessed to be part of.

Please find my somewhat long and detailed statement below. To respond to
Bill, thanks for your endorsement and I
=E2=80=8Bdo ascertain that=E2=80=8B
I have the energy and bandwidth to provide great ideas in defending user
rights and advancing policy and advocacy engagements in this respect.

Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito

Region of residence: Africa

Nationality:
=E2=80=8BKenyan
=E2=80=8B

Gender: Male

Personal statement and IG-related work:

I am a Policy Fellow working with the Policy team for Access (
https://www.accessnow.org/ ), where I focus on the connection between
internet policy and human rights and specifically works on Internet
Governance Reforms. Since joining Access, I have extensively supported
Access in analyzing and contributing to international and national African
policy positions at major internet governance fora, including the recent
NetMundial meeting, the International Telecommunication Union, and the
African Union Convention on Cybersecurity, among others and have assisted
to extend and defend rights of users through  ICANN Civil Society related
events.

I a member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). I am also an
affiliate at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (
http://globalnetpolicy.org/about/ipo-affiliates/ ) (created by the Center
for Global Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication
at the University of Pennsylvania).

Being only 21 years in July 2013, I was the youngest fellow of the African
School on Internet Governance, held in South Africa and run by Association
for Progressive Communications (APC) and NEPAD (the technical body of the
African Union). In the mean time, I am scheduled to graduate from Law
School in 2015 and I am also a Global Civics Student at the Global Civics
Academy (www.globalcivics.net )

Prior to Access and Internet Policy Observatory, I have worked with
Transparency International (Kenya Chapter) in the Advocacy and Legal
Advisory Centre (ALAC Eldoret Office) programme as a Law Student Intern for
two years. The programme offers free legal advice to victims and witnesses
of corruption and at the same time empower members of the Kenyan public to
advocate for transparency and accountability in management of public
affairs and is active in advocating for Freedom of Information and Data
Protection Laws in Kenya.

=E2=80=8BPost IGF 2011 in Nairobi Kenya, Transparency International-Kenya h=
as
played active role in using ICTs in human rights, to the point of
organizing a hack-a-thon which brings developers together to through a
weekend marathon of developing apps that can be used in human rights work.
The programme also uses a toll free call centre, social media and FM radio
programmes to empower and promote community participation in monitoring
public service delivery.

I am a previous attendee at IGF at (as an on-site participant and remotely)
both at the global and African regional level and more recently in the last
IGF 2014 Istanbul, I engaged assertively
=E2=80=8Bas an on-site=E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B panellist
=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
on the following sessions:

Developing countries participation in global IG-
http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/wks2014/index.php/proposal/view_public/114

Youth Coalition on Internet Governance-
www.intgovforum.org/cms/147-igf-2014/1861-igf-2014-youth-coalition-on-inter=
net-governance-meeting


Net Neutrality Main Session-
https://igf2014.sched.org/event/11c53224e232d7f3298247f3ec624e44 I am a
member of a number of academic, end-user and activist mailing lists, and I
plan to feed to consult report back about MAG discussions regularly.  I
plan to also write regular blog posts in assisting with this purpose.

As a 22 year old youth, I believe that the youth are not leaders of
tomorrow but of today and involving youth in IG processes ensures that
there is no generational gap as regards to Internet Policy advancement.
=E2=80=8BI have often believe that young people ought to be at the forefron=
t in
advancing democratic and positive institutional reform. =E2=80=8B
My position is consistent with Civil Society views such as BestBits on the
need for diversity in terms of age (
=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
b
=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
estbits.net/2014-mag-nominations/ ) and Internet Governance Caucus that
=E2=80=9C..Targeting youth groups or the younger generation of professional=
s will
have, in the long run, an effective impact..=E2=80=9D (
http://igcaucus.org/answers-cstd-questionnaire-improvements-igf-19-november=
-2010
)

This gap on youth involvement in IG has repeatedly been identified during
subsequent, IGFs and more recently in IGF 2014, attendees pointed out that
youth are about 3% minority in the IGF community (September 5th 2014 11.00
Taking Stock
=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8B
/ Emerging issues), which is consistent with 23 November 2010 IGF MAG
Meeting (http://igf.wgig.org/cms/mag/102-igf-2010/transcripts2010 ) where
it was stated, =E2=80=9C...I think that we should have an opportunity to pr=
ovide it
-- to provide opportunities for youth representation from African
countries, Asian, former USSR, other countries, to make it the IGF's better
mandate...=E2=80=9D

My views for IGF reform are that Civil Society needs to take a more
prominent role in the IGF decision making and this is outlined at this
BestBits statement:  <http://bestbits.net/igf-2014-submission/>
<http://bestbits.net/igf-2014-submission/> and in this IG- Caucus 2010
statement that is still relevant to-date:
http://www.unctad.info/upload/CSTD-IGF/Contributions/M1/CSIGC.pdf

Bio

Ephraim is a Policy Fellow working with the Policy team for Access (
https://www.accessnow.org/ ), where he focuses on the connection between
internet policy and human rights and specifically works on Internet
Governance Reforms. At Access, Ephraim has enthusiastically and extensively
supported Access in analyzing and contributing to international and
national African policy positions at major internet governance fora,
including the recent NetMundial meeting, the International
Telecommunication Union, and the African Union Convention on Cybersecurity,
among others.

He is a member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition on
Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF) and is a global member
of ISOC and served as a member of 2014's Kenya Internet Governance Forum
Steering committee (http://kenyaigf.or.ke/index.php/about-kigf/kigf-team).
He is also an affiliate at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (
http://globalnetpolicy.org/about/ipo-affiliates/ ) (created by the Center
for Global Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication
at the University of Pennsylvania).

Being only 21 years in July 2013, he was the youngest graduate of the
African School on Internet Governance, held in South Africa. He also has
training in Internet Policy and Media Law from University of Oxford and
University of Pennsylvania. In the mean time, he is scheduled to graduate
from Law School in 2015 and is also a Global Civics Student at the Global
Civics Academy (www.globalcivics.net )

Ephraim has participated in ICANN as a member of Non Commercial Users
Constituency (NCUC) (www.ncuc.org/about/members/ ) and as a member of the
ICANN Fellowship alumni network. He has participated in all the 2014 ICANN
Civil Society related events and has been volunteering part of his free
time as an Independent expert at ICANN's Implementation Advisory Group for
Competition, Consumer Trust and Consumer Choice (IAG-CCT) (
https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-10-24-en ) and as a member of
the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working group (
https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/6+Membership+and+Mailing+List+=
Archive
)

Since 2012, Ephraim is also been an Author and Translator through various
online publications such as Global Voices Online (
http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/ephraim-kenyanito/ ), (an
international network of bloggers, translators, and citizen journalists
that follow, report, and summarize what is going on in the blogosphere in
every corner of the world.) Ephraim also write through The Daily Journalist
(http://thedailyjournalist.com/author/ephraimkenyanito/ ) and through a
personal blog, =E2=80=9CThe Diary of a Global Citizen
<http://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/>=E2=80=9D (
http://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/ ). Previously he was a
Reporter and Multimedia Team member at European Journalism Centre=E2=80=99s
=E2=80=9CThinkBrigade
Project.=E2=80=9D (http://www.thinkbrigade.org/author/ephraim.k/ )

Ephraim has also been carrying out various African Regional Integration
projects with the East African Community Secretariat (Arusha, United
Republic of Tanzania) and was an Intern at the Kenyan Ministry of Foreign
Affairs & International Trade. He also has a passion for Democratic
Governance Issues and has been involved in research and promotion of
Governance Issues through projects facilitated by Transparency
International, MercyCorps (International) and Centre for Law and Research
International (CLARION) among other diverse-range of social development
organizations.

=E2=80=8B
=E2=80=8B
--

Best Regards,
=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B
*Ephraim Percy Kenyanito*
Website: http://about.me/ekenyanito
@ekenyanito
PGP: E6BA8DC1


On 29 September 2014 11:19, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Well noting stops both from happening....he's got the muscle ;)
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, William Drake <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Personally, I=E2=80=99d have preferred to see Ephraim getting more invol=
ved with
>> us in ICANN, but if he'd prefer for IGF to be his time sink I=E2=80=99d =
certainly
>> support him as well. :-)
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Patricia Gnilane Senghor <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I also support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the Africa
>> Region.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Patricia
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Sherly Haristya <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sherly
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje <[log in to unmask]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito 's nomination for the
>>>> Africa Region.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All the best Ephraim.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Benjamin
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wish to endorse the following nomination
>>>>>
>>>>> Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>>>>>
>>>>> Region of residence: Africa
>>>>>
>>>>> Nationality: Kenya
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > I wish to submit the following nomination
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Region of residence: Africa
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Nationality: Kenya
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Gender: Male
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ephraim brings a youth from developing countries perspective. He
>>>>> is a member of the interim steering committee for the Youth Coalition=
 on
>>>>> Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition of the IGF). He is an Intern=
et
>>>>> Governance Reform Fellow at Access (accessnow.org) and an affiliate
>>>>> at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Center for G=
lobal
>>>>> Communication Studies at the Annenberg School for Communication at th=
e
>>>>> University of Pennsylvania)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > He is a previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African
>>>>> regional level and more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertiv=
ely as
>>>>> a panelist on Developing countries participation in global IG, Youth =
and
>>>>> Net Neutrality issues in developing countries.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > In addition, he is a fellow of the African School on Internet
>>>>> Governance in South Africa (run by APC and NEPAD).
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on engaging with
>>>>> various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards
>>>>> > sent from Google nexus 4
>>>>> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> WISDOM DONKOR
>>>>> Sosftware / Network Engineer
>>>>> Web/Open Government Platform Portal Specialist
>>>>> National Information Technology Agency (NITA)
>>>>> Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Ghana
>>>>> Tel; +233 20 812881
>>>>> Email: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Skype: wisdom_dk
>>>>> facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk
>>>>> Website: www.nita.gov.gh / www.data.gov.gh
>>>>> www.isoc.gh / www.itag.org.gh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> *Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb:
> http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535*=
*alt
> email: <http://goog_1872880453>[log in to unmask]
> <[log in to unmask]>*
>
> The key to understanding is humility - my view !
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Dear Robin, =
all.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,h=
elvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Thanks all for the endorsements and mo=
re especially from the young people and those from the global south as this=
 are two constituencies that I am blessed to be part of.<br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small"><br></div>Please find my somewhat long and detailed statement bel=
ow. To respond to Bill, thanks for your endorsement and I=C2=A0<div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8Bdo ascertain that=E2=80=8B</div> I have th=
e energy and bandwidth to provide great ideas in defending user rights and =
advancing policy and advocacy engagements in this respect.<br><br><p dir=3D=
"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt" id=3D"do=
cs-internal-guid-54911eb7-c380-7acd-74ca-a25d02cbbd99"><span style=3D"font-=
size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);backgro=
und-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:nor=
mal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Name: Ephraim Percy Kenya=
nito</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;marg=
in-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New R=
oman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:norma=
l;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align=
:baseline">Region of residence: Africa</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"li=
ne-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:=
16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-c=
olor:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;t=
ext-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Nationality: </span></p><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font=
-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transpar=
ent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoratio=
n:none;vertical-align:baseline" id=3D"docs-internal-guid-54911eb7-c390-0069=
-8583-04aae5942764">Kenyan</span></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">=
=E2=80=8B</div><p></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0=
pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weigh=
t:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertica=
l-align:baseline">Gender: Male</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-heigh=
t:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:tra=
nsparent;font-weight:bold;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decora=
tion:none;vertical-align:baseline">Personal statement and IG-related work:<=
/span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bo=
ttom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:norma=
l;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align=
:baseline">I am a Policy Fellow working with the Policy team for </span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rg=
b(0,0,10);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;font-style:i=
talic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Acc=
ess (</span><a href=3D"https://www.accessnow.org/" style=3D"text-decoration=
:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;;color:rgb(43,130,173);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:norma=
l;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align=
:baseline">https://www.accessnow.org/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16=
px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(43,130,173);background=
-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:n=
ormal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> )</span><span style=3D=
"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(9,21,242)=
;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;fon=
t-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">, </span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rg=
b(0,0,10);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;font-style:n=
ormal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">whe=
re I focus on the connection between internet policy and human rights and s=
pecifically works on Internet Governance Reforms. Since joining Access, I h=
ave extensively supported Access in analyzing and contributing to internati=
onal and national African policy positions at major internet governance for=
a, including the recent NetMundial meeting, the International Telecommunica=
tion Union, and the African Union Convention on Cybersecurity, among others=
 and have assisted to extend and defend rights of users through =C2=A0ICANN=
 Civil Society related events.</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-heigh=
t:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:tra=
nsparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-deco=
ration:none;vertical-align:baseline">I a member of the interim steering com=
mittee for the Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition =
of the IGF). I am also an affiliate at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO=
) (</span><a href=3D"http://globalnetpolicy.org/about/ipo-affiliates/" styl=
e=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;=
Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-w=
eight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underlin=
e;vertical-align:baseline">http://globalnetpolicy.org/about/ipo-affiliates/=
</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;fon=
t-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:base=
line"> ) (created by the Center for Global Communication Studies at the Ann=
enberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania).</span><=
/p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10=
pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style=
:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">B=
eing only 21 years in July 2013, I was the youngest fellow of the African S=
chool on Internet Governance, held in South Africa and run by Association f=
or Progressive Communications (APC) and NEPAD (the technical body of the Af=
rican Union). In the mean time, I am scheduled to graduate from Law School =
in 2015 and I am also a Global Civics Student at the Global Civics Academy =
(</span><a href=3D"http://www.globalcivics.net/" style=3D"text-decoration:n=
one"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;=
color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:basel=
ine">www.globalcivics.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transpare=
nt;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration=
:none;vertical-align:baseline"> ) </span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-h=
eight:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px=
;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color=
:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-=
decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Prior to Access and Internet Polic=
y Observatory, </span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:=
normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-=
align:baseline">I have worked with Transparency International (Kenya Chapte=
r) in the Advocacy and Legal Advisory Centre (ALAC Eldoret Office) programm=
e as a Law Student Intern for two years. The programme offers free legal ad=
vice to victims and witnesses of corruption and at the same time empower me=
mbers of the Kenyan public to advocate for transparency and accountability =
in management of public affairs and is active in advocating for Freedom of =
Information and Data Protection Laws in Kenya.</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" sty=
le=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0);backg=
round-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"></span></p><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:=
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transparent;f=
ont-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:non=
e;vertical-align:baseline" id=3D"docs-internal-guid-54911eb7-c391-bdfb-f618=
-0989afdb9252">Post IGF 2011 in Nairobi Kenya, Transparency International-K=
enya has played active role in using ICTs in human rights, to the point of =
organizing a hack-a-thon which brings developers together to through a week=
end marathon of developing apps that can be used in human rights work. The =
programme also </span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight=
:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical=
-align:baseline">uses a toll free call centre, social media and FM radio pr=
ogrammes to empower and promote community participation in monitoring publi=
c service delivery.</span></div><p></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:=
1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-=
family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:trans=
parent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decora=
tion:none;vertical-align:baseline">I am a previous attendee at IGF at (as a=
n on-site participant and remotely) both at the global and African regional=
 level and more recently in the last IGF 2014 Istanbul, I engaged assertive=
ly </span></p><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helve=
tica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"fon=
t-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);backg=
round-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline" id=3D"docs-internal-gui=
d-54911eb7-c382-2d66-95b5-95568adbc101">as an on-site</span>=E2=80=8B</div>=
=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&qu=
ot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-=
style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseli=
ne"></span>=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:n=
ormal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-a=
lign:baseline"></span>=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&q=
uot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;fo=
nt-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none=
;vertical-align:baseline"> panellist<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"f=
ont-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=
=80=8B=E2=80=8B</div> on the following sessions:</span><p></p><p dir=3D"ltr=
" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=
=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10=
);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-va=
riant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Developing count=
ries participation in global IG- </span><a href=3D"http://www.intgovforum.o=
rg/cms/wks2014/index.php/proposal/view_public/114" style=3D"text-decoration=
:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot=
;;color:rgb(0,0,128);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:ba=
seline">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/wks2014/index.php/proposal/view_publ=
ic/114</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:norm=
al;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-alig=
n:baseline"> </span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top=
:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-wei=
ght:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;verti=
cal-align:baseline">Youth Coalition on Internet Governance- </span><a href=
=3D"http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/147-igf-2014/1861-igf-2014-youth-coaliti=
on-on-internet-governance-meeting" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,=
128);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font=
-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">www.intg=
ovforum.org/cms/147-igf-2014/1861-igf-2014-youth-coalition-on-internet-gove=
