the subtle mathematics of voting…… Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 22 Aug 2016, at 6:46, avri doria wrote: > Hi, > > The way I always thought NOTA worked in a ranking election as we have > for council, is that if someone picked NOTA instead of one candidate, > they were saying they preferred no one to that person. > > If they picked NOTA instead of 2 or 3 they preferred NOTA to any of > them. > > After the counting, the top n win (3 in this case), except that anyone > who got fewer votes than NOTA would not. If there were fewer people > that 3 above NOTA, then we would need another election to fill the > empty > slot (s). > > Our various EC were supposed to write procedures defining all of this > stuff years ago. Unfortunately they have functioned more as > membership > committee than an EC doing the chartered work of proposing procedures > as > defined in the charter. > > avri > > > > > On 22-Aug-16 08:23, James Gannon wrote: >> Hi Tapani, >> >> In the absence of something in the charter, can you clarify what the >> situation is with regards to NOTA votes if NOTA places above a >> natural person in the final vote what is the situation? >> >> -James >> >> >> >> >> >> On 22/08/2016, 10:54, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" >> <[log in to unmask] on behalf of >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 09:44:10AM +0000, James Gannon >>> ([log in to unmask]) wrote: >>> >>>> Just on process where does the NOTA candidate come from with >>>> regards >>>> to our charter, as it seems that the inclusion of a NOTA candidate >>>> is not referenced anywhere. >>> While NotA is not explicitly mentioned in the charter, it has been >>> discussed in the past and an explicit NotA choice has been felt >>> to be useful. I'm only following precedent here. >>> >>>> Also we have a serious election process flaw in that with the >>>> manner >>>> in which NOTA is given is makes it impossible for us not to elect a >>>> full slate of candidates if the number of candidates matches the >>>> number of positions, which makes this essentially an acclimation. >>> How so? You can select any number of candidates, up to three. >>> >>> Arguably NotA is redundant in that the practical effect is >>> the same as not selecting any candidates, but in the past >>> it has been considered better to have it as an explicit choice. >>> >>> -- >>> Tapani Tarvainen > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus