Hello to Each and All, As a neophyte to all ICANN/NCSG/NCUC matters, I must admit that I know what I don't know.... That said, if I wanted to run for an elected office, I would not be intimidated by the "acclamation" of another candidate. In my opinion, anyone who is intimidated by that is probably not a strong candidate. My question is this: Who RUNS the internet? I would Love to attend ICANN 57 in Hyderabad, India. But guess what, no one is going to PAY me to go there. I ask YOU - who is paying for YOUR airfare and hotel, and meals, and extras....? I truly believe that all of those Fortune 1000 companies who think that they own the internet should pay for anyone like me who has the time and the interest to go to Hyderabad.... ICANN won't get "New Blood" into this process until it starts funding New Blood. With all all of the Billions of Dollar$ that are being earned via the internet, how come a concerned voice such as mine cannot go to Hyderabad? Many thanks for listening.... Cheers, Patrick Lenihan ---- Original Message ---- From: Stephanie Perrin <[log in to unmask]> To: NCSG-DISCUSS <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wed, Aug 3, 2016 10:27 pm Subject: Re: +1's and support +1 Well said. We all would welcome any questions. Cannot say it often enough. Stephanie Perrin On 2016-08-03 19:04, Dan Krimm wrote: I think it's worth pointing out that my sense of the veterans here is that they are generally welcoming to energetic newcomers, the more the merrier as long as you are prepared to dig in and share some heavy lifting. The veterans often will feel burdened -- there is much to be done, and the relative few with long-standing experience in the labyrinth of ICANN often feel like there are few alternatives to pick up the ball. Then there is a tension between allocating resources to getting new folks up to speed versus just getting things done. It's that joke about being up to your butt in alligators while trying to drain the swamp. In many positions here, experience is not as crucial as it may be to NomCom in particular -- new folks can get up to speed as long as they can allocate the effort for the learning curve, and if they bring related technical and policy experience from outside ICANN per se they can very quickly become very valuable to the process. I think newcomers who come to us with energy and sufficient time to be available for some hard work should not feel intimidated at all. The more we can spread the work around, the more effective we will be collectively. (Spoken as someone who regretfully has little time currently for the heavy substantive work...) While it would be great to have more of a mentoring dynamic here (as you put it, a leadership program), there is at least a decent collection of self-learning resources that are available to new members. Here's a selection from what Tapani included in his most recent welcome message: General tips: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/How+To+Get+Involved List of working groups and their members: https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Getting+Involved+in+Working+Groups A one-stop page about ICANN's policy efforts: http://gnso.icann.org/sites/gnso.icann.org/files/gnso/presentations/policy-efforts.htm Information about GNSO and about GNSO activities during ICANN meetings: http://gnso.icann.org/en/icannmeeting Finally, if you begin to feel overwhelmed by ICANN acronyms, you will find most of them in this glossary: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/glossary-2014-02-03-en We've discussed more active mentoring options in the past, but I'm not aware of anything that really put down roots and established a durable process -- this is a long-standing issue that has simply not been resolved. Short of that we fall back on individual bootstrapping to get going. I would encourage newcomers to try to identify the people involved in various areas of interest and to not be shy about asking them pointed questions in order to accelerate the process of self-education. It's less like a cable car and more like rock-climbing. If we were to formalize this, I might imagine creating formal roles in NCSG/NCUC/NPOC where the sole responsibility is to actively help newcomers get oriented and engaged. In a typical NPO with lots of volunteers, this might be a Volunteer Supervisor/Coordinator, and it would be a paid position. We have no paid positions, but we might nevertheless find it valuable to have someone formally in such a role (an elected position? appointed by EC?), as opposed to only having policy-substantive roles. Depending on how it is defined, it may or may not require a charter update. Bottom line: Don't be intimidated, for any reason. If you want to get involved, there will always be a way to get you going in some capacity. You don't have to be elected to a representative position in order to contribute something of unique value to the group. Start out by getting onto a WG or two, and when you find your footing you'll be ready to run for an elected position. Find an entry point to focus your efforts, and don't worry about being expert in the entire range of NCSG activities. Pick something where you have an existing interest and perhaps some useful expertise outside ICANN, and jump right in. If you can actually commit to a serious work schedule, you will quickly be seen as an expert and will rise according to that merit. It's not about joining up and immediately getting elected to something. Get involved by participating in specific working processes, demonstrate what you can do, and then you will naturally be asked to do more (be careful what you ask for, you might get it!). Dan At 7:10 PM -0300 8/3/16, Renata Aquino Ribeiro wrote: Hi I don't agree with discouraging people from expressing +1s to nominations. It doesn't even seem feasible, really. However, as someone who decided not to run, it is very intimidating the immense outpur of support for continuity, in opposition to the timid and localized expressions around new names. It wasn't my decisive factor but it is a factor now and I can't seem to think of it not being so in a foreseeable future. But, this intimidation to me has more to do with the roster of "usual suspects" always climbing up the ladders of ICANN leadership than an actual aversion to newcomers. Being new, not from an english speaking country, will always be harder. That is why diversity criteria addresses this and perhaps thinking about a leadership programme to NCs could make things better. Best, Renata