rnance-meeting</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-wei=
ght:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;verti=
cal-align:baseline"> =C2=A0</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1=
.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transp=
arent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decorat=
ion:none;vertical-align:baseline">Net Neutrality Main Session- </span><a hr=
ef=3D"https://igf2014.sched.org/event/11c53224e232d7f3298247f3ec624e44" sty=
le=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot=
;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,128);background-color:transparent;font=
-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underl=
ine;vertical-align:baseline">https://igf2014.sched.org/event/11c53224e232d7=
f3298247f3ec624e44</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font=
-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;v=
ertical-align:baseline"> I am a member of a number of academic, end-user an=
d activist mailing lists, and I plan to feed to consult report back about M=
AG discussions regularly.=C2=A0 I plan to also write regular blog posts in =
assisting with this purpose. </span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height=
:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:tran=
sparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decor=
ation:none;vertical-align:baseline">As a 22 year old youth, I believe that =
the youth are not leaders of tomorrow but of today and involving youth in I=
G processes ensures that there is no generational gap as regards to Interne=
t Policy advancement. </span></p><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=
=8B<span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:=
normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline" id=
=3D"docs-internal-guid-54911eb7-c388-b179-7820-8f107e4017d2">I have often b=
elieve that young people ought to be at the forefront in advancing democrat=
ic and positive institutional reform. </span>=E2=80=8B</div>My position is =
consistent with Civil Society views such as BestBits on the need for divers=
ity in terms of age (<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:aria=
l,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B</=
div>b<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans=
-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B</div><a href=3D"h=
ttp://estbits.net/2014-mag-nominations/">estbits.net/2014-mag-nominations/<=
/a> ) and Internet Governance Caucus that =E2=80=9C..Targeting youth groups=
 or the younger generation of professionals will have, in the long run, an =
effective impact..=E2=80=9D (<a href=3D"http://igcaucus.org/answers-cstd-qu=
estionnaire-improvements-igf-19-november-2010" style=3D"text-decoration:non=
e"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(0,0,128);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style=
:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseli=
ne">http://igcaucus.org/answers-cstd-questionnaire-improvements-igf-19-nove=
mber-2010</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:n=
ormal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-a=
lign:baseline"> )</span><p></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;mar=
gin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;f=
ont-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:non=
e;vertical-align:baseline">This gap on youth involvement in IG has repeated=
ly been identified during subsequent, IGFs and more recently in IGF 2014, a=
ttendees pointed out that youth are about 3% minority in the IGF community =
(September 5</span><span style=3D"font-size:10px;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:no=
rmal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-al=
ign:super">th</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:n=
ormal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-a=
lign:baseline"> 2014 11.00 Taking Stock</span></p><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display=
:inline">=E2=80=8B =E2=80=8B</div>/ Emerging issues), which is consistent w=
ith 23 November 2010 IGF MAG Meeting (<a href=3D"http://igf.wgig.org/cms/ma=
g/102-igf-2010/transcripts2010" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=
=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,12=
8);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">http://igf=
.wgig.org/cms/mag/102-igf-2010/transcripts2010</span></a><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);backg=
round-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> ) where it was stated,=
 =E2=80=9C...I think that we should have an opportunity to provide it -- to=
 provide opportunities for youth representation from African countries, Asi=
an, former USSR, other countries, to make it the IGF&#39;s better mandate..=
.=E2=80=9D</span><p></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top=
:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-wei=
ght:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;verti=
cal-align:baseline">My views for IGF reform are that Civil Society needs to=
 take a more prominent role in the IGF decision making and this is outlined=
 at this BestBits statement: =C2=A0</span><a href=3D"http://bestbits.net/ig=
f-2014-submission/" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-size=
:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,128);background=
-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal=
;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">&lt;http://bestbits.net=
/igf-2014-submission/&gt;</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transpare=
nt;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration=
:none;vertical-align:baseline"> and in this IG- Caucus 2010 statement that =
is still relevant to-date: </span><a href=3D"http://www.unctad.info/upload/=
CSTD-IGF/Contributions/M1/CSIGC.pdf" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,=
0,128);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;fo=
nt-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">http:/=
/www.unctad.info/upload/CSTD-IGF/Contributions/M1/CSIGC.pdf</span></a><span=
 style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(=
0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;f=
ont-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> </span></=
p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10p=
t"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:bold;font-style:no=
rmal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Bio<=
/span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bo=
ttom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&=
quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:norma=
l;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align=
:baseline">Ephraim is a Policy Fellow working with the Policy team for </sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;font-s=
tyle:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baselin=
e">Access (</span><a href=3D"https://www.accessnow.org/" style=3D"text-deco=
ration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;;color:rgb(43,130,173);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight=
:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical=
-align:baseline">https://www.accessnow.org/</span></a><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(43,130,173);back=
ground-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-var=
iant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> )</span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(9,2=
1,242);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;font-style:norm=
al;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">, </sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-weight:normal;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baselin=
e">where he focuses on the connection between internet policy and human rig=
hts and specifically works on Internet Governance Reforms. At Access, Ephra=
im has enthusiastically and extensively supported Access in analyzing and c=
ontributing to international and national African policy positions at major=
 internet governance fora, including the recent NetMundial meeting, the Int=
ernational Telecommunication Union, and the African Union Convention on Cyb=
ersecurity, among others. </span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.=
15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transpa=
rent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decorati=
on:none;vertical-align:baseline">He is a member of the interim steering com=
mittee for the Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coalition =
of the IGF) and is a global member of ISOC and served as a member of 2014&#=
39;s Kenya Internet Governance Forum Steering committee (</span><a href=3D"=
http://kenyaigf.or.ke/index.php/about-kigf/kigf-team" style=3D"text-decorat=
ion:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&q=
uot;;color:rgb(0,0,128);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;fon=
t-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align=
:baseline">http://kenyaigf.or.ke/index.php/about-kigf/kigf-team</span></a><=
span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:=
rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:norm=
al;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">). He =
is also an affiliate at the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (</span><a hr=
ef=3D"http://globalnetpolicy.org/about/ipo-affiliates/" style=3D"text-decor=
ation:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman=
&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;fo=
nt-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-alig=
n:baseline">http://globalnetpolicy.org/about/ipo-affiliates/</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb=
(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;=
font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> ) (creat=
ed by the Center for Global Communication Studies at the Annenberg School f=
or Communication at the University of Pennsylvania).</span></p><p dir=3D"lt=
r" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,1=
0);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-v=
ariant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Being only 21 y=
ears in July 2013, he was the youngest graduate of the African School on In=
ternet Governance, held in South Africa. He also has training in Internet P=
olicy and Media Law from University of Oxford and University of Pennsylvani=
a. In the mean time, he is scheduled to graduate from Law School in 2015 an=
d is also a Global Civics Student at the Global Civics Academy (</span><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.globalcivics.net/" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,=
0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;fon=
t-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">www.glo=
balcivics.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Tim=
es New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weig=
ht:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertic=
al-align:baseline"> ) </span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;m=
argin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-famil=
y:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparen=
t;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:=
none;vertical-align:baseline">Ephraim has participated in ICANN as a member=
 of Non Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) (</span><a href=3D"http://www.=
ncuc.org/about/members/" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font=
-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);backgr=
ound-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:no=
rmal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">www.ncuc.org/about/=
members/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:no=
rmal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-al=
ign:baseline"> ) and as a member of the ICANN Fellowship alumni network. He=
 has participated in all the 2014 ICANN Civil Society related events and ha=
s been volunteering part of his free time as an Independent expert at ICANN=
&#39;s</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roma=
n&quot;;color:rgb(9,21,242);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal=
;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:=
baseline"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:nor=
mal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-ali=
gn:baseline">Implementation Advisory Group for Competition, Consumer Trust =
and Consumer Choice (IAG-CCT)</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(9,21,242);background-color:transpa=
rent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decorati=
on:none;vertical-align:baseline"> (</span><a href=3D"https://www.icann.org/=
news/announcement-2013-10-24-en" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=
=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(9,21,2=
42);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-=
variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-align:baseline">https://w=
ww.icann.org/news/announcement-2013-10-24-en</span></a><span style=3D"font-=
size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(9,21,242);backg=
round-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> ) </span><span style=
=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10=
);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-va=
riant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">and as a member =
of the Translation and Transliteration PDP Working group (</span><a href=3D=
"https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/6+Membership+and+Mailing+List=
+Archive" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font=
-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:tran=
sparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decor=
ation:underline;vertical-align:baseline">https://community.icann.org/displa=
y/tatcipdp/6+Membership+and+Mailing+List+Archive</span></a><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);bac=
kground-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant=
:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> )</span></p><p dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:12pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb=
(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;=
font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">Since 201=
2, Ephraim is also been an Author and Translator through various online pub=
lications such as </span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Ti=
mes New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-wei=
ght:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;verti=
cal-align:baseline">Global Voices Online</span><span style=3D"font-size:16p=
x;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(43,130,173);background-=
color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;=
text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> (</span><a href=3D"http://gl=
obalvoicesonline.org/author/ephraim-kenyanito/" style=3D"text-decoration:no=
ne"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;c=
olor:rgb(43,130,173);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-s=
tyle:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baselin=
e">http://globalvoicesonline.org/author/ephraim-kenyanito/</span></a><span =
style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(4=
3,130,173);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:itali=
c;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> </span=
><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:it=
