Hi Rafik,



She is trying to work on how to communicate and message better the several announcements and info we got in regular basis to avoid overload but also to reach better members. Sharing such video can be understood as possible source of information about the IANA stewardship transition same like the update made by ICANN staff I shared yesterday. I don't see any malign intention here. 

For the record, malign intent was not alleged. It's the principle of staff members posting substantive content to the members list that I have difficulty with. If yourself or a member wants to share information or a link that's great. Editorial content, in that case, rests with the member. If an NCSG member posted the link, fantastic. Posting substantive editorial content, in this case a link to Fadi's best attempt at a fireside chat (sans fire), should not be a staff function.

let's focus.


This is an important issue. In accountability we often talk of ICANN's mission creep. Well, this issue highlights an important issue that is somewhat similar, that of the NCSG's independence from ICANN. I guess I would call it ICANN reliance creep.

Those who are new to the group might not be aware,  but it was a big step for NCSG to accept the ICANN staff assistance that is now being provided. At the time, I was opposed to accepting it as were several members of far longer standing and greater stature than I. It was sold to us then as the support being provided being purely administrative in nature. That, indeed, was understandable and, although opposed in principle, I understood the rationale.

In my view this goes far beyond that. This is a staff member suggesting we take a look at a video made by her employer. This goes beyond administrative support and I submit ventures into  areas that should be reserved for members. Is it a major issue in and of itself?: no, but it's another step on the slippery slope away from the independence this group has always prided itself on. 


Best,

Rafik 

2015-05-19 15:32 GMT+09:00 Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]>:
Hi,

I very much disagree.  It is her job to relay to the list any and all
posted information that might be of interest to the SG.  It is not her
job to decide whether something is or is not propaganda - to some extent
it is all propoganda-ish.

I am grateful to her for having sent us the information.

avri


On 19-May-15 08:00, Edward Morris wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I'm posting this to the PC list as the policy arm of the NCSG.
>
> The following email from Maryam made me a bit uneasy. It's not just
> the possibility of recurring nightmares from viewing once again the
> 'Fadi hands' video. :) Rather I don't feel it is appropriate for an
> ICANN staff member to use his or her posting privileges on the members
> list to disseminate what I would consider ICANN propaganda.
>
> It's perfectly fine for a member to post such a link and often we do.
> I just think having staff do the same opens a path I'd prefer not to
> go down. Nonmembers, obviously, do not have the right to post on the
> members list and I'd suggest that staff posting rights be limited to
> administrative matters unless directed otherwise by the Chair / EC or
> in response to a members question or request. It's protection not only
> for the independence of the NCSG that concerns me, it's for protection
> of the staff as well. I don't want the staff member(s) involved to be
> open to pressure from ICANN corporate to get certain approved
> perspectives out to our members. That's not their role, not how their
> job performance should be measured, and not why they have been allowed
> posting privileges on the members list. IMHO It's just not good practice.
>
> Best,
>
> Ed
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 18, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Maryam Bakoshi <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Please find below link of video message from ICANN President, Fadi
>> Chehade, following posting of the draft proposals for public comment
>> by the Cross Community Working Groups to Develop an IANA Stewardship
>> Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions (CWG-Stewardship) &
>> on Enhancing ICANN Accountability (CCWG-Accountability).
>>
>> Video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMusmAcQpu0&feature=youtu.be
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> --
>>
>> Maryam Bakoshi
>>
>> Secretariat ­Support - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>


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