I agree.  The policy meeting is supposed to coordinate positions prior 
to the Council meeting, but it is tough even getting the important 
issues squeezed into the call, and few participate.  Maybe what we need 
is an open council wiki where we can talk about what we are doing?

Stephanie Perrin


On 2016-08-17 4:46, James Gannon wrote:
> Hey Bill
>
> As I think some people here know I have asked for greater 
> accountability of our councillors in the past, specially on 
> coordination and ensuring that they are reflecting the views of the 
> NCSG and not just their personal positions, as when we get into 
> situations of personal attempts to become political players (And 
> usually fail) we do our whole community a disservice.
>
> I would like to build on your below and ask, how are the candidates 
> planning on upholding the integrity of the NCSG, will they make a 
> pledge not to attempt to go rogue and to perform a coordinated vote 
> when asked to? Will they pledge to work with the NCSG and not against 
> it and not to engage in actions that may put us all at risk of losing 
> our credibility. We need our councillors to be out in public telling 
> us what they are doing and why they are doing it and I think that’s 
> something that we are really bad at at the moment. Looking back over 
> this list we have extremely few messages from our councillors as a 
> whole, and I think that that is not good enough. For our elected 
> representatives one message every few weeks or months doesn’t really 
> cut it in my opinion. We need more accountability, more communication 
> and more openness in what our representatives are doing on our behalf 
> I think.
>
>
> -James
>
>
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> Subject: Proposed Items for the Meet the Candidates call tomorrow: 
> Transparency and coordination in Council
>
> Hi
>
>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 23:38, Robin Gross <[log in to unmask] 
>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>
>> Agreed.  It is important for members to become more acquainted with 
>> our representatives and resumes are extremely helpful for that.
>
> Sharing candidates’ resumes is not a bad idea.  But I’d like to 
> suggest we go beyond this.  Two issue we might want to consider on 
> tomorrow’s call:
>
> When I joined Council in 2009, we discussed the need for better 
> reporting to members as to what their reps were actually doing in 
> Council.  We launched an attempt to deal with this by having 
> Councilors take turns doing brief reports about Council meetings. Alas 
> it didn’t get far, after a couple times the sense of urgency faded, 
> people told themselves “well, members can always look at the Council 
> archive to see what’s happening," and the effort drifted off.  But of 
> course it’s actually not easy for a member to dive through the Council 
> archive and try to reconstruct what’s happening, and it’s not so hard 
> to compose a one or two paragraph summary of a monthly Council meeting 
> indicating how our reps voted on which issues, especially if the 
> workload is rotated among six Councilors, making it just a few times 
> per year each.  So while it’s a bit uncomfortable suggesting work to 
> be done by others, I’d like to put this idea back on the table ahead 
> of our Meet the Candidates call tomorrow.  It need not be an one 
> onerous thing, and after all we exist to participate in the GNSO, so 
> surely we should be able to know how our reps are representing us in 
> the GNSO.  Especially when we’re being asked to vote them into 
> ‘office’ (for incumbents) on the basis of past performance.
>
> More generally, we have long debated the matter of coordination among 
> Council reps.  Unlike most if not all other parts of the GNSO, NCSG by 
> charter doesn’t normally do ‘directed voting,’ where the members are 
> bound to vote in conformity with a rough consensus position.  We have 
> a charter provision to do this in exceptional cases, but I don’t 
> recall it ever being invoked.  We’ve always been content to operate on 
> the notion that the Councilor does what s/he thinks is in the best 
> interest of civil society @ GNSO, and if members don’t approve of 
> anyone’s action they can vote them out in the next cycle.  But as that 
> has not really happened, it’s sort of a meaningless check and balance. 
>  And this is not without consequence, as we’ve sometimes had internal 
> differences within our contingent that have arguably undermined our 
> effectiveness and credibility in the eyes of the community and staff, 
> and can even allow our various business stakeholder group counterparts 
> to exploit the differences in order to push through what they want in 
> opposition to our common baseline views.  So at a minimum, we need to 
> do better somehow at team coordination and make sure all our 
> Councilors know what each other is doing and why and so there’s no 
> real time surprises, especially during meetings with high stakes votes.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Best
>
> Bill