Carlos and Paul,
I am just opening up discussion here. In response to Carlos' question, individuals get 1 vote, small organizations get 2 votes, and large organizations get 4 votes. Organizations cannot spread their votes, they are all assigned to a single candidate when a vote is placed. It does mean however that an individual can join NCSG as an individual, and as the representative of an organization. With quick look at the membership spreadsheet I was able to identify at least two of our colleagues who have 5 votes each. [Note: the membership list includes some memberships that should be deleted (through withdrawal, or demise of the individual or the organization) but they cannot and did not vote so no harm on that front]. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1o0n2H5xkTPmon8K8wbFg 0dAZTouHWgkWjcyNsSs_YXw/edit# gid=0
This is why we are working on an improved NCSG/NCUC/NPOC membership management process at the moment.
3. An Individual who is employed by or a member of a non-member noncommercial organization (universities, colleges, large NGOs) can join NCSG in his or her individual capacity if their organization has not already joined the NCSG. The Executive Committee shall, at its discretion, determine limits to the total number of Individual members who can join from any single organization (provided the limit shall apply to all Organizations, of the same size category, equally).
An individual who is a member of or employee of a noncommercial organization, which is itself a member of the NCSG, may apply for, or retain membership, in the NCSG only under the first criteria for individual membership, i.e. be an individual noncommercial registrant. Such membership is subject to Executive Committee review.
In response to Paul's query, again it is just to put issues on the table. Do the representatives of large organizations, with their 4 votes, poll their organizations to see how they should vote? I don't know. Is it better for large organizations to have 4 votes, or to recruit more members (hopefully engaged in NCSG work) to carry more weight? Worth discussing. As it is, any organization (or clique of individuals) could stage a "registration arms race" as you put it. As comment around the election said, NCSG needs more worker bees (Stephanie Perrin's term) and certainly doesn't need registration arms race drones. Not taking a position here. Just asking.
Sam Lanfranco
On 9/7/2016 1:12 PM, Carlos Vera wrote:
Multiple voting rights mean:
1. More than one vote per organization or person?2. More weight for some votes and some ponderation factor?3. Multiple chances to vote the same person or organization with the same ballot?
Some other meaning?Can you please explain?Thank you
Carlos VeraEnviado desde mi smartphone BlackBerry 10.
De: Paul RosenzweigEnviado: miércoles, 7 de septiembre de 2016 12:07Para: [log in to unmask]Responder a: Paul RosenzweigAsunto: Re: Detailed election results
I curious Sam as to why you want to review. Full context, of course, is that I’m part of a large organization. But if you change the rules, I am quite certain I can get more than 4 (many more than 4) individuals from the organization to sign up. And that’s also true, I’m sure of the other organizations, including some of those I often disagree with. The 4N limit is kind of a cap on a registration arms race …
Paul
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Subject: Re: Detailed election results
There was a maximum of 349 votes registered based on 247 ballots counted.
That means that there were 102 “extra votes” from voters with multiple voting rights.
A third or more of the votes cast were based on extra voting rights.
I would hope that the issue of multiple voting rights is also reviewed.
As well, a pointer to where the rules for multiple voting rights are listed,
and how organizational size is determined, and monitored, would be useful.
That would assist the rest of us in developing an informed opinion here.
Is there a location on the ICANN or NCSG websites that discloses who,
representing what organizations, has multiple voting rights?
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Total Ballots Cast (including duplicates): 282
Ballots Counted (excluding duplicates): 247
Voters Who Haven't Voted: 76------------------------------
-------------------------- Sam Lanfranco