May I suggest this group would also benchmark ideas with the SOs/ACs ACCT Work Track? Hope any effort would allow us to look better in the future, not only internally, but also as benchmark with other groups. my 1 cent. Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez +506 8837 7176 Skype: carlos.raulg Current UTC offset: -6.00 (Costa Rica) On 6 Sep 2016, at 11:42, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: > Hi Bill, > > That is a very good suggestion. Let's form a working group, basically > just create a new mailing list, for people who want to work on > election reform, rather than clogging up the general -discuss list > with all the details. > > -- > Tapani Tarvainen > > On Sep 06 09:29, William Drake ([log in to unmask]) wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I agree with Sam that there is more important business to attend to >> right now and suspect an extended round of back and forths on >> election design is unlikely to be productive. There are well over >> 500 members on this list and interest in reading through this debate >> may not be universal. Our priority here should be facilitating >> engagement on ICANN/GNSO policy issues. >> >> Why don't those members who are keen to redesign the ballot for the >> next cycle form a working group and develop a proposal or two that >> can be brought back to the full list and the NCSG EC down the line? >> >> Best >> >> Bill >> >>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 00:12, Sam Lanfranco <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> All, >>> >>> We had an election where the terms of the election were clear to >>> all. Some of us did not like the way NOTA was handled in the >>> election and have asked the NCSG EC review that, as well as review >>> other election format issues. >>> >>> It is not at all productive to question why individual voters voted >>> as they did, wondering if they were confused or unduly swayed by >>> this or that posting. If we have suggestions about a better format >>> for NCSG elections, we should convey those ideas to the NCSG EC. >>> There they will be deliberated in an open and transparent manner >>> such that we arrive at a clear consensus with regard to the way >>> elections are handled in the future. In the mean time there is ample >>> other business to attend to. >>> >>> On 9/5/2016 5:50 PM, Mueller, Milton L wrote: >>> >>> ................[deleted]............... >>> >>> Sam L. >> >> ************************************************ >> William J. Drake >> International Fellow & Lecturer >> Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ >> University of Zurich, Switzerland >> [log in to unmask] (direct), [log in to unmask] (lists), >> www.williamdrake.org >> ************************************************ >>