Let's say one critic waits out a brand owner's first few moves to buy some of the obvious names with which they are afraid to be criticized with (which is not something I would do right off the bat if I was on of them, mind you, and even if i would be inclined to do it I'd wait for the price to go way down), does anybody know if the critics will be able to know the price he will end up paying before he divulge to the .sucks team what is the string he covets?

For example, let's say McDonald.sucks is registered by the fast food chain. Do you guys think that the critic will be able to buy thatyellowandredclown.sucks for an eventually specified/advertised price for various alphanumeric strings under .sucks or do you guys think the .sucks strategic pricing will be able to look at his string request and put forth a specific price for the string?

Please forgive my ignorance of those domaining details.

Nicolas

On 16/03/2015 12:56 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote:
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Hi,

They’re spinning their sales to brand owners a bit. Making it seem like this gTLD is (among other things) for them to use for the purpose of dialogue with their disgruntled consumers. Would be interesting if dotsucks was ever actually put to use in that way.

Thanks.

Amr

On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hi,

I does sound like they are making money on defensive registrations.  I thought that was frowned upon.

avri


On 16-Mar-15 12:32, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
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Do we consider this type of scam when some (most?) of us defend absolute
freedom for creating new gTLDs?

--c.a.

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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 08:28:08 -0700
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Extortion runs wild on .sucks gTLD

".sucks" registrations begin soon--at up to $2,500 per domain

(Ars):
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/03/sucks-tld-to-accept-sunrise-registrations-soon-but-theyll-be-pricey/

     The number of generic top-level domains (gTLDs) available for use has
     climbed into the hundreds, and ".sucks" will soon be added to the
     list. However, angry customers eager to get their hands on
     brand-specific domains like "bestbuy.sucks" or "comcast.sucks"
     shouldn't get their hopes up; according to MarketingLand, the domains
     will cost far more than most consumers will want to pay.  The pricing
     situation around .sucks domain names is complicated. Companies with
     registered trademarks will have to pay an astounding $2,499 to
     register their trademarked names in .sucks. Registration of
     non-trademarked names during the "sunrise" period (March 30 until June
     1) before .sucks goes live will cost at least $199 per name, while the
     standard registration fee after June 1 rises to $249 per name.

     Companies are typically hyper-sensitive about brand usage, and
     few will want their .sucks domains under someone else's control.
     The .sucks pricing scheme has led to outrage from many quarters,
     with MarketingLand's writeup quoting several industry figures who
     use words like "extortion" and "predatory."

 - - -

This is one of the best examples I know of demonstrating how the gTLD
expansion has turned into one giant extortion scheme for the
enrichment of "domainers" and the rest of the domain-industrial
complex -- and to the detriment of the Net at large. As far as the
overwhelmingly vast majority of new gTLDs is concerned, I've seen
nothing from them but spam and phishing attempts, and I block them
from my networks with zero sense of shame and without any obvious
detrimental effects here. Personally, I recommend that you do the
same.

--Lauren--
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