+1 Go Karel go! Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez _____________________ email: [log in to unmask] Skype: carlos.raulg +506 8837 7176 (cel) +506 4000 2000 (home) +506 2290 3678 (fax) _____________________ Apartado 1571-1000 San Jose, COSTA RICA > On Nov 3, 2015, at 2:47 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Karel, > > Please reconsider. Note that there are two positions to be > filled in SCI, primary and alternate, and if Stefania moves > from alternate to primary, it still leaves alternate free > for new volunteers such as yourself. > > Also, while I indicated I'd be willing to take the alternate > myself, it's not like I need more work, so I'd be only happy > to spread the load and have someone active like you there. > I'll be keeping close contact with our SCI representatives > anyway, I don't need to be there myself. > > In general it's also better to have too many volunteers > than too few. I would encourage all who think themselves > able and willing to throw their hat in the ring and give > the Policy Committee the rare luxury of having several > good candidates to choose from. > > Tapani > > > On Nov 02 16:36, Karel Douglas ([log in to unmask]) wrote: > >> All , >> >> In light of Stefania's email where she indicated that she had >> already telegraphed her interest to the Committee , and in the spirit of >> consensus in the community I would respectfully withdraw my "candidacy" as >> a volunteer. >> >> Best regards >> >> Karel DOUGLAS >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:07 PM, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> I think Stefania as a new councillor would get a double dose of value for >>> us in this position. >>> >>> -James >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 02/11/2015, 5:03 p.m., "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of "Kleinwächter, >>> Wolfgang"" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> 1+ for Stefania >>>> >>>> wolfgang >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>> Von: NCSG-Discuss im Auftrag von Milan, Stefania >>>> Gesendet: Mo 02.11.2015 13:41 >>>> An: [log in to unmask] >>>> Betreff: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Call for volunteers: New SCI representative & >>> alternate >>>> >>>> Dear all >>>> >>>> I have already made my availability known to the NCSG Policy Committee >>> but forgot to do so on this list. >>>> >>>> I believe serving on SCI would be particularly helpful in view of my >>> recent election to the GNSO Council. >>>> >>>> Best, Stefania >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> Da: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask]> per conto di Karel >>> Douglas <[log in to unmask]> >>>> Inviato: lunedì 2 novembre 2015 13.36 >>>> A: [log in to unmask] >>>> Oggetto: Re: Call for volunteers: New SCI representative & alternate >>>> >>>> Dear All, >>>> >>>> I have read up on some of the documents and browsed the SCI site with the >>> current work up for consideration, previous work done in 2014, 2013 , etc >>> and would be happy to volunteer as an alternate. >>>> >>>> I hoping that my legal training and experience in corporate governance >>> would benefit the SCI. >>>> >>>> kind regards >>>> >>>> Karel DOUGLAS >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Karel Douglas <[log in to unmask] >>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>> WOW...that was fast! :-) >>>> >>>> Thanks AMR for your very comprehensive and detailed reply. Yes - your >>> answer has helped! >>>> >>>> I will certainly do some reading up on the SCI charter and take a look at >>> the public record of the work done to date by the SCI. >>>> >>>> Many thanks buddy! >>>> >>>> kind regards >>>> >>>> Karel >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Amr Elsadr <[log in to unmask]<mailto: >>> [log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>> Hi Karel, >>>> >>>>> On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:35 PM, Karel Douglas <[log in to unmask] >>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Avri et al >>>>> >>>>> Avri - blunt and to the point is always appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> As a newbie I have a couple brief questions which are flying around my >>> head : >>>>> >>>>> (1) how often does the SCI meet to discuss changes to the documents? >>>> >>>> Usually once every two weeks for one hour as long as there are ongoing >>> projects the SCI is working on. When there are projects, most of the work >>> (as is the case with all groups) takes place offline and over email. In the >>> past, temporary sub-teams have also been set up to work intensively on >>> something, before review by the full committee. >>>> >>>>> (2) how do suggested amendments / improvements get to the SCI...are >>> improvements generated by regular internal review in the SCI or are >>> suggested changes transmitted by GNSO / NCUC / NPOC to the SCI for review >>> ,report and recommendation? >>>> >>>> The SCI has the discretion to suggest initiation of work on a certain >>> topic, but this needs to be communicated to the GNSO Council. Normally, it >>> is the Council that passes on questions/puzzles to the SCI, and ask the >>> committee to have some fun with it. >>>> >>>> In the recent past, there was an attempt by a GNSO constituency to >>> directly request the SCI to take up a project, but this was deemed as >>> outside the normal process. If (for example) NCUC or NPOC want the SCI to >>> review something, they would need to advise their representatives on the >>> GNSO Council, and ask them to take it up with the full council first. >>>> >>>>> (3) How are suggested changes eventually made? Is it unilaterally or >>> does it come back for approval of the GNSO EC and /or membership. >>>> >>>> The SCI needs to achieve full consensus on any recommended changes it >>> makes to the GNSO operating procedures. Before forwarding its >>> recommendations to the council, a public comment period needs to be held, >>> then finally a motion and a vote on the GNSO council for the GNSO to adopt >>> the recommended changes. If ICANN bylaws need to be amended for any >>> reasons, the ICANN board will need to hold a public comment period of its >>> own, and have its own resolution to adopt changes. >>>> >>>>> Even if I don't put my hat in the ring I would love to hear more about >>> the SCI. I guess there is an SCI operating procedures manual lying around >>> somewhere which speak to these matters. Maybe you could provide a link to >>> it.Many thanks >>>> >>>> Here is a link to the SCI's charter: >>> https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosci/2.+Charter. There is also a >>> public record of all the work done by the SCI on its wiki page, so take >>> time to browse through it, if you're interested. >>>> >>>> I hope this helps. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Amr