All, sorry for the typos in my previous email :) of course I meant ICANN *staff*, not stuff :) seems that my phone just got mad with autocorrect and I better to proofread emails before pressing the "send" button :) Cheers Tanya On 29 February 2016 at 11:39, Tatiana Tropina <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi all, > I do agree with Niels. We are supposed to be a "vocal" point on HR but > without a broader engagement of the community and a proper and constructive > communications with ICANN staff and ICANN board our "voices" will be > marginalised. Many misunderstanding during the HR fights CCWG could have > been avoided if there were a proper communication with the board (no, I am > not a stupid optimist, this is reality, it took time to convince the board > but we made it. We could have made it earlier if there were a proper > engagement). > One of the priorities for addressing human rights issues in WS2 will be, > in my opinion, to establish the constructive dialogue with the ICANN > board/stuff as early as possible to avoid the last-minute fights and > unhappy compromises. > Cheers > Tanya > > > On 29 February 2016 at 11:17, Niels ten Oever <[log in to unmask] > > wrote: > >> But we want someone in staff who is working on this, right? That is what >> the previous report of the CCWP HR was about [0]. This cannot and should >> not be done either ONLY by the board, ONLY by staff, or ONLY by the >> community. >> >> Whereas we've been having success on board engagement (after the >> questions of last time), we will need to work more with staff, >> henceforth this question. >> >> Best, >> >> Niels >> >> [0] http://icannhumanrights.net >> >> >> On 02/29/2016 04:39 AM, Stephanie Perrin wrote: >> > +1 >> > this would be my worst nightmare.... >> > Stephanie Perrin >> > On 2016-02-28 22:32, Mueller, Milton L wrote: >> >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> - Will there be dedicated ICANN staff working on the development of a >> >>> human >> >>> rights policy who could also function as a vocal point on human >> rights? >> >> Be careful with this. WE are supposed to be the vocal point on human >> >> rights, don't let that function be taken over by an ICANN staff person. >> >> >> >> -- >> Niels ten Oever >> Head of Digital >> >> Article 19 >> www.article19.org >> >> PGP fingerprint 8D9F C567 BEE4 A431 56C4 >> 678B 08B5 A0F2 636D 68E9 >> > >