Hi Seun,

To clarify, that is definitely not what I meant. I was simply thinking out
loud. On the contrary, I think by excluding governments it undermines the
MS process since, indeed, governments are stakeholders too.

As far as the other two points, James already clarified as well.

Best,
-Michael


On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]>
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> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Michael Oghia <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ayden,
>>
>> You raise good points. At first thought, the simplest way to answer that
>> is by stressing how the NTIA is still *involved *in the policy judgments
>> via the GAC as well as by contributing to the PDP when appropriate even if
>> it is not *overseeing *it.
>>
>
> NTIA (representing USA) is a member of GAC and GAC is part of the
> community, thats the reason why they participate in Policy, and their
> influence on PDP will be as far as GAC agrees, as far as the rest of the
> ICANN community agree with GAC and as far board agrees. However, that
> function.....
>
> Simply by being present and actively following the proceedings may suffice
>> as oversight.
>>
>
> ....should not be mistaken with their stewardship role as they are 2
> different things. When stewardship is gone, their role in GAC continues.
>
>
>> Yet another idea is that by constantly being present, even if NTIA
>> officials are silent or in the background, it serves as a reminder to other
>> governments or to the community at large -- a soft power of sorts.
>>
>
> I hope you are not suggesting that governments should not participate or
> share their view on ICANN policy, as i think that will be a bad idea;
> governments are part of the MS community and the PDP is based on
> contributions from the MS community. We should be accommodating if we
> really want to put the MS into real practice.
>
> Regards
>
>>
>> Then again, I could be wrong. Thoughts?
>>
>> Best,
>> -Michael
>> __________________
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing this, James.
>>>
>>> I'm a little surprised that Strickling would note on the record, even if
>>> true, that “we don’t provide any oversight of the policy judgments that
>>> ICANN and the multistakeholder community make”. If I was on the Senate
>>> Committee, I might wonder just what the NTIA had been doing and why they
>>> were traveling around the world on the taxpayers' dime if they have no
>>> sway?
>>>
>>> That being said, Strickling did offer a brilliant and succinct
>>> explanation of why the transition not proceeding would harm Internet
>>> freedom. Good to be reminded of why the transition matters.
>>>
>>> Ayden
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 8:23 AM, William Drake [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>
>>>> A memorable performance
>>>>
>>>> On May 26, 2016, at 09:05, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Just came across this again this morning, a poignant reminder of why we
>>>> are all here and what we have been working for over the past 2 years. And
>>>> why we shouldn’t stumble at the finish line.
>>>> In defence of the IANA Stewardship Transition…
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIrs8n5Q7Yo
>>>>
>>>> -James
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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