Yes, that is exactly what I meant. Thanks Tapani. Joan On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Tapani Tarvainen < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi, > > Obviously Joan meant it's the task of the EC, not that the > EC gets to decide whether or not it follows the charter. > > Of course we will document everything properly, that's > not subject to debate. > > Tapani > > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 04:46:37PM +0200, Amr Elsadr ([log in to unmask]) > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > That’s right James. Documenting the appeal, the EC response, the > appellants response to the EC decision, as well as the > recording/transcripts of the EC call on the subject all need to be publicly > archived on the NCSG wiki. I don’t know of any decision that the EC needs > to make on this. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Amr > > > > > On Sep 1, 2016, at 4:24 PM, James Gannon <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Joan, > > > > > > Just for the record the archiving of the appeal and the related > documentation and resources is mandated by the NCSG Charter and not subject > to an EC decision. > > > > > > All formal discussions related to appeal will be done in a transparent > manner and be both recorded and have transcripts made. All documentation > related to the appeal, including transcript of formal discussions, will be > collected on a public website associated with the NCSG and will be retained > for a minimum of four (4) years. > > > > > > > > > > > > -James > > > > > > > > > From: NCSG-Discuss <[log in to unmask] <mailto: > [log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Joan Kerr <[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > > Reply-To: Joan Kerr <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > > Date: Thursday 1 September 2016 at 14:44 > > > To: "[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask] > SYR.EDU>" <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask] > SYR.EDU>> > > > Subject: Re: By Laws Section 2.4.2.1 Appeal on the election process > (with formatting fixed) > > > > > > Hello Avri, All > > > > > > Thank you for accepting and agreeing to the compromise. Your request > for archiving the material is of course for the EC to decide. > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > Joan > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Joan > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 1:27 AM, avri doria <[log in to unmask] <mailto: > [log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > To the Executive Committee of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group: > > > > > > The appellants of the 2016 Election Process thank you for your prompt > > > action and for your reply. We accept the compromise that has been > offered. > > > > > > At this time, we consider our NCSG Charter 2.4.2.1 Appeal of the 2016 > > > election as closed. In keeping with 2.4.2.1 requirements, we request > > > that this appeal and all relevant material related to the appeal be > > > archived in an appropriate place on the NCSG community wiki pages. > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > 1. Avri Doria - Individual Member > > > 2. James Gannon - Individual Member > > > 3. Tatiana Tropina - Individual Member > > > 4. Farzaneh Badii- Individual Member > > > 5. Stephanie Perrin - Individual Member > > > 6. Robin Gross, IP Justice, Organizational Member > > > 7. Amr Elsadr, Individual Member > > > 8. Ayden Férdeline, Individual Member > > > 9. Niels ten Oever, Article19, Organizational Member > > > 10. William Drake, Individual Member > > > 11. Anriette Esterhuysen, APC, Organizational Member > > > 12. Rachel Pollack Ichou - Individual Member > > > 13. Milton Mueller, Internet Governance Project, Organizational Member > > > 14. Dan Krimm, Individual Member > > > 15. Stefania Milan, Individual Member > > > 16. Monika Zalnieriute, Individual Member > > > 17. David Cake, Electronic Frontiers Australia, Organizational Member > > > 18. Norbert Klein, Open Institute, Organizational Member > > > 19. Michael Oghia, Individual Member > > > 20. Kim von Arx, Individual Member > > > 21. DeeDee Halleck, Deep Dish Network > > > > > > * > > > > > > On 31-Aug-16 12:07, Joan Kerr wrote: > > > > Dear Avri Doria > > > > > > > > On behalf of the NCSG EC's, I am responding to the Letter of Appeal > > > > filed August 23rd, 2016, which is attached and included below. > > > > > > > > Kindly note, I have taken the opportunity copy all the appellants > > > > who are listed in the Letter of Appeal. > > > > > > > > Regards, Joan Kerr on behalf of the NSCG EC > > > > > > > > _NCSG EC Response to Letter of Appeal_ > > > > > > > > Dear Appellants: > > > > > > > > This email is in response to the appeal filed by the group of 21 > > > > members of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group (NCSG) on 23 August > > > > 2016 regarding the decision of the NCSG Executive Committee (EC) to > > > > continue with the ongoing annual election using the existing > > > > ballots. > > > > > > > > *In fact*/the EC did not make such a decision: it was an unilateral > > > > act of the Chair, which the EC did not approve and decided to > > > > override in its emergency meeting on August 24. The Chair, by signing > > > > this letter, accepts his responsibility and the EC's chastisement of > > > > his hasty action./ > > > > > > > > In its meeting the EC discussed the the appeal and considered > > > > possible options in response. In that meeting, the EC decided to > > > > propose a compromise solution to the appellants in lieu of suspending > > > > the ongoing election as requested. > > > > > > > > Specifically, the EC decided to continue with the ongoing annual > > > > election as originally planned, using the existing ballots already > > > > sent to members, but with the understanding that voting > > > > simultaneously for "None of the Above" and one or two candidates for > > > > council is valid, and that every candidate on the ballot faces > > > > possible rejection, which means that those candidates who receive > > > > less votes than "None of the Above" (NOTA) on the ballot shall be > > > > deemed not elected in the election. > > > > > > > > We understand that this compromise is not perfect, however we > > > > believe it is a solution which will allow us to go forward with the > > > > existing election as planned and still satisfy concerns about > > > > representation and confusion on the ballot. > > > > > > > > In the unlikely event that any seats are left unfilled after the > > > > election, the EC will follow the procedures described in the charter > > > > to fill such seats. > > > > > > > > We regret the confusion caused and will endeavour to fix any > > > > remaining concerns before the ballot is sent in next year's annual > > > > election. > > > > > > > > Please indicate at your earliest convenience if this compromise > > > > proposal is acceptable to you and that your appeal is accordingly > > > > > > > > resolved. Thank you. > > > > > > > > Signed, > > > > > > > > Executive Committee of the Non-Commercial Stakeholders Group > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:44 AM, avri doria <[log in to unmask] <mailto: > [log in to unmask]> > > > > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote: > > > > > > > > NCSG colleagues, > > > > > > > > *Pursuant to Section 2.4.2.1 of NCSG’s Charter, the NCSG Members > > > > signed***in the enclosed***hereby initiate an appeal of the NCSG EC > > > > decision to refuse to fix the contested ballots and properly clarify > > > > the election process before proceeding.* > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > Avri Doria > > > > > > > > on behalf of the 21 members who signed the appeal* *** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >