I see a few hundred of stakeholders in ITU (Sector members). Even ISOC. But I don’t see ICANN https://www.itu.int/online/mm/scripts/gensel11 Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 8 Aug 2016, at 7:14, Sam Lanfranco wrote: > And ICANN is a "stakeholder without standing" in the ITU. As Internet > governance comes of age it will transpire in many locations and at > many levels. > Just like stakeholders within ICANN, ICANN will have to figure out how > to be everywhere almost all the time to deal with policy issues that > impinge on its remit. > > Sam L. > > On 2016-08-07 8:47 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote: >>> -----Original Message----- >>> But I guess GAC has less well-defined institutional dynamics than >>> ITU. Is that >>> the difference you're getting at? -- I'm no expert on ITU either...) >>> >>> Or, are we now considering governments "stakeholders" too? If so, >>> why not >>> just make GAC a garden-variety SG in GNSO? The "GSG" -- Government >>> Stakeholder Group? >> Bingo. That's what is happening. >> >>> I may not be expert in the implications of the term of art >>> "multilateral" >>> but I honestly don't see much difference in ICANN being whip-tailed >>> by GAC or >>> ITU if the dynamic is comparable. Can you elaborate on this >>> distinction? >> The difference is that an ICANN completely dominated by governments >> is worse than the ITU because ICANN has global hierarchical power >> over the DNS, whereas as a treaty-based organization the ITU cannot >> make any sovereign member do something it doesn't want to do. When >> ICANN imposes rules on how DNS works however, it has global effect. >> > > -- > > *--------------------------------------------* > "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured > in an unjust state" -Confucius > ---------------------------------------------- > Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) > Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 > YorkU email: [log in to unmask] Skype: slanfranco > blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com > Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852