alic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">)</s=
pan><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style=
:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">,=
 (an international network of </span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:transpare=
nt;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration=
:none;vertical-align:baseline">bloggers</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px=
;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color=
:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-=
decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">, translators, and citizen journal=
ists that follow, report, and summarize what is going on in the blogosphere=
 in every corner of the world.) Ephraim also write through </span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,=
10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-=
variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">The Daily Jour=
nalist </span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Rom=
an&quot;;color:rgb(43,130,173);background-color:transparent;font-weight:nor=
mal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-ali=
gn:baseline">(</span><a href=3D"http://thedailyjournalist.com/author/ephrai=
mkenyanito/" style=3D"text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;f=
ont-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(43,130,173);background-col=
or:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;tex=
t-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">http://thedailyjournalist.com/au=
thor/ephraimkenyanito/</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:=
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(43,130,173);background-color:transpar=
ent;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoratio=
n:none;vertical-align:baseline"> ) </span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:tra=
nsparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-deco=
ration:none;vertical-align:baseline">and through a personal blog, =E2=80=9C=
</span><a href=3D"http://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/" style=3D"=
text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times=
 New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight=
:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical=
-align:baseline">The Diary of a Global Citizen</span></a><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);backg=
round-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:n=
ormal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">=E2=80=9D</span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(9,=
21,242);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;f=
ont-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> (</span><=
a href=3D"http://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/" style=3D"text-dec=
oration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Rom=
an&quot;;color:rgb(9,21,242);background-color:transparent;font-weight:norma=
l;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;vertical-=
align:baseline">http://thediaryofaglobalcitizen.wordpress.com/</span></a><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:r=
gb(9,21,242);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:nor=
mal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline"> </sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:=
normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">).=
 Previously he was a Reporter and Multimedia Team member at European Journa=
lism Centre=E2=80=99s</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot=
;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(9,21,242);background-color:transparent;fon=
t-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;=
vertical-align:baseline"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:=
&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;=
font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:no=
ne;vertical-align:baseline">=E2=80=9C</span><span style=3D"font-size:16px;f=
ont-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:t=
ransparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;font-variant:normal;text-de=
coration:none;vertical-align:baseline">ThinkBrigade Project</span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,=
10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;font-=
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an><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;;co=
lor:rgb(9,21,242);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-styl=
e:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">=
 (</span><a href=3D"http://www.thinkbrigade.org/author/ephraim.k/" style=3D=
"text-decoration:none"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Time=
s New Roman&quot;;color:rgb(9,21,242);background-color:transparent;font-wei=
ght:normal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:underline;=
vertical-align:baseline">http://www.thinkbrigade.org/author/ephraim.k/</spa=
n></a><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;=
;color:rgb(9,21,242);background-color:transparent;font-weight:normal;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baselin=
e"> )</span></p><p dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"line-height:1.15;margin-top:12pt;ma=
rgin-bottom:10pt"><span style=3D"font-size:16px;font-family:&quot;Times New=
 Roman&quot;;color:rgb(0,0,10);background-color:transparent;font-weight:nor=
mal;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-ali=
gn:baseline">Ephraim has also been carrying out various African Regional In=
tegration projects with the East African Community Secretariat (Arusha, Uni=
ted Republic of Tanzania) and was an Intern at the Kenyan Ministry of Forei=
gn Affairs &amp; International Trade. He also has a passion for Democratic =
Governance Issues and has been involved in research and promotion of Govern=
ance Issues through projects facilitated by Transparency International, Mer=
cyCorps (International) and Centre for Law and Research International (CLAR=
ION) among other diverse-range of social development organizations.</span><=
/p><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34=
);font-family:arial;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;f=
ont-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start=
;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;ba=
ckground-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><div><p><span style=3D"background-color:rg=
ba(255,255,255,0);font-size:13pt"></span></p><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inli=
ne">=E2=80=8B<span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0);font-size:=
13pt"></span><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvet=
ica,sans-serif;font-size:small;display:inline">=E2=80=8B</div>--<p>Best Reg=
ards,<span style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;f=
ont-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:norm=
al;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;=
white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);displ=
ay:inline!important;float:none"></span></p><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34=
);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:n=
ormal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:no=
ne;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);fo=
nt-family:garamond,serif;font-size:large;display:inline">=E2=80=8B=E2=80=8B=
</div><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:r=
gb(136,136,136)">Ephraim Percy Kenyanito</span></b><span style=3D"font-size=
:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)"></span><span sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;font-style:norm=
al;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height=
:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:no=
rmal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)"><br>Websit=
e: </span></span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family=
:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(136,136,136)"><a href=
=3D"http://about.me/ekenyanito" target=3D"_blank">http://about.me/ekenyanit=
o</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;line-height:115%;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:rgb(136,136,136)"></span><di=
v><div style=3D"color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial;font-size:small;font-=
style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;l=
ine-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;whit=
e-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight:normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)">@ekenyanito<br></span></span><span style=
=3D"font-weight:normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,san=
s-serif;color:rgb(136,136,136)">PGP: E6BA8DC1</span></span></div></div></di=
v><p></p></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 29 September 2014 11:19, Seun Ojedeji <sp=
an dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,=
204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Well noting stops both fro=
m happening....he&#39;s got the muscle ;)<br><br></div>Cheers!<br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><div><div class=3D"h5"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, William Drake <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Hi<div><br></div><div>Personally, I=E2=80=99=
d have preferred to see Ephraim getting more involved with us in ICANN, but=
 if he&#39;d prefer for IGF to be his time sink I=E2=80=99d certainly suppo=
rt him as well. :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>=
Bill<div><div><br>
<br><div><div>On Sep 29, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Patricia Gnilane Senghor &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">patricia.=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello everyone,<br><br>I also support Ephraim Percy Ken=
yanito &#39;s nomination for the Africa Region.<br><br></div>Best,<br><br>P=
atricia<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Sherly Haristya <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">sherly.haristya@=
gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I also support the nomination of Ephraim. Thank=
s.<div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Sherly</div></div><div><div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at=
 7:17 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:benak=
[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hello,<d=
iv>I am excited to support Ephraim Percy Kenyanito &#39;s nomination for th=
e Africa Region.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>All the best Ephra=
im.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you</div><span><font color=3D"#888888">B=
enjamin</font></span></div><div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Wisdom Donkor <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">wisdo=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex">I wish to endorse the following nomination<span><br><br>Name=
: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br><br>Region of residence: Africa<br><br>Nationa=
lity: Kenya<br><br></span><span>On Thursday, September 25, 2014, Seun Ojede=
ji &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">seun.oje=
[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; I wish to submit the following nomina=
tion<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Name: Ephraim Percy Kenyanito<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Region o=
f residence: Africa<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Nationality: Kenya<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Gend=
er: Male<br>&gt;<br></span>&gt; Ephraim brings a youth from developing=C2=
=A0countries=C2=A0perspective. He is=C2=A0a member of the interim steering =
committee for the Youth Coalition on Internet Governance (a Dynamic Coaliti=
on of the IGF). He is an Internet Governance Reform Fellow at Access (<a hr=
ef=3D"http://accessnow.org/" target=3D"_blank">accessnow.org</a>) and an af=
filiate at=C2=A0the Internet Policy Observatory (IPO) (created by the Cente=
r for Global Communication Studies=C2=A0at the Annenberg School for Communi=
cation at the University of Pennsylvania)<span><br>&gt;<br>&gt; He is a=C2=
=A0previous attendee at IGF at both the global and African regional level a=
nd more recently in Istanbul, he has engaged assertively as a panelist on D=
eveloping countries participation in global IG, Youth and Net Neutrality is=
sues in developing countries.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In addition, he is a fellow o=
f the African School on Internet Governance in South Africa (run by APC and=
 NEPAD).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Ephraim brings with him a wealth of experience on =
engaging with various stakeholders from the developing world perspective.<b=
r>&gt;<br>&gt; Regards<br>&gt; sent from Google nexus 4<br>&gt; kindly excu=
se brevity and typos.<br><br></span>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>WISDOM DON=
KOR<br></div><div>Sosftware / Network Engineer<br></div>Web/Open Government=
 Platform Portal Specialist<br><div><div>National Information Technology Ag=
ency (NITA) <br></div><div>Post Office Box CT. 2439, Cantonments, Accra, Gh=
ana</div><div>Tel; +233 20 812881</div><div>Email: <a href=3D"mailto:wisdom=
[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div>=
<a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">wisdom.donko=
[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div><a href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" targ=
et=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a><br></div><div>Skype: wisdom_dk</div><=
div>facebook: facebook@wisdom_dk<br></div><div>Website: <a href=3D"http://w=
ww.nita.gov.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.nita.gov.gh</a> / <a href=3D"http://=
www.data.gov.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.data.gov.gh</a><br></div><div><a hr=
ef=3D"http://www.isoc.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.isoc.gh</a> / <a href=3D"h=
ttp://www.itag.org.gh/" target=3D"_blank">www.itag.org.gh</a> <br><br></div=
></div></div><br>
</blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br><br c=
lear=3D"all"><br></div></div><span class=3D""><font color=3D"#888888">-- <b=
r><div dir=3D"ltr">--------------------------------------------------------=
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 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;font=
-family:garamond,serif">
<i><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)">Seun Ojedeji,<br style=3D"color:rgb(0=
,102,0)"></span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)">Federal University Oye-E=
kiti<br style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,=
0)">web:=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 </span><a href=3D"http://www.fuoye.edu.ng" tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.fuoye.edu.ng</a><br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)=
">Mobile: <a value=3D"+2348035233535">+2348035233535</a></span><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)"></span><br></i><i><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,102,0)=
">alt email:<a href=3D"http://goog_1872880453" target=3D"_blank"> </a><a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">seun.ojedeji@fuoy=
e.edu.ng</a></span></i><br><br><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The key to under=
standing is humility - my view !<br></blockquote></blockquote></font><br></=
div>
</font></span></div>
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Hi all!!

"Internet World Stats presents its latest estimates for=0A=
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Top 10 Languages
http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm

Good read!

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Impressive that Arabic is so high on the list, all factors considered.

2014-09-30 11:07 GMT+03:00 Mamadou LO <[log in to unmask]>:

> Hi all!!
>
>
> *"Internet World Stats presents its latest estimates for Internet Users by
> Language.."*
> Top 10 Languages
> http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm
>
> Good read!
>
> Mamadou
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">Impressive that Arabic is so high on the list, all factors=
 considered. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote">2014-09-30 11:07 GMT+03:00 Mamadou LO <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
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om</a>&gt;</span>:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


<div><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi all!!<br><br><font style=3D"font-size:10pt" size=
=3D"+2" color=3D"#000099" face=3D"Verdana"><b><font color=3D"#000099" face=
=3D"Arial"><b>&quot;Internet World Stats presents its latest estimates for
 Internet Users by Language..&quot;</b></font><br></b><br>Top 10 Languages<=
/font><br><a href=3D"http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm</a><br><br>Good re=
ad!<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br><br>Mamadou<br> 		 	 =
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr">Grace =
L.N. Mutung&#39;u <br>Nairobi Kenya<br>Skype: gracebomu<br>Twitter: @Bomu<b=
r><div><br><a href=3D"http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceM=
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Two important things

1. Relative #user/#population by language

2. Relative growing rate

Useful info=20

Carlos Vera Quintana
0988141143
S=C3=ADgueme @cveraq

> El 30/9/2014, a las 3:07, Mamadou LO <[log in to unmask]> escribi=C3=B3=
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> Hi all!!
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> Top 10 Languages
> http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm
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iv><div>1. Relative #user/#population by language</div><div><br></div><div>2=
. Relative growing rate</div><div><br></div><div>Useful info&nbsp;</div><div=
><br>Carlos Vera Quintana<div>0988141143</div><div>S=C3=ADgueme @cveraq</div=
></div><div><br>El 30/9/2014, a las 3:07, Mamadou LO &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:a=
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ce=3D"Arial"><b>"Internet World Stats presents its latest estimates for
 Internet Users by Language.."</b></font><br></b><br>Top 10 Languages</font>=
<br><a href=3D"http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm" target=3D"_blan=
k">http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats7.htm</a><br><br>Good read!<br><br=
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Date:         Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:16:49 -0300
Reply-To:     Enrique Chaparro <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject:      Re: "INTERNET WORLD USERS BY LANGUAGE"
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Thankyou, Mamadou!

