cheers Stephanie
[log in to unmask]" type="cite">Thanks Rafik for providing the last audit document. I scanned the "full audit report" from the last iteration. NCSG isn't even on the scorecard. Given the energy and passion in this group, this is an extremely disappointing and discouraging result.among stakeholders representing: government/policymakers, academics, business & commercial interests, journalists, national & international non-government and non-commercial entities and members of the technical communityAmazing that aside from this sentence, non-commercial interests don't appear anywhere in the analysis. Not even to say that a statistically significant sample wasn't obtained. Under "strategic priorities", the consultant recommends "Engaging Stakeholders: regional outside western, cultivate relationships with governments". The "Stakeholder engagement" addendum doesn't mention non-commercial organizations as a category of interest, just some passing references to "Tech community, academics/thought leaders & NGOs". Hardly covering the NCSG constituencies... (And of course, individuals holding domain names are, as usual, completely ignored.) Seems to me that we have a serious problem - if NCSG (or at least, "non-commercial interests") wasn't even worth putting on the scorecard, either a) we just talk to ourselves; or b) the ICANN initiators/funders of the survey don't care; or c) the survey company disregarded its instructions and ICANN didn't notice. Perhaps exacerbated by NCSG members not participating in the survey? In any case, this seems to indicate a strategic failure of NCSG's efforts to be visible and effective... I've taken this year's on-line survey, and it does ask for affiliation - non-commercial is an option. We ought to focus on getting our membership to respond to the survey. And ask some very pointed questions of ourselves and the survey analysts if the resulting report ignores us again. Talking to ourselves may be entertaining, but it isn't productive. Timothe Litt ACM Distinguished Engineer -------------------------- This communication may not represent the ACM or my employer's views, if any, on the matters discussed.