Hats off to Larry... Surprising that was one of the most succinct explanations of the "why" for the IANA transitions I've heard. That speech could be a starting point for people trying to understand the IANA transition. regards Karel On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 5:32 AM, Michael Oghia <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Seun, > > To clarify, that is definitely not what I meant. I was simply thinking out > loud. On the contrary, I think by excluding governments it undermines the > MS process since, indeed, governments are stakeholders too. > > As far as the other two points, James already clarified as well. > > Best, > -Michael > > > On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Seun Ojedeji <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Michael Oghia <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Ayden, >>> >>> You raise good points. At first thought, the simplest way to answer that >>> is by stressing how the NTIA is still *involved *in the policy >>> judgments via the GAC as well as by contributing to the PDP when >>> appropriate even if it is not *overseeing *it. >>> >> >> NTIA (representing USA) is a member of GAC and GAC is part of the >> community, thats the reason why they participate in Policy, and their >> influence on PDP will be as far as GAC agrees, as far as the rest of the >> ICANN community agree with GAC and as far board agrees. However, that >> function..... >> >> Simply by being present and actively following the proceedings may >>> suffice as oversight. >>> >> >> ....should not be mistaken with their stewardship role as they are 2 >> different things. When stewardship is gone, their role in GAC continues. >> >> >>> Yet another idea is that by constantly being present, even if NTIA >>> officials are silent or in the background, it serves as a reminder to other >>> governments or to the community at large -- a soft power of sorts. >>> >> >> I hope you are not suggesting that governments should not participate or >> share their view on ICANN policy, as i think that will be a bad idea; >> governments are part of the MS community and the PDP is based on >> contributions from the MS community. We should be accommodating if we >> really want to put the MS into real practice. >> >> Regards >> >>> >>> Then again, I could be wrong. Thoughts? >>> >>> Best, >>> -Michael >>> __________________ >>> >>> Michael J. Oghia >>> Istanbul, Turkey >>> Journalist & editor >>> 2015 ISOC IGF Ambassador >>> Skype: mikeoghia >>> Twitter <https://www.twitter.com/MikeOghia> *|* LinkedIn >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikeoghia> >>> >>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for sharing this, James. >>>> >>>> I'm a little surprised that Strickling would note on the record, even >>>> if true, that “we don’t provide any oversight of the policy judgments that >>>> ICANN and the multistakeholder community make”. If I was on the Senate >>>> Committee, I might wonder just what the NTIA had been doing and why they >>>> were traveling around the world on the taxpayers' dime if they have no >>>> sway? >>>> >>>> That being said, Strickling did offer a brilliant and succinct >>>> explanation of why the transition not proceeding would harm Internet >>>> freedom. Good to be reminded of why the transition matters. >>>> >>>> Ayden >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 8:23 AM, William Drake [log in to unmask] wrote: >>>> >>>>> A memorable performance >>>>> >>>>> On May 26, 2016, at 09:05, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Just came across this again this morning, a poignant reminder of why >>>>> we are all here and what we have been working for over the past 2 years. >>>>> And why we shouldn’t stumble at the finish line. >>>>> In defence of the IANA Stewardship Transition… >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIrs8n5Q7Yo >>>>> >>>>> -James >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> >> *Seun Ojedeji,Federal University Oye-Ekitiweb: >> http://www.fuoye.edu.ng <http://www.fuoye.edu.ng> Mobile: +2348035233535**alt >> email: <http://goog_1872880453>[log in to unmask] >> <[log in to unmask]>* >> >> Bringing another down does not take you up - think about your action! >> >> >> >