Let's say one critic waits out a brand owner's first few moves to buy some of the obvious names with which they are afraid to be criticized with (which is not something I would do right off the bat if I was on of them, mind you, and even if i would be inclined to do it I'd wait for the price to go way down), does anybody know if the critics will be able to know the price he will end up paying *before* he divulge to the .sucks team what is the string he covets? For example, let's say McDonald.sucks is registered by the fast food chain. Do you guys think that the critic will be able to buy thatyellowandredclown.sucks for an eventually specified/advertised price for various alphanumeric strings under .sucks or do you guys think the .sucks strategic pricing will be able to look at his string request and put forth a specific price for the string? Please forgive my ignorance of those domaining details. Nicolas On 16/03/2015 12:56 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: > Hi, > > They’re spinning their sales to brand owners a bit. Making it seem > like this gTLD is (among other things) for them to use for the purpose > of dialogue with their disgruntled consumers. Would be interesting if > dotsucks was ever actually put to use in that way. > > Thanks. > > Amr > > On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I does sound like they are making money on defensive registrations. >> I thought that was frowned upon. >> >> avri >> >> >> On 16-Mar-15 12:32, Carlos A. Afonso wrote: >>> Do we consider this type of scam when some (most?) of us defend absolute >>> freedom for creating new gTLDs? >>> >>> --c.a. >>> >>> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >>> Subject: [ PFIR ] Extortion runs wild on .sucks gTLD >>> Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:28:08 -0700 >>> From: PFIR (People For Internet Responsibility) Announcement List >>> <[log in to unmask]> >>> Reply-To: PFIR (People For Internet Responsibility) Announcement List >>> <[log in to unmask]> >>> To:[log in to unmask] >>> >>> Extortion runs wild on .sucks gTLD >>> >>> ".sucks" registrations begin soon--at up to $2,500 per domain >>> >>> (Ars): >>> http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/sucks-tld-to-accept-sunrise-registrations-soon-but-theyll-be-pricey/ >>> >>> The number of generic top-level domains (gTLDs) available for use has >>> climbed into the hundreds, and ".sucks" will soon be added to the >>> list. However, angry customers eager to get their hands on >>> brand-specific domains like "bestbuy.sucks" or "comcast.sucks" >>> shouldn't get their hopes up; according to MarketingLand, the domains >>> will cost far more than most consumers will want to pay. The pricing >>> situation around .sucks domain names is complicated. Companies with >>> registered trademarks will have to pay an astounding $2,499 to >>> register their trademarked names in .sucks. Registration of >>> non-trademarked names during the "sunrise" period (March 30 until June >>> 1) before .sucks goes live will cost at least $199 per name, while the >>> standard registration fee after June 1 rises to $249 per name. >>> >>> Companies are typically hyper-sensitive about brand usage, and >>> few will want their .sucks domains under someone else's control. >>> The .sucks pricing scheme has led to outrage from many quarters, >>> with MarketingLand's writeup quoting several industry figures who >>> use words like "extortion" and "predatory." >>> >>> - - - >>> >>> This is one of the best examples I know of demonstrating how the gTLD >>> expansion has turned into one giant extortion scheme for the >>> enrichment of "domainers" and the rest of the domain-industrial >>> complex -- and to the detriment of the Net at large. As far as the >>> overwhelmingly vast majority of new gTLDs is concerned, I've seen >>> nothing from them but spam and phishing attempts, and I block them >>> from my networks with zero sense of shame and without any obvious >>> detrimental effects here. Personally, I recommend that you do the >>> same. >>> >>> --Lauren-- >>> Lauren Weinstein ([log in to unmask]):http://www.vortex.com/lauren >>> Founder: >>> - Network Neutrality Squad:http://www.nnsquad.org >>> - PRIVACY Forum:http://www.vortex.com/privacy-info >>> Co-Founder: People For Internet Responsibility: >>> http://www.pfir.org/pfir-info >>> Member: ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy >>> Lauren's Blog:http://lauren.vortex.com >>> Google+:http://google.com/+LaurenWeinstein >>> Twitter:http://twitter.com/laurenweinstein >>> Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 / Skype:vortex.com <http://vortex.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pfir mailing list >>> http://lists.pfir.org/mailman/listinfo/pfir >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> <http://www.avast.com/> >> >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> www.avast.com <http://www.avast.com/> >> >> >