On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Avri Doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> However, I do not care that there are 5 votes, that is a different
> issue.  I personally preferred that each of the ACSO get 3 votes to
> split up anyway they wanted. I wanted to keep it small. What I care
> about is that in the application of powers, AC s and SOs should be on an
> equal footing.  I know that not everone belives in the theory of equal
> footing.  I am dedicated to it.
>

+1000

Thanks for stating very clearly what you are dedicated upon, i share such
dedication as well and i hope others will develop such mindset.

Regards



>
> The 5 powers have nothing to do with gTLDs.  One could ask why the GNSO
> should have a say on anything not to do with gTLDs. All things gTLD and
> only things gTLD are within their tightly defined mission.  That is not,
> however, my issue.  What I have an issue on is that in an system
> architecture that has a balance of different perspectives, these sorts
> of powers should be on an equal footing and that it is inappropriate for
> one group to look at another and say they are less important that us.
> Some argue that I carry this egalitarian ethic too far, but as far as I
> can tell, ICANN needs it in order to be able to do the right thing.
>
> The argument that this decreases GNSO power is hard to understand.  What
> power does the GNSO have now in the area of 5 powers? The only time we
> have power is when we all work together - we have seen that several
> times this year.  The powers are about the community working together to
> overrule the board.  The community cannot work together if one group
> deems other groups as less important than themselves.
>
> So as I say, good topic for discussion.
>
> avri
>
>
>
> On 12-Aug-15 07:50, William Drake wrote:
> > Really useful piece from Brenden, really working problem to fix.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >> On Aug 12, 2015, at 3:25 AM, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask]
> >> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Excellent analysis from Brenden on one key flaw in the CCWG
> >> Accountability's existing proposal - how the proposed SOAC "voting
> >> weights" empowers some parts of the ICANN community (ACs) while
> >> disempowering others (including the GNSO) as compared to the existing
> >> balance of power in ICANN's structure.  So this is one gaping hole we
> >> need to fix in the draft proposal, which otherwise has recommended
> >> some significant improvements (like the Independent Review process
> >> and Reconsideration Request process).
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Robin
> >>
> >> On Aug 11, 2015, at 11:20 AM, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dr. Brenden Kuerbis of IGP has developed a very important analysis
> >>> of the CCWG’s proposed voting distribution model, which we need to
> >>> take into account when developing our comments.
> >>> Read it
> >>> here:
> http://www.internetgovernance.org/2015/08/11/ccwg-community-mechanism-threatens-to-upset-icann-balance/#comment-40415
> >>>
> >>> Dr. Milton L. Mueller
> >>> Professor, School of Public Policy
> >>> Georgia Institute of Technology
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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