Despite the effort, the information is not very useful:
* Uneven criteria for calculating number of speakers. E.g. while the number of
  Spanish speakers has been calculated on the basis of the population of the
  the countries where Spanish is the official language, the number of English
  speakers has been calculated on other (unknown) basis.
* That leads to a gross understatement of the number of Spanish speakers
  (perhaps others too, but I have no reliable figures), by excluding
e.g. the 40+
  million people in the US that have Spanish as their mother tongue.[1]
* But even if those figures were correct (or based on the same assumptions),
  they are of little use. When trying to analyze linguistic diversity
in the Internet,
  we should take into account two factors:
  (a) The number of people proficient enough in a language to clearly understand
      contents written in that language, and
  (b) The volume of contents available for each language.
* There is another, seemingly unsurmountable problem: while Internet penetration
  rates are calculated on country basis, such distribution is often
uneven across
  language borders. E.g., Internet access for primarily Quechua-speaking
  communities in Bolivia, Peru,  Ecuador and Colombia, where Spanish is the
  majority language,  is well below the related national averages.[2]

Regards,

Enrique

[1] The total number of people having Spanish as their first language or usual
    communication language beyond their family/community group could be
    estimated around 487 million, give or take 1 %.

[2] And I won't even tuch the issue of contents, which are less than minimal
for a language spoken by about 9 million people.
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Date:         Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:41:46 +0000
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Thanks Enrique!
That's why we usually share informations above all informations from press.=
 Giving opportunity to internet actors to be informed or to see and respond=
 to wrong statements included in those articles!

Mamadou!

> Date: Tue=2C 30 Sep 2014 14:16:49 -0300
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: "INTERNET WORLD USERS BY LANGUAGE"
> To: [log in to unmask]
>=20
> Thankyou=2C Mamadou!
>=20
> Despite the effort=2C the information is not very useful:
> * Uneven criteria for calculating number of speakers. E.g. while the numb=
er of
>   Spanish speakers has been calculated on the basis of the population of =
the
>   the countries where Spanish is the official language=2C the number of E=
nglish
>   speakers has been calculated on other (unknown) basis.
> * That leads to a gross understatement of the number of Spanish speakers
>   (perhaps others too=2C but I have no reliable figures)=2C by excluding
> e.g. the 40+
>   million people in the US that have Spanish as their mother tongue.[1]
> * But even if those figures were correct (or based on the same assumption=
s)=2C
>   they are of little use. When trying to analyze linguistic diversity
> in the Internet=2C
>   we should take into account two factors:
>   (a) The number of people proficient enough in a language to clearly und=
erstand
>       contents written in that language=2C and
>   (b) The volume of contents available for each language.
> * There is another=2C seemingly unsurmountable problem: while Internet pe=
netration
>   rates are calculated on country basis=2C such distribution is often
> uneven across
>   language borders. E.g.=2C Internet access for primarily Quechua-speakin=
g
>   communities in Bolivia=2C Peru=2C  Ecuador and Colombia=2C where Spanis=
h is the
>   majority language=2C  is well below the related national averages.[2]
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> Regards=2C
>=20
> Enrique
>=20
> [1] The total number of people having Spanish as their first language or =
usual
>     communication language beyond their family/community group could be
>     estimated around 487 million=2C give or take 1 %.
>=20
> [2] And I won't even tuch the issue of contents=2C which are less than mi=
nimal
> for a language spoken by about 9 million people.
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Date:         Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:48:09 -0400
Reply-To:     Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>
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The following is the statement I sent to the bestbits list.

I would appreciate NCSG endorsement of my candidacy.

Thanks

avri





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Subject: RE: [bestbits] Call for nominations for civil society
representatives for the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group (MAG)
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 14:43:06 -0400
From: Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>
To: Bits [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>

Hi,

This note is a follow up to Jeanette's nomination of me for IGF MAG
candidacy.


 * Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups
    working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out
    assertively on behalf of public interest concerns.

Since switching from being primarily an ICT for Development researcher
to participation in Internet governance discussions at the WSIS
meeting post Geneva in 2003, I have associated with civil society and
participated as civil society in many venues.  Using the 3 way split
established in WSIS and required by the IGF, I associate with Civil
Society.  I am a member of the IGC and of the NCSG, participate in
Bestbits and work part time for APC. I have requested that APC endorse
my nomination. I believe NCSG is also considering it.

I also associate with both of the Tunis Agenda cross cutting groups:
Academia and the Internet Community.  In terms of this call for the
MAG, I am only being considered by Civil Society and would not agree
to being considered by more that one of the groups.

I believe I have been vocal and assertive in behalf of public interest
concerns as I understand them, whether they were my issues or the
issues held by others in civil society.


  * Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS
    networks (including beyond those focused on internet governance
    where appropriate) on MAG discussions.

I am most willing to do so and believe that when I have had roles in
civil society, have shown that I have done so.  Reporting back to my
community (ies) is a responsibility I take seriously. I have on
occasion been slower at doing it than is optimal, but I keep trying to
improve.

While Civil Society does not come with one opinion, I think it is
important for an appointee from a stakeholder group to do her best to
make sure that the variety of the stakeholder group's views is
expressed on issues as best as possible.  One cannot just argue ones
own view, but must make sure that all views expressed in the
stakeholder group are given sufficient expression in discussions and
in consensus building.

  * Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level.

I have attended all of the IGF meetings since it was created.  For the
first 5 years I attended as a member of the IGF Secretariat.  The last
few years I attended as a civil society participant.  As I have
mentioned, I also consider myself to be part of the Internet Technical
Community.  In Bali, I briefly wore a badge that indicated I was
Technical Community, but it did not feel quite right, so I got a
another badge made that said Civil Society.

I have also attended several IGF-USA and EuroDIG.

I am a member of the IGF Support Association (IGFSA) Executive Committee.


  * Willing, available and able to participate effectively and
    constructively in the MAG deliberations.

I am willing, will makes myself available, and believe that I am able
to participate effectively and constructively in the MAG.  I believe
that the MAG has lots of work to do, together with with the community,
to enable the IGF continue to improve.  It is exciting that it is
starting to work on outcomes and continuing work between annual
meetings.  This is a trend I believe must be reinforced.  I also
believe that the MAG needs to make greater use of its UN DESA advisory
capabilities to bring the community the sort of progress and processes
they expect from the IGF.


My standard bio:

Ms. Doria is an itinerant research consultant. She is a member of the
ICANN GNSO council as a representative of the Non-Commercial
Stakeholder Group (NCSG) and was previously chair of the GNSO Council.
 She is a member of the UN Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation
(WGEC) and was a member of the UN Working Group on Internet
Governance (WGIG). As a contractor she spent 5 years as a member the
Internet Governance Forum (IGF) Secretariat, is a part time research
associate for the Association for Progressive Communications (APC),
part time VP for Policy and Governance at dotgay LLC working with the
LGBTQI community and working with PIR to establish a secretariat for
their community advisory council. As a technologist she has been
involved in the development of Internet protocols and architectures
for over 30 years, is a participant in the IETF, and a past chair of
the IRTF Routing Research Group.  She is the author of multiple RFCs
and occasionally teaches on Internet governance subjects. Ms. Doria
was awarded the ICANN Multistakeholder Ethos award in 2014.




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I want to be sure that I've got all the nominations that have gone on to =
this NCSG list for the IGF MAG representatives for civil society.  So =
please let me know asap if I am missing anyone, or if you'd like to =
nominate another person in this last day of open nominations before the =
names are passed on to the Civil Society Coordination Committee.

So, here is the list of nominees on this list (in alphabetical order):
  John Dada
  Avri Doria
  Lea Kasper
  Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
  Matt Shears

Anyone else?

Thanks!
Robin

On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:

> Catching up my email backlog last-in-first-out (several weeks of low =
work level due to family issues [health of my mother]) I=92m checking =
now the status here and would like to know how many nominations have =
been received ?=20
>=20
> Rudi Vansnick
>=20
> Op 28-sep.-2014, om 22:30 heeft Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> het =
volgende geschreven:
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>> Last call for nominations for civil society representatives to the =
Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) for next year's Internet =
Governance Forum (IGF) - see below announcement. =20
>>=20
>> Let's get some good people on the IGF MAG to replace the many good =
ones who are leaving this year.  We need more candidates!  Nominate =
before 30 Sept. 2014 for possible endorsement by the Civil Society =
Coordination Group.  More details below.
>>=20
>> Thank you!
>> Robin
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>>=20
>>> This is a call for nominations for civil society representatives for =
the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group (MAG).
>>>=20
>>>  This nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil =
society coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just =
Net Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination =
Group. You are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual =
coalitions. Nominations close on Tuesday, September 30, 2014.
>>>  If you wish to nominate via the Noncommercial Stakeholder Group =
(NCSG), or if you have been nominated and wish to accept, please do so =
either on this list or by email sent to me at the address Robin (at) =
ipjustice (dot) org.
>>>  Please include in your nomination the nominee=92s name, country of =
residence and nationality, and gender. Please also specifically address =
each of the selection criteria below, giving us examples and evidence of =
how the nominee meets each of the individual selection criteria.
>>>  CRITERIA
>>> * Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups
>>>   working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out =
assertively
>>> on behalf of public interest concerns.
>>>=20
>>> * Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS =
networks
>>> (including beyond those focused on internet governance where =
appropriate) on
>>> MAG discussions.=20
>>>=20
>>> * Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level.
>>>=20
>>> * Willing, available and able to participate effectively and =
constructively
>>> in the MAG deliberations.
>>> =20
>>> Existing MAG members seeking CSCG endorsement should also follow =
this process.
>>>=20
>>> Nominations must close on Tuesday, September 30. The list of =
candidates endorsed by CSCG will be published no later than October 16.
>>>=20
>>> More about the IGF and the MAG can be obtained from =
www.intgovforum.org
>>=20
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<html><head></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I =
want to be sure that I've got all the nominations that have gone on to =
this NCSG list for the IGF MAG representatives for civil society. =
&nbsp;So please let me know asap if I am missing anyone, or if you'd =
like to nominate another person in this last day of open nominations =
before the names are passed on to the Civil Society Coordination =
Committee.<div><br></div><div>So, here is the list of nominees on this =
list (in alphabetical order):</div><div><div>&nbsp; John =
Dada</div><div>&nbsp; Avri Doria</div><div>&nbsp; Lea =
Kasper</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"color: rgb(0, =
0, 10); line-height: 18px; ">&nbsp; Ephraim Percy =
Kenyanito</span></div><div><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 10); line-height: 18px; ">&nbsp; Matt =
Shears</span></div></div><div><br><div>Anyone =
else?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>Robin</div><div><br><div>=
<div>On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dwindows-1252"><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space;">Catching up my email backlog last-in-first-out =
(several weeks of low work level due to family issues [health of my =
mother]) I=92m checking now the status here and would like to know how =
many nominations have been received ?&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Rudi =
Vansnick<br><div apple-content-edited=3D"true">
</div>
<br><div><div>Op 28-sep.-2014, om 22:30 heeft Robin Gross &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; het =
volgende geschreven:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Last call for nominations for =
civil society representatives to the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group =
(MAG) for next year's Internet Governance Forum (IGF) - see below =
announcement. &nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Let's get some good people on =
the IGF MAG to replace the many good ones who are leaving this year. =
&nbsp;We need more candidates! &nbsp;Nominate before 30 Sept. 2014 for =
possible endorsement by the Civil Society Coordination Group. &nbsp;More =
details below.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank =
you!</div><div>Robin<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 18, =
2014, at 12:32 PM, Robin Gross wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><p class=3D"MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; =
margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; ">This is a call for nominations for civil society representatives =
for the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group =
(MAG).</font></font></span></p><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: =
13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times =
New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
"></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; ">This =
nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil society =
coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just Net =
Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination Group. =
You are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual =
coalitions. <b>Nominations close on Tuesday, September 30, =
2014</b>.</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; "></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; =
font-size: 15px; ">If you wish to nominate via the Noncommercial =
Stakeholder Group (NCSG), or if you have been nominated and wish to =
accept, please do so either on this list or by email sent to me at the =
address <b><i>Robin (at) ipjustice (dot) org</i></b>.</span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 10pt; =
margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: Calibri; font-size: =
small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; "></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; ">Please =
include in your nomination the nominee=92s name, country of residence =
and nationality, and gender. Please also specifically address each of =
the selection criteria below, giving us examples and evidence of how the =
nominee meets each of the individual selection =
criteria.</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; =
margin-bottom: 10pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: 13pt; font-family: =
Calibri; font-size: small; "><b><span><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
"></font></font></span>&nbsp;<span class=3D"Apple-style-span" =
style=3D"font-family: 'Times New Roman'; font-size: 15px; =
">CRITERIA</span></b></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: =
0cm; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0cm; line-height: normal; =
font-family: Calibri; font-size: small; "><span><font face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><font style=3D"font-size: 11pt; ">* Past record of active =
engagement as part of civil society groups<br>&nbsp; working on internet =
governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively<br>on behalf of =
public interest concerns.<br><br>* Willingness and commitment to consult =
with and report back to CS networks<br>(including beyond those focused =
on internet governance where appropriate) on<br>MAG =
discussions.&nbsp;<br><br>* Previous attendee at IGF at a global or =
regional level.<br><br>* Willing, available and able to participate =
effectively and constructively<br>in the MAG =
deliberations.</font></font></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0cm; =
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Date:         Wed, 1 Oct 2014 06:37:19 +0300
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Subject:      Re: Civil Society Coordination Group Call for Nominations to IGF
              2015 Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) to Represent Civil
              Society on IGF-MAG
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Another + for Ephraim Percy Kenyanito.

James Njoroge Gitau
Nairobi Kenya

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I want to be sure that I've got all the nominations that have gone on to
> this NCSG list for the IGF MAG representatives for civil society.  So
> please let me know asap if I am missing anyone, or if you'd like to
> nominate another person in this last day of open nominations before the
> names are passed on to the Civil Society Coordination Committee.
>
> So, here is the list of nominees on this list (in alphabetical order):
>   John Dada
>   Avri Doria
>   Lea Kasper
>   Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
>   Matt Shears
>
> Anyone else?
>
> Thanks!
> Robin
>
> On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:
>
> Catching up my email backlog last-in-first-out (several weeks of low work
> level due to family issues [health of my mother]) I'm checking now the
> status here and would like to know how many nominations have been received
> ?
>
> Rudi Vansnick
>
> Op 28-sep.-2014, om 22:30 heeft Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]> het
> volgende geschreven:
>
> Last call for nominations for civil society representatives to the
> Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) for next year's Internet Governance
> Forum (IGF) - see below announcement.
>
> Let's get some good people on the IGF MAG to replace the many good ones
> who are leaving this year.  We need more candidates!  Nominate before 30
> Sept. 2014 for possible endorsement by the Civil Society Coordination
> Group.  More details below.
>
> Thank you!
> Robin
>
>
> On Sep 18, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Robin Gross wrote:
>
> This is a call for nominations for civil society representatives for the
> IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group (MAG).
>  This nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil society
> coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just Net
> Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination Group. You
> are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual coalitions. *Nominations
> close on Tuesday, September 30, 2014*.
>  If you wish to nominate via the Noncommercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG),
> or if you have been nominated and wish to accept, please do so either on
> this list or by email sent to me at the address *Robin (at) ipjustice
> (dot) org*.
>  Please include in your nomination the nominee's name, country of
> residence and nationality, and gender. Please also specifically address
> each of the selection criteria below, giving us examples and evidence of
> how the nominee meets each of the individual selection criteria.
> * CRITERIA*
> * Past record of active engagement as part of civil society groups
>   working on internet governance issues, acting or speaking out assertively
> on behalf of public interest concerns.
>
> * Willingness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS networks
> (including beyond those focused on internet governance where appropriate)
> on
> MAG discussions.
>
> * Previous attendee at IGF at a global or regional level.
>
> * Willing, available and able to participate effectively and constructively
> in the MAG deliberations.
>
>
> Existing MAG members seeking CSCG endorsement should also follow this
> process.
>
> Nominations must close on Tuesday, September 30. The list of candidates
> endorsed by CSCG will be published no later than October 16.
> More about the IGF and the MAG can be obtained from www.intgovforum.org
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div>Another + for <span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,10);l=
ine-height:18px">Ephraim Percy Kenyanito.<br><br></span></div><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(0,0,10);line-height:18px">James Njoroge Gitau<br></span></div=
><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,10);line-height:18px">Nairobi Kenya<br></span=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Se=
p 30, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Robin Gross <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bord=
er-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word=
">I want to be sure that I&#39;ve got all the nominations that have gone on=
 to this NCSG list for the IGF MAG representatives for civil society.&nbsp;=
 So please let me know asap if I am missing anyone, or if you&#39;d like to=
 nominate another person in this last day of open nominations before the na=
mes are passed on to the Civil Society Coordination Committee.<div><br></di=
v><div>So, here is the list of nominees on this list (in alphabetical order=
):</div><div><div>&nbsp; John Dada</div><div>&nbsp; Avri Doria</div><div>&n=
bsp; Lea Kasper</div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,10);line-height:18px=
">&nbsp; Ephraim Percy Kenyanito</span></div><div><span style=3D"color:rgb(=
0,0,10);line-height:18px">&nbsp; Matt Shears</span></div></div><div><br><di=
v>Anyone else?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"=
><font color=3D"#888888"><div>Robin</div></font></span><div><div class=3D"h=
5"><div><br><div><div>On Sep 28, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Rudi Vansnick wrote:</di=
v><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Catchin=
g up my email backlog last-in-first-out (several weeks of low work level du=
e to family issues [health of my mother]) I&rsquo;m checking now the status=
 here and would like to know how many nominations have been received ?&nbsp=
;<div><br></div><div>Rudi Vansnick<br><div>
</div>
<br><div><div>Op 28-sep.-2014, om 22:30 heeft Robin Gross &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[log in to unmask]" target=3D"_blank">[log in to unmask]</a>&gt; het=
 volgende geschreven:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"word=
-wrap:break-word">Last call for nominations for civil society representativ=
es to the Multi-stakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) for next year&#39;s Intern=
et Governance Forum (IGF) - see below announcement. &nbsp;<div><br></div><d=
iv>Let&#39;s get some good people on the IGF MAG to replace the many good o=
nes who are leaving this year.&nbsp; We need more candidates!&nbsp; Nominat=
e before 30 Sept. 2014 for possible endorsement by the Civil Society Coordi=
nation Group.&nbsp; More details below.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you!=
</div><div>Robin<br><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Sep 18, 2014, at 1=
2:32 PM, Robin Gross wrote:</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div style=
=3D"word-wrap:break-word"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;ma=
rgin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:13pt;font-fam=
ily:Calibri;font-size:small"><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font sty=
le=3D"font-size:11pt">This is a call for nominations for civil society repr=
esentatives for the IGF Multistakeholder Advisory group (MAG).</font></font=
></span></p><div style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:10p=
t;margin-left:0cm;line-height:13pt;font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><sp=
an><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt"></font></f=
ont></span>&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-=
size:15px">This nomination process in 2014 will be run across several civil=
 society coalitions, including Best Bits, IGC, APC, Diplo, NCSG, and Just N=
et Coalition, who together comprise the Civil Society Coordination Group. Y=
ou are welcome to nominate through any of the above individual coalitions. =
<b>Nominations close on Tuesday, September 30, 2014</b>.</span></div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt;margin-left:0cm;=
line-height:13pt;font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span><font face=3D"T=
imes New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt"></font></font></span>&nbsp;<=
span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-size:15px">If you =
wish to nominate via the Noncommercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG), or if you =
have been nominated and wish to accept, please do so either on this list or=
 by email sent to me at the address <b><i>Robin (at) ipjustice (dot) org</i=
></b>.</span></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bot=
tom:10pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:13pt;font-family:Calibri;font-size:sma=
ll"><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt"></f=
ont></font></span>&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39=
;;font-size:15px">Please include in your nomination the nominee&rsquo;s nam=
e, country of residence and nationality, and gender. Please also specifical=
ly address each of the selection criteria below, giving us examples and evi=
dence of how the nominee meets each of the individual selection criteria.</=
span></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt=
;margin-left:0cm;line-height:13pt;font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><b><=
span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt"></font><=
/font></span>&nbsp;<span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;fon=
t-size:15px">CRITERIA</span></b></div><div style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-r=
ight:0cm;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:normal;font-family:C=
alibri;font-size:small"><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D=
"font-size:11pt">* Past record of active engagement as part of civil societ=
y groups<br>&nbsp; working on internet governance issues, acting or speakin=
g out assertively<br>on behalf of public interest concerns.<br><br>* Willin=
gness and commitment to consult with and report back to CS networks<br>(inc=
luding beyond those focused on internet governance where appropriate) on<br=
>MAG discussions.&nbsp;<br><br>* Previous attendee at IGF at a global or re=
gional level.<br><br>* Willing, available and able to participate effective=
ly and constructively<br>in the MAG deliberations.</font></font></span></di=
v><div style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt;margin-l=
eft:0cm;line-height:13pt;font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span><font f=
ace=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt"></font></font></span=
>&nbsp;<br></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-top:0cm;margin-righ=
t:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:13pt;font-family:Calib=
ri;font-size:small"><span><font face=3D"Times New Roman"><font style=3D"fon=
t-size:11pt">Existing MAG members seeking CSCG endorsement should also foll=
ow this process.</font></font></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"ma=
rgin-top:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt;margin-left:0cm;line-heigh=
t:13pt;font-family:Calibri;font-size:small"><span><font face=3D"Times New R=
oman"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt">Nominations must close on Tuesday, Sep=
tember 30. The list of candidates endorsed by CSCG will be published no lat=
er than October 16.</font></font></span></p><div style=3D"margin-top:0cm;ma=
rgin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:10pt;margin-left:0cm;line-height:13pt;font-fam=
ily:Calibri;font-size:small"><span style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roma=
n&#39;;font-size:15px">More about the IGF and the MAG can be obtained from&=
nbsp;<a href=3D"http://www.intgovforum.org/" target=3D"_blank">www.intgovfo=
rum.org</a></span></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></bl=
ockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></div></d=
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