I had no issue either with Maryam passing on a link to the video. Maria On 19 May 2015 at 08:57, Joy Liddicoat <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Yes - thanks for raising this Ed but I think this is fine and have no > issue with it. > Cheers > > Joy > > -----Original Message----- > From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Avri Doria > Sent: Tuesday, 19 May 2015 7:01 p.m. > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Video: A Community Message from Fadi Chehad� > > Hi, > > ah well, yet another opportunity to agree to disagree. > > avri > > > On 19-May-15 08:52, Edward Morris wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > >> I very much disagree. It is her job to relay to the list any and all > >> posted information that might be of interest to the SG. > > I wasn't aware of that. I felt staff support was intended to relieve > volunteers of administrative chores. I wasn't aware it entailed > non-administrative content and editorial submissions. > > > > > >> It is not her > >> job to decide whether something is or is not propaganda - to some > >> extent it is all propoganda-ish. > > Disagree. For example, notification of meeting times and methods is not > propaganda. It is administrative in nature. Nowhere is it claimed that it > was anyone's job to determine whether something was propaganda. However, > once staff starts to submit non-administrative content to the list he or > she assumes some editorial control over substantive content. IMHO it is not > appropriate for staff members to do this on the members list, a list BTW we > have purposely kept on non-ICANN servers, in part, in order to maintain our > independence. > > > > Ed > > > >> > >> > >>> On 19-May-15 08:00, Edward Morris wrote: > >>> Hi everybody, > >>> > >>> I'm posting this to the PC list as the policy arm of the NCSG. > >>> > >>> The following email from Maryam made me a bit uneasy. It's not just > >>> the possibility of recurring nightmares from viewing once again the > >>> 'Fadi hands' video. :) Rather I don't feel it is appropriate for an > >>> ICANN staff member to use his or her posting privileges on the > >>> members list to disseminate what I would consider ICANN propaganda. > >>> > >>> It's perfectly fine for a member to post such a link and often we do. > >>> I just think having staff do the same opens a path I'd prefer not to > >>> go down. Nonmembers, obviously, do not have the right to post on the > >>> members list and I'd suggest that staff posting rights be limited to > >>> administrative matters unless directed otherwise by the Chair / EC > >>> or in response to a members question or request. It's protection not > >>> only for the independence of the NCSG that concerns me, it's for > >>> protection of the staff as well. I don't want the staff member(s) > >>> involved to be open to pressure from ICANN corporate to get certain > >>> approved perspectives out to our members. That's not their role, not > >>> how their job performance should be measured, and not why they have > >>> been allowed posting privileges on the members list. IMHO It's just > not good practice. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Ed > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> On May 18, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Maryam Bakoshi > >>> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear All, > >>>> > >>>> Please find below link of video message from ICANN President, Fadi > >>>> Chehade, following posting of the draft proposals for public > >>>> comment by the Cross Community Working Groups to Develop an IANA > >>>> Stewardship Transition Proposal on Naming Related Functions > >>>> (CWG-Stewardship) & on Enhancing ICANN Accountability > (CCWG-Accountability). > >>>> > >>>> Video link: > >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMusmAcQpu0&feature=youtu.be > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Many thanks, > >>>> -- > >>>> > >>>> Maryam Bakoshi > >>>> > >>>> Secretariat Support - NCSG, NCUC, NPOC > >>>> > >>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Email: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > >>>> > >>>> Mobile: +44 7737 698036 > >>>> > >>>> Skype: maryam.bakoshi.icann > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > >> http://www.avast.com > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com >