I strongly support James comment. We should avoid this discussion up-front! Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 24 Aug 2016, at 16:31, James Gannon wrote: > Glen in the only person who has access to the votes, and I would > challenge anyone to even consider the possibility of her compromising > the integrity of the ballots and the election in general. I personally > don’t see this as a topic worth discussing. > > -James > > From: NCSG-Discuss > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > on behalf of Ayden Férdeline > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Reply-To: Ayden Férdeline > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Date: Wednesday 24 August 2016 at 21:23 > To: > "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Subject: Re: *Important* NCSG 2016 Annual Elections - Voting rules > > Hi Ron, > > Sorry for the confusion, but I do not have any kind of deep mistrust > for ICANN staff and did not intend for my remarks to be interpreted in > that manner. > > Scepticism of the process is okay, however as I said in an email to > this list yesterday, I consent to the legitimacy of the electoral > process, I am willing to bear the costs of electoral participation, > and I am fully prepared to use this to communicate my pleasure or > displeasure with the candidate(s) that are presented before me. > > Best wishes, > > Ayden > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: *Important* NCSG 2016 Annual Elections - Voting rules > Local Time: August 24, 2016 9:00 PM > UTC Time: August 24, 2016 8:00 PM > From: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > To: > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2016, Ayden Férdeline wrote: > >> Yes, I agree there should be a mechanism in place that allows voters >> to spoil their ballot paper, should they wish to do so. The number of >> spoiled ballots should be recorded. > > I would consider it improper for anyone, be they ICANN staff or a > member of our community, to contact a voter about the contents of > their ballot paper and to insinuate that they may have voted in an > improper manner. If indeed it is possible to determine the number of > 'invalid' ballot papers before the election is over, and who has cast > a vote in such a manner, I am surprised this is the case. > > - Ayden > > hi Ayden, > > yes, with the mistrust that the NGSC has had for ICANN staff, it seems > that > trusting the election to a staff-run system would be considered > non-optimum. > > i would prefer that an independent outside voting organization that > would > keep the partial results of elections in progress secret from members > and > ICANN staff and only report the final results. > > while this is possible in the bylaws, our organization has no > independent > funds to contract for this outside work. but this option should be on > the table with the later discussion of voting procedures. > > -ron