As far as I know ICANN is not a sector member of the ITU. avri On 08-Aug-16 09:44, Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G. wrote: > I see a few hundred of stakeholders in ITU (Sector members). Even > ISOC. But I don’t see ICANN > > > https://www.itu.int/online/mm/scripts/gensel11 > > > Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez > +506 8837 7176 > Skype: carlos.raulg > Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) > On 8 Aug 2016, at 7:14, Sam Lanfranco wrote: > >> And ICANN is a "stakeholder without standing" in the ITU. As Internet >> governance comes of age it will transpire in many locations and at >> many levels. >> Just like stakeholders within ICANN, ICANN will have to figure out >> how to be everywhere almost all the time to deal with policy issues >> that impinge on its remit. >> >> Sam L. >> >> On 2016-08-07 8:47 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote: >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> But I guess GAC has less well-defined institutional dynamics than >>>> ITU. Is that >>>> the difference you're getting at? -- I'm no expert on ITU either...) >>>> >>>> Or, are we now considering governments "stakeholders" too? If so, >>>> why not >>>> just make GAC a garden-variety SG in GNSO? The "GSG" -- Government >>>> Stakeholder Group? >>> Bingo. That's what is happening. >>> >>>> I may not be expert in the implications of the term of art >>>> "multilateral" >>>> but I honestly don't see much difference in ICANN being whip-tailed >>>> by GAC or >>>> ITU if the dynamic is comparable. Can you elaborate on this >>>> distinction? >>> The difference is that an ICANN completely dominated by governments >>> is worse than the ITU because ICANN has global hierarchical power >>> over the DNS, whereas as a treaty-based organization the ITU cannot >>> make any sovereign member do something it doesn't want to do. When >>> ICANN imposes rules on how DNS works however, it has global effect. >>> >> >> -- >> >> *--------------------------------------------* >> "It is a disgrace to be rich and honoured >> in an unjust state" -Confucius >> ---------------------------------------------- >> Dr Sam Lanfranco (Prof Emeritus & Senior Scholar) >> Econ, York U., Toronto, Ontario, CANADA - M3J 1P3 >> YorkU email: [log in to unmask] Skype: slanfranco >> blog: http://samlanfranco.blogspot.com >> Phone: 613 476-0429 cell: 416-816-2852 > --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus