Thanks Brett.  I agree, and am considering it.  We have a burnout issue 
that needs to be discussed.  I do not mean me, I mean generally there is 
too much work being done by too few people.

cheers Stephanie


On 2016-08-03 11:29, Schaefer, Brett wrote:
>
> Niels,
>
> I disagree. The NCSG had various views on a number of issues in the 
> transition proposal. I actually though that the councilors did a 
> credible job of representing the diversity of views in the NCSG by 
> dividing their votes.
>
> On the issue of fresh blood, is this really a big problem? David Cake 
> is term limited. So that will be at least on new person. If Stephanie 
> is concerned about this issue, she could just decide not to run and 
> ensure that a new person will fill her slot.
>
> That said, I think there is value in continuity and experience in 
> dealing with issues before the GNSO.
>
> Best,
>
> Brett
>
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> *From:*NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf 
> Of *Niels ten Oever
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 03, 2016 11:02 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: +1's and support
>
> I'd like to add that I think it would also be very good if we would
> increase the accountability of our councillors and leadership team.
>
> I was for instance very surprised, and quite shocked frankly, when one
> of our own councillors, as the only one on the GNSO, came out against
> the inclusion of a commitment to human rights in ICANNs bylaws.
>
> I do not think this represented the opinion of the NCSG, or at least
> such a decision was not agreed upon.
>
> NCSG has gained a lot of credibility, but it is also at risk of losing
> it at times. Better accountability can help us to prevent that from
> happening.
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
> On 08/03/2016 04:44 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> > Having served on council now for two years, I think we should consider
> > better how we want to run these elections. DO people out there really
> > understand the work we do on council? How do we want our council
> > members to act? How do we want them to discuss issues on our monthly
> > policy calls? How collaborative should the decision making be? How do
> > we do succession planning and mentoring? These are issues that are
> > fundamentally important in my view, and should be discussed during the
> > campaign, not relegated to nominee's statements.
> >
> > I agree with Niels and Milton that if expressions of support are
> > suppressing candidates from coming forward, we need a rule against it.
> > We desperately need more people to run....there was only one contested
> > seat the last time I ran, when gender balance and regional balance were
> > taken into consideration.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Stephanie
> >
> >
> > On 2016-08-03 10:24, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. wrote:
> >> Dear Milton.
> >>
> >> I agree that this is a very fine procedural point, that should be
> >> managed clearly by the people responsible for the process, from the
> >> first mail on, so as to allow for others to consider participating.
> >> Maybe it should even become a written rule of internal netiquette.
> >>
> >> But in the meantime, coming from a Hyperdemocratic and
> >> Hyper-freedom-of-expression rights country like Costa Rica (and the
> >> re-election being a possibility for some incumbents) I done´t see
> >> anything wrong in feeling the temperature of the room early on as a
> >> way to recognise how hard some of them have worked in the past. We
> >> might have chosen the wrong place to make this type of comments, but
> >> space should be available for making them in the list anyhow. Maybe
> >> just under a different heading, like “I don´t like the re-election of
> >> incumbents” for example.
> >>
> >> Now, do we have an explicit rule as suggested by Niels and you? How
> >> and where do we express our support for that rule? Should we draw a
> >> redline and asked for a renewed call for the election process with the
> >> new rule and forget the past? Lets be practical and move forward ASAP.
> >>
> >> Best
> >>
> >> Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
> >> +506 8837 7176
> >> Skype: carlos.raulg
> >> Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica)
> >> On 3 Aug 2016, at 8:11, Mueller, Milton L wrote:
> >>
> >>> I second Niels's views. I have refrained from expressing any opinion
> >>> about the nominations until the nominations are closed and we are
> >>> discussing candidate statements. I have always done so.
> >>>
> >>> --MM
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On 
> Behalf Of
> >>>> Niels ten Oever
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 10:30 AM
> >>>> To: [log in to unmask] 
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> Subject: +1's and support
> >>>>
> >>>> Dear all,
> >>>>
> >>>> Even though I think the regular display of +1's is a signal of
> >>>> mutual support
> >>>> and camaraderie. I have the feeling that sometimes it is drowning
> >>>> out other
> >>>> discussions about content on the list.
> >>>>
> >>>> May I also remind people that the voting happens later, so the
> >>>> candidates
> >>>> need your support is even more then.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm greatly looking forward to the statements of the candidates.
> >>>>
> >>>> All the best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Niels
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Niels ten Oever
> >>>> Head of Digital
> >>>>
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> >
>
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