Hats off to Larry...

Surprising that was one of the most succinct explanations of the "why" for
the IANA transitions I've heard. That speech could be a starting point for
people trying to understand the IANA transition.

regards

Karel

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Michael Oghia <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi Seun,
>
> To clarify, that is definitely not what I meant. I was simply thinking out
> loud. On the contrary, I think by excluding governments it undermines the
> MS process since, indeed, governments are stakeholders too.
>
> As far as the other two points, James already clarified as well.
>
> Best,
> -Michael
>
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Michael Oghia <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ayden,
>>>
>>> You raise good points. At first thought, the simplest way to answer that
>>> is by stressing how the NTIA is still *involved *in the policy
>>> judgments via the GAC as well as by contributing to the PDP when
>>> appropriate even if it is not *overseeing *it.
>>>
>>
>> NTIA (representing USA) is a member of GAC and GAC is part of the
>> community, thats the reason why they participate in Policy, and their
>> influence on PDP will be as far as GAC agrees, as far as the rest of the
>> ICANN community agree with GAC and as far board agrees. However, that
>> function.....
>>
>> Simply by being present and actively following the proceedings may
>>> suffice as oversight.
>>>
>>
>> ....should not be mistaken with their stewardship role as they are 2
>> different things. When stewardship is gone, their role in GAC continues.
>>
>>
>>> Yet another idea is that by constantly being present, even if NTIA
>>> officials are silent or in the background, it serves as a reminder to other
>>> governments or to the community at large -- a soft power of sorts.
>>>
>>
>> I hope you are not suggesting that governments should not participate or
>> share their view on ICANN policy, as i think that will be a bad idea;
>> governments are part of the MS community and the PDP is based on
>> contributions from the MS community. We should be accommodating if we
>> really want to put the MS into real practice.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>>
>>> Then again, I could be wrong. Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Michael
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>>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing this, James.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a little surprised that Strickling would note on the record, even
>>>> if true, that “we don’t provide any oversight of the policy judgments that
>>>> ICANN and the multistakeholder community make”. If I was on the Senate
>>>> Committee, I might wonder just what the NTIA had been doing and why they
>>>> were traveling around the world on the taxpayers' dime if they have no
>>>> sway?
>>>>
>>>> That being said, Strickling did offer a brilliant and succinct
>>>> explanation of why the transition not proceeding would harm Internet
>>>> freedom. Good to be reminded of why the transition matters.
>>>>
>>>> Ayden
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 8:23 AM, William Drake [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A memorable performance
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 26, 2016, at 09:05, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Just came across this again this morning, a poignant reminder of why
>>>>> we are all here and what we have been working for over the past 2 years.
>>>>> And why we shouldn’t stumble at the finish line.
>>>>> In defence of the IANA Stewardship Transition…
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIrs8n5Q7Yo
>>>>>
>>>>> -James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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