Well done Maria. Positive my lapsus linguae ;-) Have a nice day. Cheers ! -Olevie- 2014-10-13 15:30 GMT+00:00 Maria Farrell <[log in to unmask]>: > Well then it's a good thing I didn't make that mistake and failed to > notice his presence!! :-) > > On 13 October 2014 08:24, Olévié Kouami <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Rudi is an alternate Chair of this PC. It's a mistake to notice his >> presence. >> >> >> 2014-10-13 14:57 GMT+00:00 Rudi Vansnick <[log in to unmask]>: >> >>> Just a small first remark, I, Rudi Vansnick, was also present at the >>> NCSG PC meeting, not that this is the most important issue. And Rafik's >>> name is also missing. >>> >>> Rudi Vansnick >>> Chair Non-for-Profit Operational Concerns Constituency (NPOC) >>> www.npoc.org >>> >>> [log in to unmask] >>> Tel : +32 (0)9 329 39 16 >>> Mobile : +32 (0)475 28 16 32 >>> >>> >>> >>> Op 13-okt.-2014, om 07:47 heeft Maria Farrell <[log in to unmask]> >>> het volgende geschreven: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Many thanks for the great turnout and discussion yesterday. As the GNSO >>> Council agenda was pretty light, we had a useful and informative discussion >>> on some broader topics, which I personally found very helpful - so thanks >>> to everyone. >>> >>> All the best, Maria >>> >>> NCSG PC >>> >>> 12 Oct 2014 >>> >>> >>> Participants: >>> >>> Joy Liddicoat >>> >>> Amr El Sadr >>> >>> Olevie Kouami >>> >>> Carolos Affonso >>> >>> Wendy Seltzer >>> >>> Carlos Guttierez >>> >>> Niels ten Oever >>> >>> Lori Schulman >>> >>> Sam LanFranco >>> >>> Stephanie Perrin >>> >>> Maria Farrell >>> >>> Avri Doria >>> >>> Bill Drake >>> >>> David Cake >>> >>> Robin Gross >>> >>> Milton Mueller >>> >>> Magaly Pazello >>> >>> Klaus Stoll >>> >>> >>> 1 Prep for High Interest Topic SO/AC meeting >>> >>> a. Role of Advisory Committees in ICANN policy-making >>> >>> i. Keep >>> the GAC role in the discussion, even though the agenda has been changed to >>> focus less on the GAC >>> >>> ii. Provide >>> input to the bylaw change public comment period on changing Board voting >>> threshold for rejecting GAC advice >>> >>> iii. Remind >>> people that GAC advice has a much shallower process than GNSO policy >>> >>> iv. Find >>> an opportunity to mention the accepted need for the Human Rights Advisory >>> Committee >>> >>> b. New gTLDs, 2nd round >>> >>> i. Evaluate >>> the first round before the second one begins (need clarity on where that >>> point is) >>> >>> ii. Developing >>> country support and outreach to developing countries - we can say >>> diplomatically 'we told you so' as we were not listened to on these topics >>> and the consequences are clear >>> >>> iii. What >>> are the criteria for success or failure of the round (and programme does >>> not equal success or failure of individual TLDs)? NCSG believes narrowly >>> economic criteria are far too narrow and we will push to develop evaluation >>> criteria that go wider, including the non-commercial and often positive >>> economic implications of commercial TLDs >>> >>> iv. Evaluation >>> should not just focus on who got names or what TLDs there are, and also >>> look at who did NOT apply and why not >>> >>> v. The >>> programme was overly concerned to avoid gaming, which happened anyway, and >>> not concerned with many non-commercial issues >>> >>> vi. The >>> role of the Independent Experts needs to be looked at sharply in the review >>> - they brought little useful or new to the evaluation of specific TLDs >>> >>> vii. We >>> should start evaluating the issues right now, i.e. the problems that have >>> arisen, rather than wait to the end of the process to start looking at them >>> >>> viii. We >>> should propose a Programme Evaluation Framework, i.e. a logic model that >>> looks at what the objectives of the programme were (or should have been) >>> and measuring it up against them. >>> >>> 2 GNSO Council agenda prep >>> >>> a. Voting on resolutions on IRTP(D) and to adopt the charter of >>> the Cross Community Working Group are expected to be largely positive. >>> >>> i. Avri >>> took part in the various IRTP working groups and endorsed the work. >>> >>> ii. Bill, >>> Avri and David gave background of the CCWG charter process and what it >>> might be expected to achieve, and encouraged Council members to vote in >>> favour of it. >>> >>> 3 Maria said as she is finishing her term as a Council >>> member, she will shortly be stepping down as Chair of the NCSG PC and so we >>> will need to start a process to elect a new chair. More on that anon. >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-NCSG mailing list >>> [log in to unmask] >>> http://mailman.ipjustice.org/listinfo/pc-ncsg >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Olévié Ayaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI >> Directeur Général de GiDa-OKtetS (Représentations commerciales et négoces) >> Directeur Exécutif et CEO de l'INTIC4DEV (Institut des TIC pour le >> développement) >> SG de ESTETIC - Association Togolaise des professionnels des TIC ( >> http://www.estetic.tg) >> ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (http://www.icann.org/ et >> http://www.npoc.org/) >> Membre du FOSSFA (www.fossfa.net) et Membre de de Internet Society ( >> www.isoc.org) >> BP : 851 - Tél.: (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72 >> Skype : olevie1 FB : @olivier.kouami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lomé - Togo >> >> > -- Olévié Ayaovi Agbenyo KOUAMI Directeur Général de GiDa-OKtetS (Représentations commerciales et négoces) Directeur Exécutif et CEO de l'INTIC4DEV (Institut des TIC pour le développement) SG de ESTETIC - Association Togolaise des professionnels des TIC ( http://www.estetic.tg) ICANN-NPOC Communications Committee Chair (http://www.icann.org/ et http://www.npoc.org/) Membre du FOSSFA (www.fossfa.net) et Membre de de Internet Society ( www.isoc.org) BP : 851 - Tél.: (228) 90 98 86 50 / (228) 98 43 27 72 Skype : olevie1 FB : @olivier.kouami.3 Twitter : #oleviek Lomé - Togo