Carlos and Paul,

I am just opening up discussion here. In response to Carlos' question, 
individuals get 1 vote, small organizations get 2 votes, and large 
organizations get 4 votes. Organizations cannot spread their votes, they 
are all assigned to a single candidate when a vote is placed. It does 
mean however that an individual can join NCSG as an individual, and as 
the representative of an organization. With quick look at the membership 
spreadsheet I was able to identify at least two of our colleagues who 
have 5 votes each. [/Note: the membership list includes some memberships 
that should be deleted (through withdrawal, or demise of the individual 
or the organization) but they cannot and did not vote so no harm on that 
front/]. 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o0n2H5xkTPmon8K8wbFg0dAZTouHWgkWjcyNsSs_YXw/edit#gid=0 

This is why we are working on an improved NCSG/NCUC/NPOC membership 
management process at the moment.

In response to Paul's query, again it is just to put issues on the 
table. Do the representatives of large organizations, with their 4 
votes, poll their organizations to see how they should vote? I don't 
know. Is it better for large organizations to have 4 votes, or to 
recruit more members (hopefully engaged in NCSG work) to carry more 
weight? Worth discussing. As it is, any organization (or clique of 
individuals) could stage a "registration arms race" as you put it. As 
comment around the election said, NCSG needs more worker bees (Stephanie 
Perrin's term) and certainly doesn't need registration arms race drones. 
Not taking a position here. Just asking.

Sam Lanfranco




On 9/7/2016 1:12 PM, Carlos Vera wrote:
> ‎Multiple voting rights mean:
>
> 1. More than one vote per organization or person?
> 2. More weight for some votes and some ponderation factor?
> 3. Multiple chances to vote the same person or organization with the 
> same ballot?
>
> Some other meaning?
> Can you please explain?
> Thank you
> Carlos Vera
> Enviado desde mi smartphone BlackBerry 10.
> *De: *Paul Rosenzweig
> *Enviado: *miércoles, 7 de septiembre de 2016 12:07
> *Para: *[log in to unmask]
> *Responder a: *Paul Rosenzweig
> *Asunto: *Re: Detailed election results
>
>
> I curious Sam as to why you want to review.  Full context, of course, 
> is that I’m part of a large organization.  But if you change the 
> rules, I am quite certain I can get more than 4 (many more than 4) 
> individuals from the organization to sign up.  And that’s also true, 
> I’m sure of the other organizations, including some of those I often 
> disagree with.  The 4N limit is kind of a cap on a registration arms 
> race …
>
> Paul
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> *From:*NCSG-Discuss [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf 
> Of *Sam Lanfranco
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 7, 2016 11:19 AM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: Detailed election results
>
> There was a maximum of 349 votes registered based on 247 ballots counted.
> That means that there were 102 “extra votes” from voters with multiple 
> voting rights.
> A third or more of the votes cast were based on extra voting rights.
>
> I would hope that the issue of multiple voting rights is also reviewed.
> As well, a pointer to where the rules for multiple voting rights are 
> listed,
> and how organizational size is determined, and monitored, would be 
> useful.
> That would assist the rest of us in developing an informed opinion here.
> Is there a location on the ICANN or NCSG websites that discloses who,
> representing what organizations, has multiple voting rights? ‎
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> *Total Ballots Cast (including duplicates):* 282
> *Ballots Counted (excluding duplicates):* 247
> *Voters Who Haven't Voted:* 76
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> Sam Lanfranco
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