Another interesting way of seing things..

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2016-08-22 14:46 GMT+02:00 avri doria <[log in to unmask]>:

> Hi,
>
> The way I always thought NOTA worked in a ranking election as we have
> for council, is that if someone picked NOTA instead of one candidate,
> they were saying they preferred no one to that person.
>
> If they picked NOTA instead of 2 or 3 they preferred NOTA to any of them.
>
> After the counting, the top n win (3 in this case), except that anyone
> who got fewer votes than NOTA would not.  If there were fewer people
> that 3 above NOTA, then we would need another election to fill the empty
> slot (s).
>
> Our various EC were supposed to write procedures defining all of this
> stuff years ago.  Unfortunately they have functioned more as membership
> committee than an EC doing the chartered work of proposing procedures as
> defined in the charter.
>
> avri
>
>
>
>
> On 22-Aug-16 08:23, James Gannon wrote:
> > Hi Tapani,
> >
> > In the absence of something in the charter, can you clarify what the
> situation is with regards to NOTA votes if NOTA places above a natural
> person in the final vote what is the situation?
> >
> > -James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22/08/2016, 10:54, "NCSG-Discuss on behalf of Tapani Tarvainen" <
> [log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 09:44:10AM +0000, James Gannon (
> [log in to unmask]) wrote:
> >>
> >>> Just on process where does the NOTA candidate come from with regards
> >>> to our charter, as it seems that the inclusion of a NOTA candidate
> >>> is not referenced anywhere.
> >> While NotA is not explicitly mentioned in the charter, it has been
> >> discussed in the past and an explicit NotA choice has been felt
> >> to be useful. I'm only following precedent here.
> >>
> >>> Also we have a serious election process flaw in that with the manner
> >>> in which NOTA is given is makes it impossible for us not to elect a
> >>> full slate of candidates if the number of candidates matches the
> >>> number of positions, which makes this essentially an acclimation.
> >> How so? You can select any number of candidates, up to three.
> >>
> >> Arguably NotA is redundant in that the practical effect is
> >> the same as not selecting any candidates, but in the past
> >> it has been considered better to have it as an explicit choice.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tapani Tarvainen
>
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