At 07:17 AM 5/5/2015, Brenden Kuerbis wrote:
Hi, David,
[SNIP]
On this point, please see the recently released Cross Community Working
Group (CCWG) Accountability Initial Draft Proposal for Public Comment,Â
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cwg-accountability-draft-proposal-with-annexes-04may15-en.pdf
Would you agree that the proposed update to ICANN's Mission Statement (pg
15) which limits ICANN scope, in conjunction with proposed community
empowerment mechanisms address this concern adequately?
Brenden
The Mission Statement changes do go a long way to addressing this concern
- so the question becomes: will it actually serve as an effective
constraint on ICANN's powers, or, Soviet constitution-style, just a bunch
of nice words?
It's a little too early, for me, to say whether the proposed community
empowerment mechanisms will do the job adequately; the devil really is in
the details, and a lot - everything, actually - depends on how those
details get fleshed out. The proposal has a lot of good things in
it - the enhanced Independent Review Panel, recall mechanisms for
Directors, community power over the budget - and is a good step forward,
in my view; but there are lots of substantial gaps and open questions
about how it all will actually work [No criticism at all of the many
folks who worked on this is intended, but just as a statement of fact].
There's a fine line between, say, an IRP that is effective and one that
isn't (as the last 15 years have shown), so I guess I'm not ready to say
it's been adequately addressed quite yet.
David
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On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 2:49 PM, David Post
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- [Apologies for cross-posting]
- This really is starting to look, as Milton said, ominous - coupled
with the pressure being placed upon ICANN to regulate message content,
see
-
http://www.internetcommerce.org/senate-judiciary-to-ip-czar/
- my take on this is here:
-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/04/internet-governance-what-if-the-sky-really-is-falling/
- If the final proposal does not have real safeguards against ICANN's
content-regulation powers, we're all in trouble.
On this point, please see the recently released Cross Community Working
Group (CCWG) Accountability Initial Draft Proposal for Public Comment,Â
https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/cwg-accountability-draft-proposal-with-annexes-04may15-en.pdf
Would you agree that the proposed update to ICANN's Mission Statement (pg
15) which limits ICANN scope, in conjunction with proposed community
empowerment mechanisms address this concern adequately?
Â
- And I am starting to wonder whether the USG is interested in making
sure those safeguards are in place, or, as suggested in the above, making
sure that they're NOT in place. . . .
I agree there will continue to be pressure put on ICANN by IP
rightsholders interests, using any available route. But if the above is
adopted it seems it would go a long way toward mitigating that
pressure.
-- Brenden
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- David
- At 09:27 AM 4/30/2015, Milton L Mueller wrote:
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- Dear NCSG:
- It’s now official: ICANN doesn’t even want to let the IETF have a
choice of its IANA functions operator.
- Â
- Those of you who read my
blog post on ICANN’s interactions with the numbers community will
already know that ICANN is refusing to accept the consensus of the
numbers community by recognizing its contractual right to terminate its
IANA functions operator agreement with ICANN. In that blog, I referred to
second-hand reports that IETF was encountering similar problems with
ICANN. Those reports are now public; the chairs of the IETF, IAB and IETF
Administrative Oversight Committee have
sent a letter to their community noting that ICANN is refusing to
renew their supplemental service level agreement because it includes new
provisions designed to facilitate change in IANA functions operators
should IETF become dissatisfied with ICANN.
- Â
- These are truly shocking moves, because in effect ICANN’s legal
staff is telling both the numbers and the protocols communities that they
will not accept the proposals for the IANA transition that they have
developed as part of the IANA Stewardship Coordination Group (ICG)
process. In both cases, the proposals were consensus proposals within the
affected communities, and were approved by the ICG as complete and
conformant to the NTIA criteria. Thus, ICANN is in effect usurping the
entire process, setting itself (rather than ICG and NTIA) as the arbiter
of what is an acceptable transition proposal.
- Â
- The key point of conflict here seems to be the issue of whether ICANN
will have a permanent monopoly on the provision of IANA functions, or
whether each of the affected communities – names, numbers and protoocols
– will have the right to choose the operator of their global registries.
Separability is explicitly recognized by the Cross community working
group on Names as a principle to guide the transition, and was also
listed as a requirement by the CRISP team. And the IETF has had an
agreement with ICANN giving them separability since 2000
(RFC 2860). Yet
despite the wishes of the community, ICANN seems to insist on a monopoly
and seems to be exploiting the transition process to get one.
- Â
- Of course, a severable contract for the IANA functions is the most
effective and important form of accountability. If the users of IANA are
locked in to a single provider, it is more difficult to keep the IANA
responsive, efficient and accountable. Given the implications of these
actions for the accountability CCWG, I hope someone on that list will
forward this message to their list, if someone has not noted this event
already.Â
- Â
- Milton L Mueller
- Laura J. and L. Douglas Meredith Professor
- Syracuse University School of Information Studies
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http://faculty.ischool.syr.edu/mueller/
- Internet Governance Project
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http://internetgovernance.org
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