I smell something not interesting. But hope to hear more updates since I suppose they are receiving complaints from the community and they will hopefully manage to address them 2016-06-03 14:04 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]>: > Thanks for providing this update, Avri. > I don't want to shoot the messenger, but like Seun I find the comment about > the > recordings not to be a very compelling one. > I have no issue with a retreat that brings together the right people, at > the > right time, for the right reasons, with the right process. I see this as an > opportunity for the IGF to take stock, build the strategic muscle needed to > see > the IGF in new and refreshed ways, and to give a turbo boost to certain > matters > that need attention. > I have been silent on this issue for the past fortnight because I believe > that > extraneous participation benefits no one. If people don’t have a vested > interest > in the process, don’t have the knowledge to contribute, and there’s no need > to > build their buy-in, it may not be useful for them to attend the retreat, > online > or in person. > However, there is no reason for activities that will lead to meaty > discussions > and, in turn, outcomes that will impact people outside of the room, to not > be > recorded. There should be full transcripts made available of all > conversations > facilitated by the organisers. I also oppose the use of the Chatham House > rule > at the retreat — if your idea is so great, say it on the record and > attribute it > to your name and/or organisation. You are being entrusted to shape the > future > direction of the IGF for the next 10 years, so there should be a full and > accurate record of events so we can look back, check in every year, and > keep > your work alive. > Just my $0.02. > Ayden > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 12:31 PM, William Drake [log in to unmask] wrote: > Hi > Thanks Shane. I’m familiar with the rule. We don’t use it in the IGF, for > various reasons, at least not since the early tense days of the MAG. > Bill > > On Jun 3, 2016, at 12:13, Shane Kerr < [log in to unmask] > wrote: > William, > > At 2016-06-03 11:13:55 +0200 > William Drake < [log in to unmask] > wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2016, at 02:06, avri doria < [log in to unmask] > wrote: > > Chatham House style (content w/o attribution) > > In true bottom up transparent community driven IGF fashion….not. > > To be honest, that doesn't seem too horrible. The Chatham House rule is > there for a reason: > > Q. What are the benefits of using the Rule? > > A. It allows people to speak as individuals, and to express views > that may not be those of their organizations, and therefore it > encourages free discussion. People usually feel more relaxed if > they don't have to worry about their reputation or the implications > if they are publicly quoted. > > https://www.chathamhouse.org/about/chatham-house-rule > > Cheers, > > -- > Shane - speaking only for myself ;) > > > ************************************************************* > William J. Drake > International Fellow & Lecturer > Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ > University of Zurich, Switzerland > [log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists), > www.williamdrake.org > The Working Group on Internet Governance - 10th Anniversary Reflections > New book at http://amzn.to/22hWZxC > ************************************************************* -- ------------------------ **Arsène Tungali** Co-Founder & Executive Director, *Rudi international <http://www.rudiinternational.org>*, CEO,* Smart Services Sarl <http://www.smart-serv.info>*, *Mabingwa Forum <http://www.mabingwa-forum.com>* Tel: +243 993810967 GPG: 523644A0 *Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo* 2015 Mandela Washington Felllow <http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html> (YALI) - ISOC IGF Ambassador <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/2015Ambassadors> <http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/2015Ambassadors>- Blogger <http://tungali.blogspot.com> - ICANN Fellow <https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2014-07-18-en>. The HuffingtonPost UK <http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/liza-bel/drc_b_8958150.html>