Hi, I obviously agree with Avri on all counts. Thanks. Amr > On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:58 PM, avri doria <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I do not think this needs a charter change. We need well formed > procedures created by our EC and vetted with the membership. The > charter was written to allow for such procedures to be created. In fact > that is one of the expected products of the EC. > > For today we need to keep using the previous practice > > After the EC comes up with a proper procedure or we discuss changing > practice in the SG we can change what we do. Before then it is > undemocratic and a serious breech of process, which I find inexplicable. > > avri > > > On 22-Aug-16 16:44, Klaus Stoll wrote: >> Dear Amr >> >> I thought I explained this several times today and did not want to >> repeat myself. I am not against the use of nota, I am against the use >> of nota in order to prevent a candidate that is on the ballot. I can >> feel your pain but as long as we keep having this kind of discussions >> like today, people will think twice if they put themselves up as a >> candidate. What we need is fundamental charter changes and fundamental >> changes in our culture of working together. >> >> Klaus >> >> >> On 8/22/2016 4:37 PM, Amr Elsadr wrote: >>> Hi Klaus, >>> >>> You still haven’t pointed me towards any text in the charter that >>> prohibits the use of NOTA. :) >>> >>> And also: >>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2016, at 10:17 PM, Klaus Stoll <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Amr >>>> >>>> Thanks for your comments. My thoughts are: >>>> >>>> We need to go religiously by the charter and what the NCSG-EC does. >>> My point is that I believe that this has been done using NOTA over >>> the past few years. In fact, I believe that the changes being >>> suggested now conflict with the charter, because the EC hasn’t >>> approved the procedures being introduced during this election cycle. >>> I do not believe that it is right or in the best interest of the NCSG >>> for us to wait until after the elections to challenge this. >>> >>> Thanks again. >>> >>> Amr >> > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus