+1 @Ayden. If NPOC is able to have a bank Accounts (even with a cover of an individual) so it's also possible for NCUC and the NCSG too. I'll humbly but warmly recommand more investigaton in that path. My 2 cents -Olévié- Le 3 juil. 2016 14:52, "Michael Oghia" <[log in to unmask]> a écrit : > +1 Ayden > > -Michael > > On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 at 3:48 PM, Ayden Férdeline <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> It is great to hear that both James and Sam have joined Tapani in >> stepping into this important role. I must say, Sam, I do like your idea of >> an annual report — this would be an excellent resource not only for >> ensuring we are doing our part in realising the Sustainable Development >> Goals, but so that we can measure our own progress and ensure that we are >> working in a way that is consistent with our own, internally-set strategic >> and regional engagement strategies. Thank you again for stepping forward >> here, James, Sam, and Tapani. >> >> - Ayden >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2016 2:04 PM, Rafik Dammak [log in to unmask] wrote: >> >>> Hi Sam, >>> >>> just to make 2 corrections here: >>> - NCUC has already a representative, James Gannon, to NCSG FC and I do >>> think he participated in your election >>> - NCSG doesn't have a bank account. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Rafik >>> >>> >>> 2016-07-03 21:29 GMT+09:00 Sam Lanfranco <[log in to unmask]>: >>> >>> I would like to thank those who have wished me well in the position as >>> Chair of the NCSG finance committee and take this opportunity to make a >>> short assessment of the issues and challenges to be faced. First, here is a >>> bit of background. I am the long serving treasurer for a small community >>> museum support group whose budget amounts are similar to those involved in >>> this position. I have been on non-profit boards with annual budgets of >>> several million dollars , and with a past as board chair I am well aware of >>> the transparency and accountability requirements for fiduciary >>> responsibility. >>> >>> I am now also the treasurer for NPOC and will represent NPOC on the >>> finance committee. Tapani, as chair of NCSG, is on the committee. NCUC will >>> designate a person to the committee. >>> >>> Initially I have two goals. The first is to propose a reporting scheme >>> for NCSG, NCUC and NPOC to report out financial information in ways that >>> support transparency and accountability, as a matter of best practice and >>> not because of any worries about accountability. The second is look for >>> possible improvements for how the modest (minimal) funding is administered. >>> That involves dealing with a number of minor but bedeviling issues. None of >>> our three entities has an independent legal status (we are not NGO’s). >>> Thus, most financial systems will not allow us to have independent bank >>> accounts. At the moment the NPOC account is held by an individual, as is >>> the case I believe for NCSG and NCUC. Also, for such accounts national tax >>> authorities may treat deposits as “personal income” and impose taxes. The >>> committee will explore (the rather limited) options for independent bank >>> accounts. The occasional suggestion that NCSG, et. al., look to >>> incorporation as not-for-profit entities brings additional complications >>> and is an unlikely option. >>> >>> Some of the comments have brought up the prospects for “fund raising”. >>> Certainly, if George Soros turned up with his Open Government support >>> cheque/check book, we would figure out how to be grateful recipients, but >>> that is unlikely. At the moment the activities of our groups may have >>> modest ongoing financial support from some quarters, but we mainly gain >>> effectiveness in outreach and engagement by partnering in with others to do >>> what we do. That is probably where we best continue our efforts to leverage >>> our effectiveness in outreach and engagement, and in recruiting support for >>> engagement within ICANN's activities. I note that “partnership” is goal #17 >>> in the UN’s list of 17 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs). >>> >>> It is beyond the scope of the finance committee but we might >>> collectively consider doing an annual report of such collaborative outreach >>> and engagement to document the extent of our multistakeholder engagement >>> with our constituencies and their interests in Internet governance, >>> interests that in their case may go well beyond ICANN’s internal remit. >>> Such a report would be in addition to ICANN's efforts at internal Key >>> Performance Indicators (PKIs). Lastly, any and all suggestions are >>> gratefully accepted. >>> >>> Sam Lanfranco, NCSG Finance Committee >>> >>> >>> >> >> Ayden Férdeline >> Statement of Interest >> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsosoi/Ayden+Férdeline+SOI> >> > >