Dear Rachel

You are asking a very very important question: After joining NCSG, what's next? I think what is called for is a cross constituency program that leads newcomers to get involved in policy making. The business of the NCSG and the Constituencies is policy making, having members is only a tool that allows us to do so. Having people stuck on the membership stage harms us no end. Newcomers are not immediately leadership candidates, they cut their teeth in the working groups first, but with help they can very quickly become so. As a immediate step we should publish list of experienced members that make themselves available to newcomers. The newcomers take their pick and approach them.  I think we have something like that already implemented, maybe it needs to be strengthened.

Thanks again for a great question

Klaus


On 8/3/2016 12:54 PM, Rachel Pollack wrote:
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Dear All,

As a newcomer who has been subscribed to this list for less than a month, I don't a strong opinion on the issue of +1's / expression of support. But I have observed in my short time in ICANN how knowledgable and dedicated Stephanie is, and I hope that she will stay on as a councillor.

For the very, very new like me, the question is less how to feel motivated to run for an elected position (which would be way too early) than figuring out the best way and place to get more involved. After joining NCSG, what's next?

Completely separate from the elections question, would it be possible to have an overview of some of the GNSO and cross-community working groups to get a sense of where volunteers are most needed now? I checked the ICANN community website and have seen lots of information, but it would be helpful to know what the urgent areas are that could most benefit from new members. Does such a resource already exist?

Feel free to respond to the list with ideas or to message me directly with advice.

Many thanks,

Rachel



On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:18 PM, Stephanie Perrin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


oops, left the list off this one....

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Subject: Re: +1's and support
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 11:30:11 -0400
From: Stephanie Perrin <[log in to unmask]>
To: Amr Elsadr <[log in to unmask]>


+1 to what Amr said

Regarding the issue of suppression of candidates, I think it is a human reality that if someone is somewhat less well-known but would like to participate more, they may be deterred by strong showing of support for more vocal or well-known candidates.  This favours incumbents.  Also favours english speakers who communicate extensively, IMHO.  However, other than a couple of people who have contacted me off-list to agree, I don't think we have any hard evidence that it suppresses nominations.  Some people who some of us have tried to persuade to run have declined because it is a lot of hard work and they cannot fit it into their schedule.

Cheers Stephanie


On 2016-08-03 11:32, Amr Elsadr wrote:
Hi,

On Aug 3, 2016, at 5:13 PM, Arsène Tungali <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

An interesting debate that actually needs to be properly adressed.

A scenario:
A nomination was made for someone, then people started showing support (with +1s) until they realize there is another nomination that comes in and they now wonder how to cancel their first support given the new one is "more qualified and sounds the best" than the one they initially supported. If we only count +1s made for a candidate, we may get the wrong temperature of the room for so many reasons.
I’ve never seen +1s to indicate who a person is going to vote for. It just shows that the person +1ing believes a candidate’s nomination is a good one.

I don’t usually endorse nominations unless I have something I want to say about the candidate, but I have on occasion endorsed the nominations of multiple candidates running against each other. When I do, it isn’t because I’m trying to mess up the temperature of the room, but rather to indicate that I believe that we have more than one worthy candidate. Who I finally vote for is private, and at that point, I would have to pick one over the other taking into account many factors including candidate statements, etc…

Thanks.

Amr