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> On Nov 3, 2015, at 2:47 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Karel,
> 
> Please reconsider. Note that there are two positions to be
> filled in SCI, primary and alternate, and if Stefania moves
> from alternate to primary, it still leaves alternate free
> for new volunteers such as yourself.
> 
> Also, while I indicated I'd be willing to take the alternate
> myself, it's not like I need more work, so I'd be only happy
> to spread the load and have someone active like you there.
> I'll be keeping close contact with our SCI representatives
> anyway, I don't need to be there myself.
> 
> In general it's also better to have too many volunteers
> than too few. I would encourage all who think themselves
> able and willing to throw their hat in the ring and give
> the Policy Committee the rare luxury of having several
> good candidates to choose from.
> 
> Tapani
> 
> 
> On Nov 02 16:36, Karel Douglas ([log in to unmask]) wrote:
> 
>> All ,
>> 
>> In light of Stefania's email where she indicated that she had
>> already telegraphed her interest to the Committee , and in the spirit of
>> consensus in the community I would respectfully withdraw my "candidacy" as
>> a volunteer.
>> 
>> Best regards
>> 
>> Karel DOUGLAS
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:07 PM, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think Stefania as a new councillor would get a double dose of value for
>>> us in this position.
>>> 
>>> -James
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 02/11/2015, 5:03 p.m., "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of "Kleinwächter,
>>> Wolfgang"" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 1+ for Stefania
>>>> 
>>>> wolfgang
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: NCSG-Discuss im Auftrag von Milan, Stefania
>>>> Gesendet: Mo 02.11.2015 13:41
>>>> An: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Betreff: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Call for volunteers: New SCI representative &
>>> alternate
>>>> 
>>>> Dear all
>>>> 
>>>> I have already made my availability known to the NCSG Policy Committee
>>> but forgot to do so on this list.
>>>> 
>>>> I believe serving on SCI would be particularly helpful in view of my
>>> recent election to the GNSO Council.
>>>> 
>>>> Best, Stefania
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> Da: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]> per conto di Karel
>>> Douglas <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Inviato: lunedì 2 novembre 2015 13.36
>>>> A: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Oggetto: Re: Call for volunteers: New SCI representative & alternate
>>>> 
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have read up on some of the documents and browsed the SCI site with the
>>> current work up for consideration, previous work done in 2014, 2013 , etc
>>> and would be happy to volunteer as an alternate.
>>>> 
>>>> I hoping that my legal training and experience in corporate governance
>>> would benefit the SCI.
>>>> 
>>>> kind regards
>>>> 
>>>> Karel DOUGLAS
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Karel Douglas <[log in to unmask]
>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>> WOW...that was fast!  :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks AMR for your very comprehensive and detailed reply. Yes - your
>>> answer has helped!
>>>> 
>>>> I will certainly do some reading up on the SCI charter and take a look at
>>> the public record of the work done to date by the SCI.
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks buddy!
>>>> 
>>>> kind regards
>>>> 
>>>> Karel
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Amr Elsadr <[log in to unmask]<mailto:
>>> [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Karel,
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Karel Douglas <[log in to unmask]
>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Avri et al
>>>>> 
>>>>> Avri - blunt and to the point is always appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As a newbie I have a couple brief questions which are flying around my
>>> head :
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) how often does the SCI meet to discuss changes to the documents?
>>>> 
>>>> Usually once every two weeks for one hour as long as there are ongoing
>>> projects the SCI is working on. When there are projects, most of the work
>>> (as is the case with all groups) takes place offline and over email. In the
>>> past, temporary sub-teams have also been set up to work intensively on
>>> something, before review by the full committee.
>>>> 
>>>>> (2) how do suggested amendments / improvements get to the SCI...are
>>> improvements generated by regular internal review in the SCI or are
>>> suggested changes transmitted by GNSO / NCUC / NPOC to the SCI for review
>>> ,report and recommendation?
>>>> 
>>>> The SCI has the discretion to suggest initiation of work on a certain
>>> topic, but this needs to be communicated to the GNSO Council. Normally, it
>>> is the Council that passes on questions/puzzles to the SCI, and ask the
>>> committee to have some fun with it.
>>>> 
>>>> In the recent past, there was an attempt by a GNSO constituency to
>>> directly request the SCI to take up a project, but this was deemed as
>>> outside the normal process. If (for example) NCUC or NPOC want the SCI to
>>> review something, they would need to advise their representatives on the
>>> GNSO Council, and ask them to take it up with the full council first.
>>>> 
>>>>> (3) How are suggested changes eventually made? Is it unilaterally or
>>> does it come back for approval of the GNSO EC and /or membership.
>>>> 
>>>> The SCI needs to achieve full consensus on any recommended changes it
>>> makes to the GNSO operating procedures. Before forwarding its
>>> recommendations to the council, a public comment period needs to be held,
>>> then finally a motion and a vote on the GNSO council for the GNSO to adopt
>>> the recommended changes. If ICANN bylaws need to be amended for any
>>> reasons, the ICANN board will need to hold a public comment period of its
>>> own, and have its own resolution to adopt changes.
>>>> 
>>>>> Even if I don't put my hat in the ring I would love to hear more about
>>> the SCI. I guess there is an SCI operating procedures manual lying around
>>> somewhere which speak to these matters. Maybe you could provide a link to
>>> it.Many thanks
>>>> 
>>>> Here is a link to the SCI's charter:
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/2.+Charter. There is also a
>>> public record of all the work done by the SCI on its wiki page, so take
>>> time to browse through it, if you're interested.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Amr