Dear All,
I have returned from dropping off my son at college to find many messages about the election. I have several things to share. First, I would like to thank our Chair, Tapani, for kicking off the elections in a timely and efficient manner. It is hard work, and important that we hold the election on time. Thank you, Tapani, for your time and effort in urging people to register for the election and now in distributing ballots in a fair and timely way.
Second, changing the ballot now could result in greater procedural irregularities and unfairness. I have already voted; Bill said he has already voted; others likely have already voted. I fear the procedural irregularities that might result from re-starting the elections. That is not a trivial or easy process. Should someone not receive a new ballot, or should someone be traveling and not be able to recast their ballot, that would be a substantive injustice -- a real unfairness - that I would argue outweighs most procedural concerns.
Third, the ballot, to me, looks like other ballots we have received."2015 Annual Election of ICANN's Noncommercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG): Please find the candidates statements here : https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Candidate+Statements Important Remarks: For NCSG Chair position: select 1 candidate only. If you select more than 1 candidate your vote will be invalid. For NCSG representatives to the GNSO Council you can select up to 3 candidates. If you select more than 3 candidates your vote will be invalid. You can change your vote till the deadline 14th September 23:59UTC, only the last selection will be counted. You will receive several reminders during the election with same link to your ballot. The weight of your vote is indicated in the ballot (1 for individual, 2 for small organisation and 4 for large organisation). 1. One NCSG Chair (1-year term) Please select 1 choice: 1: 36 votes [] James Gannon 2:292 votes [] Tapani Tarvainen 3: 16 votes [] None of the above 2. Three NCSG Representatives to the GNSO Council (3 2-year term) Please select 3 choices: 4:247 votes [] Amr Elsadr 5:247 votes [] Marilia Maciel 6:265 votes [] Stefania Milan 7: 26 votes [] None of the above"==> This means that this year and last year, the ballot format was essentially the same: an office, all names of candidates for that office, then the option of "None of the above." I specifically note that last year, like this year, we did not follow each individual name with "None of the Above." The NOTA followed the group of candidates.
[log in to unmask]" type="cite">Avri,
Okay I think I am starting to understand where you are coming from; basically you are saying that not providing NOTA option to individual counselor on the ballot (because that of chair is clear) may not give the avenue to factually review numbers of yes against number of no for each candidates. So if there are total of 100 votes weight casted and their are more NOTA for a candidate then such person will not be elected.
If the above is what you are referring to and if that is the usual tradition(which I think you call "old school"). Then it makes sense and yes the current ballot would not provide a definite data source to achieve that. However one could also assume that whoever voted and selected two counselors instead of three is technically implying a NOTA for the particular candidate - Although one may argue that it's not always the case since one could actually decide to abstain on a particular candidate.
Overall I think even though both "old school" and "new school" are not clearly stated in the charter, the known devil should be maintained until there is familiarity with and approval of the incoming angel ;-)
Regards
Sent from my LG G4
Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 22 Aug 2016 23:08, "avri doria" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
On 22-Aug-16 15:25, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
> 3. If you want just two of the three candidates then you can still
> just select the two leaving the person you don't want unselected.
> (ref: from the instructions: Select *at most three* of the following
> candidates...)
this does not work.
We do not require a quorum, so as long as every candidate gets at least
one vote and as as long as there are only N candidates for N jobs,
everyone gets elected. It take the choice out of the election to remove
NOTA's function.
The voted NOTA gives a demarcation which someone cannot fall below and
still be elected. That is why picking NOTA is on the ballot with the
same weight as a single candidate. One intentionally needs to pick NOTA
instead of one of the named candidates
avri
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